Official Darko Watch

ONE game and Rosen is right on it.

The media are a bunch of punks.

I hate Darko - I'm happy he's gone.

I think Joe made the right trade (Kilo can suck my fuck)

BUT that article is bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

I think Joe made the right trade (Kilo can suck my fuck)

Just to clarify "sucking ones fuck" is what exactly. Is it something to do with a wetspot??

While I fuck your wife/girlfriend you suck her pussy

Understood?

WORST. TRADE. EVER!

I think not.

At 2am I can't even think of 5 trades but Seattle traded Pippen for Polynice looks pretty fucking shit in hindsight.

*shudder*

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

While I fuck your wife/girlfriend you suck her pussy

Understood?

I'm really hoping that I just misread that.

Please?

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Originally Posted by Glenn

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

While I fuck your wife/girlfriend you suck her pussy

Understood?

I'm really hoping that I just misread that.

Please?

Basically a pre-emptive assault on the wetspot...

Blue language at this time of the day/morning is cringe-worthy, though I completely understand the time difference and such.

That visual just seems a little "too close for comfort" with high "man on man" potential.

If nothing else, it certainly would be crowded down there.

Off topic:Glenn thats the best avatar theme and sig you've had in awhile.

Otherwise Darko isnt doing anything to regret losing him.

Don't blame me - blame GWOW

And Kilo can get his share of the blame for claiming the Darko/Arroyo for Cato/pick trade is the Worst Trade Ever.

I call it how I see it.

And when I see Bullshit you know I have to call it

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

While I fuck your wife/girlfriend you suck her pussy

Understood?

WORST. TRADE. EVER!

I think not.

At 2am I can't even think of 5 trades but Seattle traded Pippen for Polynice looks pretty fucking shit in hindsight.

Kareem for 4 scrubs was pretty bad too.

I don't remember, but what did Portland get for JO?

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Originally Posted by WTFchris

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

While I fuck your wife/girlfriend you suck her pussy

Understood?

WORST. TRADE. EVER!

I think not.

At 2am I can't even think of 5 trades but Seattle traded Pippen for Polynice looks pretty fucking shit in hindsight.

Kareem for 4 scrubs was pretty bad too.

I don't remember, but what did Portland get for JO?

Davis

right charlie rosen... any time a sports writer drops 'passive agressive' in his article, you know he's gone to the BS.

i dont know what people want from darko.

what more do you expect from a 20 year old kidd who hasnt played in 2 1/2 seasons?

hes going to be inconsistent.

hes going to make bad decissions.

hes not going to turn a team thats clearly tanking into a playoff team.

the fact that he's put up a few nice games is more than alot of people thought he was capable of.

sometimes i wonder if people look at this as a piston fan or as a critic. because some of these comments just dont make sense.

and how bout two other trades to compare it to:

kwame for caron butler and chucky atkinson.

eddy curry for 2 lottery picks and sweetney.

in my opinion, eddy curry had far more warts than darko (yep), and kwame was only a slightly smaller question mark than darko.

i think both of those trades are way better than what detroit got for darko and its backup pg.

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

the fact that he's put up a few nice games is more than alot of people thought he was capable of.

That is absolutely, positively 100% untrue.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, expected and continues to expect Darko to have some games where he fills up the box score.

Most of the Darko bashers also believe that Darko will have a very, very long career in the NBA, in which he'll have plenty of, as Joe Dumars himself put it "18 point, 10 rebound and 4 block nights".

Where did you get that statement?

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

eddy curry for 2 lottery picks and sweetney.

There you go Kilo.

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

in my opinion, eddy curry had far more warts than darko (yep), and kwame was only a slightly smaller question mark than darko.

i think both of those trades are way better than what detroit got for darko and its backup pg.

The main difference being that curry and brown had enough playing time to at least give potential trading partners some idea what they were in for. The higher level of speculation involved with Darko watered down his value.

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

in my opinion, eddy curry had far more warts than darko (yep), and kwame was only a slightly smaller question mark than darko.

i think both of those trades are way better than what detroit got for darko and its backup pg.

Eddie Curry also possessed FAR greater proof of viable and productive talent than did Darko at the times of their respective trades.

Curry was also persued by an idiot GM.

The Kwame deal is more comparable. If we get a player better than Butler with that pick, we come out ahead of them on the Kwame deal. And Kwame and Curry at least showed they belong in the NBA at some capacity. Darko hasn't shown that yet.

