Global Warming

Tahoe do you feel pollution, smoggy skies of cali, and other wastes caused by human civilization have no effect on the planet?

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Originally Posted by WTFchris

It's not a political issue (at least it shouldn't be), but people do form opinions based on their party offiliation.

Not trying to pick a fight here, but some peeps do, hopefully the majority don't. Hopefully some have genuine feelings on issues and find the party/candidates that best reflect their feelings.

When I'm deciding on who to vote for I prioritize the issues then find the candidate that best reflects my feelings at the top of my priority list.

Nothing too earth-shattering there, I just wish peeps would stop letting parties decide how and what to think. Nothing wrong with following either party if that is how you feel, but that to me, is almost weird that someone could go lock-step with either piece of shit parties. Lord I appologize for calling our parties pieces of shit...kind of.

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Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu

Tahoe do you feel pollution, smoggy skies of cali, and other wastes caused by human civilization have no effect on the planet?

Sure, if they go unchecked. Luckily, recycling programs have taken hold big time out here. I build houses. I go to the dump (sometimes) and its pretty amazing the seperation that takes place right at the deliver point. Waste on conveyers, wood to woodchips, paper goes here, plastic there. So we are mitigating our effect.

California has some pretty tough smog requirements. I have to have my cars and trucks smogges every other. For the amount of cars we have here, we do alright. It would be a good thing if the rest of the world buys into this.

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

This article kind of skips across the top....meaning not hard hitting but says enough for me to dig deeper. Then I dig deeper and its partly what UMax said above your post...Scientists work hard to prove things, I'm just admitting I'm not smart enough to decifer point/counter point on this issue or who's bullshiting who? Or maybe they(either side) aren't trying to bullshit, hopefully they truly(sp?) believe what they're saying.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6548

btw the article does accept the earth has warmed, if I read it correctly. So I'm not saying the earth isn't getting warmer, its just the rest of stuff I'm not sure about...did we cause it? How much of it did we cause? is it out of whack? does the Earth have a way of dealing with it? etc...

They way some of that stuff is worded in that article is fishy. Take this part for example:

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Around the world, in Antarctica, for the last few decades, average temperatures across the continent have been going down. Snowfall has increased, resulting in more continental ice. In fact, every modern computer simulation of 21st century climate has Antarctica continuing to accrete ice.

Why say "around the world, in Antartica"? Those are contradictory. Are we talking about the world, or just Antartica? It then says temps on there have gone down. Probably true, but ice melt does not happen there from air temp. the air only reaches a high of 41 degrees F there. Warm water causes the ice melt, not air temps. Snowfall may have increased, but what do they mean by "more ice"? every snowfall creates more ice. But is the net ice still positive or not? the article doesn't say. It could be melting faster than it's forming and the snow still results in "more ice" being formed. I don't know what they meant and what they didn't mean. i do know that in the movie they show sattelite images of the ice and you can see large chunks of the ice breaking off.

"Around the world, in Antartica" LOL that is pretty odd choice of words. Seems like someone would have caught that...and someone just did.

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Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu

Tahoe do you feel pollution, smoggy skies of cali, and other wastes caused by human civilization have no effect on the planet?

Gutz <---sets trap
Tahoe <--- snared

Trip to TerrorDome forthcoming 8 Ball?

Signs point to yes.
Without a doubt.
As I see it, yes.
You may rely on it.
It is decidedly so.
Better not tell you now.
Yes - definitely.
It is certain.
Most likely.
Outlook good.

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

"Around the world, in Antartica" LOL that is pretty odd choice of words. Seems like someone would have caught that...and someone just did.

BTW, other sources have suggested there is more ice mass than before. I'm not sure which side of that is true. I suspect large portions ARE breaking off and the ice mass IS increasing. However, it has been proven that the temps are increasing. The higher temps are resulting in the permafrost line moving closer to the north pole and houses, pipe lines, trees that were once in the permafrost are no longer there. Who knows how much destruction that could have on the forests of Canada if that happens rapidly (don't know if it would or not).

tahoe i hate to break the news to you. but your sky line still looks like dog shit. [smilie=peepwall.gi:

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Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu

tahoe i hate to break the news to you. but your sky line still looks like dog shit. [smilie=peepwall.gi:

No it doesn't. Your's does though.

Truth is I don't know wtf you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

No it doesn't. Your's does though.

Truth is I don't know wtf you're talking about.

then why the mean reply if you dont know? how george bush of you.:mccosky: