Also, obviously Joe didn't want to give up the power Avery wanted.
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Also, obviously Joe didn't want to give up the power Avery wanted.
i don't think he really would've been giving up any true 'power'. but why should he anyway? how many championship contending teams has avery johnson built?
joe was going to have the final say, regardless. i think there were a number of things they disagreed on, with money being one of them for sure too.
there's no way i'd want to pay avery johnson $20 mil to coach this team. he's simply not that kind of coach IMO.
I don't think Joe fired Curry because Gordon and Villanueva wouldn't sign. I'd assume he was making calls and weighing options. Even if he did, he's already got those guys agreed to terms. Why does he have to panic and hire a coach now? He'd have plenty of time to conduct a full search if he wasn't satisfied with Kuester. No reason to settle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Asberry
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Originally Posted by Zekyl
Vegas Summer League, its VERY important.
Our Coach is Who?
I picked the wrong freakin' time to quit swearing.
Yes, he's better than Curry. But I'm a better Coach than Curry. No way should Joe hire me for 2 years with a 3rd at the team's option and then pay me a couple of mil as well!
I got my pre-game speeches all worked out. Have you seen Any Given Sunday? Pacino? The "Inches" bit? Make it about basketball! That's my pre-game speech, every freakin' night.
I think we hired this dude cause it hurts the Cavs. I think we signed Gordon to hurt the Bulls. I think we signed Charlie to hurt the Bucks (Andrew Bogut...represent boi) and ...
We need a freakin' big man.
Get one of them before you sign some random assistant.
And Kstat - stop being a shill for the Pistons.
All the way back on page 1 you had this exchange with Wilfredo Ledezma.
Wilbur posted:Natural Born Shiller replied:Quote:
I'm not too high on Kuester--apparently he's regarded as an 'offensive' coach, but Cleveland seems to have been one of the most offensively disoriented teams in the league the last few years.
So, um... let's get this straight:Quote:
He wasn't a part of that staff a few years ago. He was brought on in 2007 and given the reigns of total offensive control in 2008.
John Boy wasn't at the Cavs the last few years
He only joined them in 2007. He's been there the last "couple" of years.
Not the last few - just the last couple.
Am I right, Al Shillgton?
BTW, #30 made me lol
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Why Avery Johnson didn't get the job
By VINCE ELLIS • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • July 8, 2009
In less than 48 hours, Avery Johnson went from likely becoming the Pistons' next coach to giving interviews explaining why he will be returning to an analyst's chair at ESPN for a second season.
All signs now point to the Pistons settling on their third choice -- Cavaliers assistant John Kuester -- to replace Michael Curry, who was fired last week after one season.
Which left us to wonder what happened to Johnson.
In an interview on ESPN, Johnson spoke of extensive talks with the Pistons as recently as Sunday, but he declined to say how close the two sides were.
"At the end of the day, we just couldn't make it work, and both sides decided to just go in different directions," Johnson said. "It gave me the opportunity to stay at ESPN ... and it gave them an opportunity to continue to search for a new coach."
But a person with personal knowledge of the situation said that Johnson believed he was going to be the Pistons' next coach after meeting with Joe Dumars, the Pistons' president of basketball operations, in Houston.
In fact, the person said Dumars told Johnson he was his guy.
But with Johnson seeking a four-year deal worth between $4 million and $5 million a season, the two sides couldn't come to an agreement. And the money wasn't the only issue, as the length of the deal also was a bone of contention.
The source said the Pistons offered a two-year deal with an option for a third year -- what Kuester is expected to receive.
The Dallas Mavericks fired Johnson after the 2007-08 season and owe him $8 million over the next two seasons. It is believed that he would forfeit all or most of that money if he took another job. Under the circumstances, Johnson apparently felt it prudent to remain an analyst for ESPN.
It's telling that the length of Kuester's deal is similar to what Johnson was offered. Kuester, although a veteran of two decades on the NBA sidelines, will be a first-time NBA head coach. Johnson, on the other hand, compiled a winning percentage of .735 as coach of the Mavericks and was two victories from an NBA title in 2006.
That part stings.Quote:
Kuester, although a veteran of two decades on the NBA sidelines, will be a first-time NBA head coach. Johnson, on the other hand, compiled a winning percentage of .735 as coach of the Mavericks and was two victories from an NBA title in 2006.
I don't think this is "BREAKING NEWS" anymore.
On the bright side, Kuester has yet to under-develop and cast off a young all-star point guard, and he has yet to get blasted out of the first round once, let alone back-to-back seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
On the dull side, Kuester has yet to show any capability to develop any talent or be a head coach. He has never gotten a team into the playoffs, even if it meant losing in the first round, let alone sniffed taking a team to the finals. His career winning percentage is .000.
I can throw out facts, too. Not saying I'm against the hiring, but you didn't seem to have a problem with Avery Johnson before he left the running.