1) (taymelo) i recall paul silas and barkley (irrelivent) saying darko didnt belong in the leauge. i wont name names, but i'm pretty sure some people have said that darko isnt nba material. in orlando, he's putting up numbers to justify him being in the nba. at this point, what more could you expect?

2) (geerussel) both those guys had shown more, but curry in particular, had shown enough to prove that he was as much a problem as he is an answer, and definitly didnt deserve that contract. darko is more of an unknown. but with curry, you know your getting a guy who is a complete fat ass, has no work ethic, only plays on one side of the court (and only 1/2 the time), and has a bum ticker. im convinced darko had more trade value than curry.

3) (chris) isiah might be a lousy gm, but he's not the only lousy gm in basketball. but i agree, the kwame deal is a better comparison. maybe the pick will be better than caron, maybe not. but the fact that washington didnt have to wait 2 years to get him makes that deal alot better, regardless.

i just see this deal looking worse and worse for the pistons, and its only justification is that an old man with all the money in the world didnt think detroit fans deserved to have a team that pays the tax. im 100% confident a better deal was out there.

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

1) (taymelo) i recall paul silas and barkley (irrelivent) saying darko didnt belong in the leauge.

On the day of the trade, I heard Silas say that it was his opinion that Darko would be a career "journeyman", which is not the same thing as saying a guy doesn't belong in the league.

But I agree with most of your other points.

^In the same prodcast Silas made a comment as the program was fading to commercial, something like "Because the kid can't play".

I heard him on XM's simulcast of ESPNNEWS, so I must have missed that part.

Um guys, that was John Thompson, not Paul Silas.

Just to be clear, Silas is definitely whom I am referring to.

Oops, thats right. It was Thompson. Good lookin' out.

definitly going one step too far with this one...

darko/ mcdyess

min 20.4/ 19.9
pts 6.4/ 7.0
rbs 5.1/ 4.6
sh% 561/ 495
blks 2.0/ .49
stls .5/ .49
asts .8/ .9
tos 1.3/ .81

disclaimers:

1) obviously dyess is contributing more to wins for his team.
2) obviously we would not have done as well last year w/o deyss
3) deyss is the better player right now.
4) this is too small a sample to judge darko

BUT

their numbers arent that different, and in all honesty, dyess has not looked that good this year. he NEVER posts up anymore. he probably should be moved this summer, unless his game comes back to him during the playoffs.

they make ~the same money. the biggest difference between darko and dyess (imo) is that one guy is on his way up, one is on his way down.

this year, i'd rather have deyss. next year...?

sorry for not being able to get off this, but right now the only two subjects that interest me involving basketball are darko and the ncaa's.

i have a feeling i'm going to be writing lots of 'what if?' posts till playoffs. it will probably be better for everyone if darko fizzles out.

Darko went scoreless tonight.

The Magic didn't have a game though.

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Originally Posted by SKelly

Darko went scoreless tonight.

The Magic didn't have a game though.

I heard he dominated in practice though.

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Originally Posted by FP22

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Originally Posted by SKelly

Darko went scoreless tonight.

The Magic didn't have a game though.

I heard he dominated in practice though.

[smilie=anxious.gif]

haven't we all.

As to trading McDyess this offseason, consider the following my very sarcastic response:

1. Yeah, because nobody wants a big man who can really play eating up a whopping $4 million off their cap. For $4 million, we should be able to get a 25 year old Shaq.

2. "Dice rarely posts up anymore". Who's fault is that? Dice or Flip? Because everything I've seen, heard and read is its Flip's offense that makes Dice do the pick and pop from 18 feet, instead of parking his butt in the post like last year under Brown. So basically you want to trade him not because he's worse than last year, but because he's doing what his coach tells him to do?

Hell yeah, we don't need that loyalty shit here.

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Originally Posted by Taymelo

As to trading McDyess this offseason, consider the following my very sarcastic response:

1. Yeah, because nobody wants a big man who can really play eating up a whopping $4 million off their cap. For $4 million, we should be able to get a 25 year old Shaq.

2. "Dice rarely posts up anymore". Who's fault is that? Dice or Flip? Because everything I've seen, heard and read is its Flip's offense that makes Dice do the pick and pop from 18 feet, instead of parking his butt in the post like last year under Brown. So basically you want to trade him not because he's worse than last year, but because he's doing what his coach tells him to do?

You couldnt be more right if you tried.
You can rep me in a court room any day (for free)!

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Originally Posted by FP22

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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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Originally Posted by Hoopshype

Darko Milicic: "Now it's up to me"
by Nebojsa Petrovacki / March 8, 2006

Lately, you have given some very harsh statements regarding the situation you had in Detroit. How did you feel right before being traded last month?

