The Spurs are idiots. They replaced David Robinson with Rasho. They traded for Mohammed.
Now they want JP. Well, let them have him. I'll try my luck with Kelvin Cato and someone not named Delfino who can back up Rip and Tay for the MLE.
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The Spurs are idiots. They replaced David Robinson with Rasho. They traded for Mohammed.
Now they want JP. Well, let them have him. I'll try my luck with Kelvin Cato and someone not named Delfino who can back up Rip and Tay for the MLE.
Gracias but PapSmear was a little overboard. Reckon I will just stick with Urkel next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Joel Przybilla is one of the best defensive centers in the league. He's not Ben Wallace, but we're not getting another one of those. Most of you people who seem to have some kind of grudge against him and he's not even a Piston yet. I agree that we still need a good inside scoring presence but Przybilla is not 'scrubilicious'. He'll block shots, clog lanes, rebound the ball, and can finish when he's open. That's all we need from him.
Could Ben switch on LeBron? Yeah. Could Ben guard LeBron? No. So what's your point?
Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade
And your right about Pryz BUT is he worth getting over Bonzi, the slasher/shooter/bench player we need? That's up to Flip and Joe.
Thats just it - Pryzbilla isnt Ben Wallace, kstat - stop trying to say he is. Sure, he might turn out good, but at this stage its just unknown so theres no point in arguing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cross
ATM Pryz is what we need. We have no starting centre, and we need one of them before we go around upgrading the bench.
Big Z makes 250-300% more than the MLE in Cleveland. Yao makes even more than that. If we can get a decent 7'1 center like JP for the midlevel, its a steal.
Having said that, I'd probably rather have Bonzi, if I had to choose between the two, because they could use Dice/Davis/Max to fill Ben's role, but they still have no slasher/backup 3.
I don't see what the f$%king problem is with getting Pryzbilla. Any starting NBA center who can defend well and block shots is easily worth the MLE. It's the weakest position in the league. If he doesn't really work out we should easily be able to trade him. I say sign him and see what happens. I would rather have Bonzi but I just don't see him coming here for the MLE.
pryz is worth the mle. not a good alternative, but the best of whats left.
but hes not coming here.
why would he come to detroit over the spurs? same money, better chance to win with the spurs... spurs!
Blazers Leaders in EFF/Min (league average = .441)
Player EPM Rank
Joel Przybilla 0.482 # 88
Zach Randolph 0.465 # 106
Theo Ratliff 0.403 # 177
Steve Blake 0.389 # 201
Viktor Khryapa 0.386 # 207
Brian Skinner 0.386 # 208
Travis Outlaw 0.372 # 232
Juan Dixon 0.369 # 239
Jarrett Jack 0.360 # 250
Sebastian Telfair 0.348 # 267
Darius Miles 0.345 # 270
Martell Webster 0.320 # 290
With just one player, Joel Przybilla, in the Top 100 in EPM, the Blazers might be the league’s most inefficient team, which would explain why they were the worst team in the league last season.
Anyone think Priz will be just a tad bit better playing with Billups. Tayshaun, Dice, Sheed and Rip. He was very efficent playing on a terrible team.
If he signs with us, he will be playing with 3 All Stars and Tayshaun. I see only positive things when it comes to Priz. If we can lock him upo for 5 years and only pay him 31 million, I would be very happy. One thing Joe D has shown is that he can lock up young bubble guys, upside guys with long term MLE contracts .....and they usually pan out.
Lock up Priz for 6 and he will be a Piston through until he's 31. I like that....it would help combat the Darko clusterfuck. Priz works, blocks shots and want to win. I hpe we get him.
Joel Pryzbilla? I remember him in Minnesota, unfortunately. Ugh.
This reminds me too much of Detroit losing Allan Houston to New York (sensing a free agency theme here? Houston, Hill, Wallace...) and Doug Collins immediately trading for Stacey Augmon and Grant Long as damage control. Not only did that move completely backfire, it allowed Atlanta to cross us off as contenders for their free agent center Dikembe Mutombo. We doubly shot ourselves in the foot.
I don't think Pryzbilla is the way to go. I think adding Wells would help. But as far as bigs go, we need to come up with someone else or use what we've got. Don't just add someone for the sake of it.
Priz played for the Gophers 6 years ago. Big men take longer to develop. If we can lock up him for 6 years he will be a key piece to our reloading. He is not Ben Wallace, but name me a better young Big man that we can get for this cheap?Quote:
Originally Posted by OUGrizz11PG
I guess a lot of people haven't seen przy play over the last 2 years....he's not anything like he was earlier in his career.
