F.A. SIGNING: Pistons strike deal with Ben Gordon

black D- you're throwing around another allegation with NOTHING to back it up. which again shows you're not here to do anything other than stir shit up.

you 'backed down' from what? an argument that you stirred up for god knows what reason. i just don't like people making false accusations or putting words in my mouth. and i think it's really lame to make statements and then do nothing to back them up. it's weak.

and i'm no kid trust me. but if labeling me as such makes you feel better about yourself, by all means go right ahead. it seems like you could use the boost for your self esteem anyway. the way you've acted out totally unprovoked demonstrates to me that you either didn't get enough titty as a baby or you just like making a spectacle of yourself. you light the fire and then run away when it blows back in your face and wonder what happened.

you don't have the cyber heart....? you simply can't handle a real debate of any sort. you pick a fight and then run away. should change your name to shit stirrer.

Could we keep them both? I've heard or read about maybe having Gordon be a 6th man a la Ginobili.

our new frontcourt of Kwame/Maxiell/Villanueva will scare the shit out of our opponents!

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy

I'd say they're comparably good, and I'd point to:

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

Both have their moments.

Rip can play both wing positions in a pinch and can defend at SG. Gordon is a volume 3P shooter who can't defend at either guard position. It's funny how Rip put up his career averages without an All-Star PG. Rip can actually get open. You can't just put a bigger man on him and turn him into streaky jumpshooter boy (though in Boston's case, their bigger guards kept on fouling him from beyond the 3P line). They're both somewhat turnover prone.

We better get someone good and big for Rip, or else we have another broken situation. I'm not opposed to getting rid of Rip, but Ben Gordon will be a step down come playoff time.

best point brought up yet. no doubt- rip is a much, much better defender. we most certainly will have to put gordon on opponents PGs and try to hide his defensive shortcomings with guys like stuckey. it's a legit concern and it will be interesting to see the final roster and how we account for this weakness.

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Originally Posted by detroitexport

Could we keep them both? I've heard or read about maybe having Gordon be a 6th man a la Ginobili.

given the amount we just paid gordon and more importantly, the way rip handled the 3 guard rotation this past year....i don't see that working. even as a starter i don't think rip will be happy splitting such a role with gordon.

we'll see though. i personally think we need to trade him but let's see what happens.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...tons.signings/

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"Ben agreed to come here knowing he would come off the bench," the source said. "That makes it completely different than Iverson coming here ... Gordon is choosing to come here and play the super sub role."

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Gordon's agent, Ray Brothers, said that 17 teams contacted him Wednesday about Gordon, but most were looking to sign Gordon to the mid-level exception or looking to do a sign-and-trade with Chicago. And after the last two summers of trying to negotiate deals with Chicago, Gordon was leery of yet more delay in trying to work something out down the road when Detroit came through so quickly with a tangible offer.

Nice statements about being a 6th man, but it could easily be all a part of the game. What's he supposed to say, "They promised me the starting job?"

Almost $60 million to be a backup. DA is off his game.

yeah it's POSSIBLE. but doubtful IMO. the thing is, we can't come out and annoint him the starter because then we definitely have a disgruntled hamilton and teams know even more that we need to dump/trade him.

so you can be sure we'll say the right things, while probably seeking to trade rip in the background. if we don't get a good enough deal, we could try and make it work (although i think it would go badly). but at least we'll have covered ourselves.

If that's the crack that the Pistons front office is leaking out, DA's on his game for reporting it while others haven't.

Of course, finding out what the real deal is with possible trades should be interesting and what DA is doing as well. Tayshaun looks to be traded based solely off our draft, but I've seen hide nor hair of Tayshaun trades other than some weird noise about Bosh a couple months ago.