Darko Milicic: I don’t know what to say. It was bad, really bad. It was literally a nightmare before I heard that I was traded. That situation really started getting to me mentally this season.

Do you hold any grudges against the Pistons organization?

DM: No, there’s no point in that. But I am disappointed with numerous promises they made – especially before the start of this regular season. I think that I didn’t quite shine during the preseason, but I think I played solid basketball and that I deserved to get some kind of chance at the beginning of the regular season. They basically turned the lights off me after the preseason. No explanation, no nothing…

Isn’t it logical not to play the first two years on a team that went to the NBA Finals twice in a row, especially considering that the two coaches you had in Detroit played a rotation of seven, eight guys at most?

DM: I really don’t want to think about that anymore. That is a past tense for me. I start from the beginning here in Orlando. I just need to get into playing shape as soon as I can and not worry about Detroit anymore.

For the first time in your NBA career, you are playing significant minutes in the fourth quarter. Is that a completely new experience for you?

DM: Yes, it is. It feels so good. It is such a great feeling when you understand that the coach believes in you and that he is giving you a chance to play in the clutch minutes down the stretch. Now it’s up to me. It will take me some time to get back in the shape I once was. Two and a half years of not playing took their toll. My basketball feeling has simply being lost by me not playing. But it’s up to me to get it back with hard work and playing as well as possible.

Do you think it was bad for your career to be drafted by Pistons in 2003?

DM: That’s a tough question. I never got to play in Detroit. I came to the NBA to play… On the other hand, I was extremely happy to be on a team with such great teammates. Every single guy on the team – Joe Dumars, the coaching staff that worked with me – everybody was just great…

What specifically did you lose by not playing in Detroit?

DM: I lost the feeling you can get only by playing. On the other side, I had a precious opportunity to play and practice with all those great players in Detroit. But you lose that orientation on the court – when you should pass, when you should take the shot… As soon as I get that decision process in order, everything is going to be just fine.

Did you already move out completely from Detroit?

DM: Yes! That’s a good thing about NBA, since your new team organizes the move very efficiently. I sold both my houses in Detroit, and I don’t want to leave a single thing that I own over there. I sold all cars other than one Mercedes coupe.

How does life in Orlando look like so far?

DM: It’s OK. Weather sure beats Detroit, but it is a smaller place. Not too much to do on off days. I currently rent a two-bedroom apartment. I will see what will I do after the end of the season.

How was your first conversation with Brian Hill in Orlando?

DM: It was nothing spectacular. He promised me a chance to play, and he said that everything else is up to me. I took it seriously, and I will try to help us win as many games as we can until the end of the season.

Playing on a losing NBA team is also a novelty for you. How does it feel?

DM: It is different than in Detroit, that’s for sure. But we’re young. We sure have potential to be good. We just need to work hard, to be patient. And one day, who knows? We might be a very good team.

What is the atmosphere like, considering the poor results this season for the Magic?

DM: We try to maintain a positive attitude. That is also a little strange for me, coming from Detroit where we practically won every game this season. I think that in two years or so, if we work hard, we can be a very good team.

Where do you think you have most room for improvement in your individual game?

DM: Nothing in particular, really. I just need to work hard. Honestly, I was pleasantly surprised about my conditioning, considering that I didn’t play for such a long time. I didn’t get tired in those games where I played 20-25 minutes. It’s up to the coach to determine what, where and how much I’m going to play.

You've had some very erratic shots from mid-range. Did that surprise you?

DM: Yes, very. During practice, I hit a vast majority of those shots, and it seems that those are the things that I lost by not playing. Everything is different in a competitive game compared to the shots you take while practicing.

Other than you, two more Serbian players were traded in February, Peja Stojakovic to Indiana and Vladimir Radmanovic to the Clippers. Any thoughts on your National Team teammates’ new situation?

DM: I talked to Peja when we played in Indianapolis recently. He told me he was very happy with his new situation. He tells me that he’s happy with the organization and that they have great team chemistry in the Pacers. Regarding Vlade, I was very disappointed when I found out that he is staying at the same L.A. hotel where we stayed when we played the Clippers a week ago. We didn’t meet then, but he is one of those guys that were just cut to make it in the NBA. I mean, his physique, his shot, his strength, height… I think he will be well off in any NBA team.

Did you talk to Peja about rejoining the Serbia-Montenegro National Team this summer for the World Championships in Japan?

