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Have you finalized the sale of your house, car, and porn stash yet to continue your cling-on Darko expedition? Just move to Orlando already. You'd think there would be more important and passionate issues to you like world peace and onionbooties. [smilie=alpaca.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy
Darko put up some really solid numbers, but managed to foul out in 26 minutes of play.
BDiddy and Kilo:
If I can be a Darko basher who is capable of acknowledging that he's a damn good shot blocker - without making excuses for why he's a damn good shot blocker, why can't you be a Darko supporter who is capable of acknowledging that he's a damn crappy rebounder - without making excuses for why he's a damn crappy rebounder?
Perhaps it has nothing to do with his first 3 years in Detroit.
Perhaps it has nothing to do with conditioning.
Perhaps he's just not a very good rebounder.
Not every tall player is even an average rebounder, let alone a good one. Many tall players are downright crappy at it.
Perhaps he's a tall guy who will always suck at rebounding, ala Cliff Robinson?
Or will it always be Larry Brown's fault when he's beat out for a board for the rest of his career?
Why would you have to make excuses why he is a good shot blocker?? Because he's 7'1" with freakishly long arms?? Because he looks to block every shot, leaving him out of position to grab a rebound?? That he jumps to swat everyshot and picks up needless fouls??
Could it be that his coach tells him his role is to go for the block and Howard and Ariza will clean up the boards??
I do agree that some guys just have a natural knack for rebounding, but I also believe that Milicic will improve his rebounding with playing time as he gets a feel for playing.
Milicic is averaging 4.4 boards in 20mpg - not anything to write home about, but not putrid either - especially if that's not his role.
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Originally Posted by Rorschach
unlike what it may appear, i dont have an agenda. i'm not a 'darko supporter'. i never said when he was a piston (or since he's been with the magic) that he would make it or wouldnt.
i've merely said that we gave up on him way too early, and that the trade sucked for us.
since he's gotten to orlando, i think his play has been great for what the expectations should have been.
i dont see the point of harboring on the negative with darko. he doesnt rebound particularly well (yet), he probably doesnt rotate on defense like he should (yet). he probably doesnt do alot of things as well as you would like (yet). but in 25 games he'll have played as many minutes for the magic as he played for detroit in 3 years. thats what pisses me off.
i think people underestimate how important a #2 pick can be. in piston history, i think we've had 2 #2 picks (bing and zeke) and a #3 pick (hill), and then we had darko. if detroit didnt want to develop darko (thats what it boils down to), joe should have traded him a while ago, and for something more than what probably will end up being a mid first rounder.
the whole situation is a joke. people say joe was in a no win situation, but thats not what it was 3 years ago. he fucked up big time, and if joe wasnt so good in other areas, i'd say he deserves to be fired.
And bush has no agenda in Iraq. [smilie=applause.gi:Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy
newsflash B-diddy. His lazy ass gave up on us. When you get that part of the equation then you'd stop with all the agenda. And the agenda to try to make it look like we missed out is darko supporter/dreamer/fan club all the way. We didnt miss shit. He tanked out to get traded. His mind was made up, and it wasnt worth kissing his ass in hopes that he stayed.
There is no "we missed out". If darko woulda played like he wanted to be here and not thrown a "i'm not going to try anymore because this aint enough minutes" tantrum. We woulda kept him inspite of any naysayers.
In the end Darko=Bitchmade and i'm glad to see his bratty elementary school ass go. i dont regret people being gone that don't wanna be here at all*see nightmare*, nor do i think of regret when they are posting role player at best stats on a team that can't hold a candle to us. Orlando's success=jameer nelson taking over at the point along with arroyo, dwight howards amazing abilities that dwarf darkheads, and stevey francise's ballhogging ass out of the mix. if you took stevie franchise and stephon marbury and replaced them with 2 prototypical pg willing to get everyone involved, the knicks would win more games for sure. I dont think i've seen either guy make a team better.
no surprise, theres no reasoning with you.
not if the reasoning involves we gave up on darko or we should regret dumping him. neither one of those are true. you dont regret dumping people that wanted to leave and you can't give up on a player that already gave up on trying to be a part of this team via lazy ass tanking it out purposely.Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy
Call me crazy, but i prefer players like Delfino who bust their asses on the court even when their minutes have jumped up and down. Instead of guys who tank you into trading them in the same situation(i.e. darko).
well, i'll stop mentioning every time darko has a good game, but i will mention that theres a decent chance our first round matchup is going to be darko milicic and the magic. 8-3 in the last 11 games, with philly sinking like a stone and no one else exactly making a run at it.
with just 11 games left, chances are they wont make it.
throughout every sport, the best way for a player to break out has been for him to get an opportunity to prove himself without having to constantly look over his shoulder. our very own chauncy billups is a prime example of this. we very well could be seeing milicic do the same, too bad its with another team.