I know the fan club won't like this one, but I don't see a big difference between Pryz and Darko, other than we know Pryz is more mature and isn't a quitter.
unfortunately darko is quicker, a much better shooter, but not as smart on defense. otherwise no theres not much difference besides Darko's bigger upside and the possibility that pryz is already at his peak.[smilie=grumble.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Przy has some potential left as well.
Not as much potential as Darko obviously, but this kid could still get a lot better. His game is still developing.
i doubt it. theres not much proof of that at all. if you have some, you're welcomed to share it.(and no i'm not actually being sarcastic this time)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Darko being a better shooter is certainly debatable.
Not saying Pryz' shooting is a +, but he'll give you almost he same results at a lower price tag. Just wait and compare their production/salary ratios next year if they play equal minutes.
you wont like the results Glenn. And this is coming from a guy who thinks darko is an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Darko isn't a better shooter (at least not yet). Another thing Przybilla does better than Milcic is get to the line. He may not be much of a sniper from there, but getting there is about as important as making them.
We're comparing Pryz and Darko' shooting ability? Seriously? Sorry fellas, I missed the games where JP was hitting 18 footers...even one.
Why exactly would we need a 7'1" center to shoot 18-footers? Yeah, I'm sure the Pistons could use another long distance jumpshooter. He's better inside, which is exactly what we need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varsity
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thats a fair argument. but he's not a better shooter than darko. you kinda write off darko's jumpshot. but its light years better than any jump shot from any distance by przybilla. But Prz is a better rebounder and defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade
I'm not writing it off, but we don't need another jumpshooter. We already got a big jumpshooter in Sheed, and he's better than both of them. When it comes to the inside game, Przy is currently ahead of Milicic (no doubt due in part to his lack of playing time and age) and that's what we need. Joel's not a good jumpshooter, but we don't need him to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu
Ok i feel where you're coming from. But you said this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade
I disagreed with that. But i agree Joel is a more consistent inside player(though nothing to fear at all). Though Darko could've developed that part of his game further. Can't agree that another jump shooter kills us at that position.Quote:
Darko isn't a better shooter (at least not yet).
either way Darkface quit and is gone by his own choice more than Joe's. Right now we have shitty options that all involve hoping something/someone turns out better than expected. the offseason sucks.
Well this is all moot, Nazr has agreed to sign with the Pistons.
so from a guy that I could live with...to a hopeless nobody that brings absolutely zero to the table. I'd almost rather be in the fucking lotto...got damn.
I don't know about that Gutz. The last thing we need is another guy hanging out near the 3-point-line. We'd literally have nobody within 8 feet of the net. Our offensive rebounding would evaporate, and it was one of our strengths last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu
now we have Nazr. Now that'll kill us. but he'll get some rebounds though. think taller otis thorpe without the offense.[smilie=sayitaintso:Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade
I'm with you on that brother. [smilie=dissed.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu
Pryzbilla will reportedly re-sign with Portland.
so unlike ben he's staying loyal for probally slightly less dough?[smilie=rofl.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by giffman
He gets paid more in Portland. About 1.25 million more over the life of the contract, if the MLE is 5 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilo
well thats even better. Portland showing us how to overpay "the right way" when you want to keep a player.Quote:
Originally Posted by shags
Przybilla>>>>>>>Nazr.
This fucking sucks. Joel was well worth the MLE, but not Nazr.
He's a decent offensive center, but not half the terror Joel is on defense.
be careful what find yourself satisfied with. you hate ben? well now you get to see him demolish his favorite bitch. You may even see the bulls challenge for the nba title. enjoy the sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Don't root too hard now....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu
for what? you wore that comeback out 5+ pages ago. the truth is that nazr is Ben's bitch and the bulls are a big favorite to challenge miami in the east. If spewing out weak rehashed replies like a robot is all you have to say. Then you must be speechless. Well speechless as far as useful replies are concerned. [smilie=reporter.gi: Next time get a reading comprehension skills. YOU hated Ben. I hate the situation. But if you're going to try the Mccarthy excuse of calling everyone traitors for pointing out how backwards this is. You're gonna have a long day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
It' not that, it's the fact you seem to be gloating about it.
And thats why you should never ever trust your ability to assume and/or interpret anything properly. You even go as far as to call your assumption a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Why do you fuckers have to bitch and moan in every fucking thread?
Can't you just SHUT THE FUCK UP every once in a while?