DM: We talked very briefly when we met. I think that every single player that is called to the National Team has to play. We all know what we went through as a nation in the last ten years. Wars and poverty took an horrific toll on our people. I think it’s every player’s responsibility to our country to play for the National Team. On the other hand, I know how hard it is to play throughout the year – especially after such a long NBA season. However, I will play, if invited, every year until the end of my career. I will be there. I think that now, after all these bad results we had in the last couple of years, we need to get all the best players and remake those glorious teams from the not-so-distant past, when we were world champions in 1998 and 2002.

You trade McDyess because he doesn't fit the coaches system, just like you traded Arroyo, not because you think he is a bad player, but he wasn't a fit is all. McDyess, like Arroyo, was brought in to fit Larry Browns system.

For better or worse we're going to have to bring in guys that fit Flip Saunders system.

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Originally Posted by Hoopshype

Darko Milicic: "Now it's up to me"
by Nebojsa Petrovacki / March 8, 2006

Lately, you have given some very harsh statements regarding the situation you had in Detroit. How did you feel right before being traded last month?

Darko Milicic: I don’t know what to say. It was bad, really bad. It was literally a nightmare before I heard that I was traded. That situation really started getting to me mentally this season.

Do you hold any grudges against the Pistons organization?

DM: No, there’s no point in that. But I am disappointed with numerous promises they made – especially before the start of this regular season. I think that I didn’t quite shine during the preseason, but I think I played solid basketball and that I deserved to get some kind of chance at the beginning of the regular season. They basically turned the lights off me after the preseason. No explanation, no nothing…

Isn’t it logical not to play the first two years on a team that went to the NBA Finals twice in a row, especially considering that the two coaches you had in Detroit played a rotation of seven, eight guys at most?

DM: I really don’t want to think about that anymore. That is a past tense for me. I start from the beginning here in Orlando. I just need to get into playing shape as soon as I can and not worry about Detroit anymore.

For the first time in your NBA career, you are playing significant minutes in the fourth quarter. Is that a completely new experience for you?

DM: Yes, it is. It feels so good. It is such a great feeling when you understand that the coach believes in you and that he is giving you a chance to play in the clutch minutes down the stretch. Now it’s up to me. It will take me some time to get back in the shape I once was. Two and a half years of not playing took their toll. My basketball feeling has simply being lost by me not playing. But it’s up to me to get it back with hard work and playing as well as possible.

Do you think it was bad for your career to be drafted by Pistons in 2003?

DM: That’s a tough question. I never got to play in Detroit. I came to the NBA to play… On the other hand, I was extremely happy to be on a team with such great teammates. Every single guy on the team – Joe Dumars, the coaching staff that worked with me – everybody was just great

So everyone was great to you but it was literally a nightmare?

Me: "I find your story hard to believe Darko"

Darko: "Really, which part?"

Who wants to hunt some geese?

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Originally Posted by Darko

Darko Milicic: I just need to get into playing shape as soon as I can and not worry about Detroit anymore.

You lazy shitbag! People bought your jersey like crazy here even though
you didn't fuckin play and chant your name while you've been given a shot
(numerous chance) to play for this team and you blew it.
Have fun getting booed in Detroit. You're a fuckin idiot.

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We all know what we went through as a nation in the last ten years. Wars and poverty took an horrific toll on our people.

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME WITH THIS TRASH!!!

As many as 100,000 Albanians were buried in mass graves in Kosova.

And while Serbian troops were leaving Kosova as scheduled their
cease-fire, they were burning houses and shooting people as they left.

They killed children, systematically raped women and destroyed bodies
in pit fires to conceal the evidence. This all happened in Kosova--TO ALBANIANS!

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Originally Posted by Darko

No, there’s no point in that. But I am disappointed with numerous promises they made – especially before the start of this regular season. I think that I didn’t quite shine during the preseason, but I think I played solid basketball and that I deserved to get some kind of chance at the beginning of the regular season. They basically turned the lights off me after the preseason. No explanation, no nothing…

Is this revisionist history?

I thought he played ok in the preseason, got regular season minutes, played HORRIBLE, and THEN they "turned the lights off me".

He seems to conveniently forget the bolded part.

Crowded monkey castle.

LOL

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Where do you think you have most room for improvement in your individual game?

DM: Nothing in particular, really. I just need to work hard. Honestly, I was pleasantly surprised about my conditioning, considering that I didn’t play for such a long time. I didn’t get tired in those games where I played 20-25 minutes. It’s up to the coach to determine what, where and how much I’m going to play.

LMFAO!!!!!

He has forgotten that he got playing time at the beginning of the season and sucked so bad that we had to pull him back out. He goes right from his pre-season games to not playing.