Look what you've done to yargs Glenn. This whole thread should be in green.
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Look what you've done to yargs Glenn. This whole thread should be in green.
Glenn's reaction to yargs' post:
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How many of those guys that you mentioned were signed by the Pistons to come in and score off the bench?
Like it or not, that's what Murray is paid to do. It's the same reason that Jarvis' is high as well.
I do indeed have higher hopes for Stuckey, but I'm still afraid that we've been sold a bill of goods with all the hype, based on what I've seen.
Also, it was repeatedly stated by the organization (and their mouthpieces) that Stuckey is indeed a PG, and that he played it extensively in college. So we can't have it both ways, either we were misled/lied to, or he's not playing the PG position for the first time.
David Thorpe's Rookie Ratings, just revised
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...3dNBAHeadlines
Afflalo is at #20, and Stuckey at #25.Quote:
Like most rookies, Rodney Stuckey has to learn what a good shot is. And isn't. Step-back jumpers with 10 seconds on the shot clock on your first offensive possession in the game? That is the definition of a bad shot.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/rookies/rankings?
Comparison I'm surprised I've not heard anyone try to make yet:
Stuckey is Lindsey Hunter to Aaron Afflalo's Allan Houston.
probably because they're both terrible comparisons.
Those players couldn't be any more different.
A capable scorer and solid passer off the bench is a big enough deal since we've never had that filling in for billups. Not a major deal though.Quote:
I'm not seeing the big deal about him, personally.
#1)A consistently solid player would be nice. I remember thinking the same thing about billups before he got here.Quote:
Seems like he could be a solid player, but his jumper looks broke, he turns it over a bunch, and he gets about half of his shots swatted when he takes it at the rim.
#2.)His jumper looked fine in most games before last game. Of course last game he removed the pads on his hand and it seems to have had an effect on his shot. Might have to get back adjusted to playing w/o it now.
#3) The swats have cut down over the past few games and he's being a little more creative as he was in the Raptor game avoiding Bosh's shot block attempt for a 3 point play.. I remember Wade hand to pull up for mid range jumpers in his first year because he was in danger of getting swatted more himself. Then he learned the lean sideways fall down courageous victory move. Stuckey will also have to adjust. Its not like with Flap[smilie=heatsmiley2: Murray who actually believes he won't get swatted and has no desire to improve his shot chances.
I think he's probably a future star. Please remove the super though. The Jury is also still out though. He has adjustments to make. One thing on his side is that both Flip Saunders and Joe Dumars love him(that doesnt happen much for our bench guys), so he will get some real development chances I think. I mean have you ever heard about Flip clearing minutes for any young bench player to get acclimated?Quote:
And yes, I know that he's a rookie and rookies make mistakes.
I'm wondering if you guys are sold, not sold or if the jury is still out on Stuckey.
Is he a future SUPERSTAR, as we have been promised ~who promised this nonsense??
Not true but i agree with everything else. Stuckey is a PG, he passes like one two. The issue is becoming a true NBA PG. Same was the issue for Billups coming into the league. .Quote:
Originally Posted by yargs
I'm sold. I don't remember ever being promised a superstar. He can be a success well short of that.
For a rookie that's had what, two practices with the team? Less than 20 games? I think he's showing a lot of poise out there. There are just things he's going to have to learn on the job and watching him get called for a lot of fouls and getting his drives crushed by the defense will just be part of the learning curve.
Flip and Joe certainly seem to be committed to doing everything possible to develop him. Regular playing time, more time with the starters. The kid has got as good an attitude as you could hope for and showed some mental fortitude in the way he handled the injury situation.
If he stays healthy, I think that by april he'll be a better option than Flip M.