rip would be a horrible fit in orlando, both with their style of play and their current roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG BEN'S FRO
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rip would be a horrible fit in orlando, both with their style of play and their current roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG BEN'S FRO
charlie V is only making a bit more than the MLE per year. look at all the garbage players around the league that are being paid $6 mil per year. to get him for $7mil is a lot of cash, but that's not ridiculous in today's market. it's a good deal IMO.
i think some of you are looking at the money and thinking what you would want for that much money....but the reality is that is what players today are being paid.
shit if prince and rip are worth over $9 mil a year, the deals we just signed with these kids are great IMO. cheap? nope. but we did what we had to, to add really good young talent that will help us for a long time moving forward.
Gordon is a chucker and not as clutch as advertised. If we are losing Rip in the process and making Gordon a starter, bad signing imho.
you can't say that until you see what rip might bring back.
You're pulling stats on the wrong guy. He's only Kstat by name, overall his likes and dislikes rule over stats. He likes Gordon more than Rip, so Grdon is more clutch now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
gordon is a much better go-to guy than rip. who would you rather handling the ball with the clock ticking down late in a game, rip or gordon? if you say rip, i'm sorry but you're just being a homer.
i love rip and he's done an incredible amount in detroit. but he can't handle the ball to save his life and he can't create his own shot for nothin'. this is a new nba and rip isn't old but he's no spring chicken either.
gordon's game is much more suited to what this team needs moving forward than rip's.
I wasn't the one who brought up his "clutch" play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma
Kstat, apologies -- wasn't clear to me who you were talking about.
On Charlie V, we seem to agree.
You're overestimatinghis trade value while downing him in comparison to Gordon? That's a unrealistic line to walk. We are not getting an elite Big, so I can say that based on that because that's what I'd ant in exchange for swapping out the most efficient SG in the league for the league's streakiest chucker and possibly losing more on defense than we gain on offense imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higherwarrior
I am looking at the money. With some many teams looking to unload players and with so few teams with available cap space, I was expecting us to get deals. I guess that I'm not thrilled with paying market price when we were position to benfit greatly?? Should I be happy with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Higherwarrior
sure i can. because his style of play not meshing with what we want to do moving forward does not directly affect his trade value. if he doesn't fit into what we want to do, it doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be a great fit for someone else.
besides- a lot of things have to be considered in a trade. it's not just strictly talent for talent. anybody who knows anything knows that. he has a reasonable deal and there are teams who have contracts (AKA 'players') they would like to unload. brand or kaman are perfect examples of this.
based on talent, a 1 for 1 trade would be unfair. but if they're looking to dump a longterm deal then a guy like rip- even with his recent extension- becomes a more attractive player.
a player's trade value is a lot more about their contract and its value and not just strictly their talent.