That would be entertaining to see.
It always was a dream for and1 players to make the NBA. unfortunately, only 1 has made it.
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That would be entertaining to see.
It always was a dream for and1 players to make the NBA. unfortunately, only 1 has made it.
Jumaine Jones
Flip Murray (longshot)
Demarr Johnson
Greg Buckner
David Wesley
Deshawn Stevenson
Nick Van Exel
That's pretty much the list of non-big name unrestricted FA SG/SFs.
Deshawn Stevenson would be the ideal fit for the BAE. He can slash, which is something the others can't do.
DeShawn is suppose to resign with the Magic.
I always thought he was an athletic player along with Demarr.
If Deshawn re-signs go after Ariza even though he is restricted. I mean the Magic would have Hedo, Redick, Hill (cough cough or lol), Deshawn and Dooling for the 2/3 spot, even w/o Hill there is a log jam, if they want to match then we trade a future second with TE and keep the BAE. There are options not all appealing but if people did some thinking they would see the situation is bad but not dire.
Yeah like Fred Jones..OMG YEAH!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
They wouldnt trade S. Jackson..that was the trade the made originally
Danny Granger is untouchable in this instance
No Tinsley either because they are set with Salim Stoudemire and Speedy. Maybe a big like Foster butId take Cato over Foster:)
$1,000,000?
WTF?
The Bi-Annual Exception has a starting salary of $1,800,000.
Big fucking difference.
It's more than the veteran's minimum ($1,100,000 last season), which could allow us to grab a guy that other teams want for the minimum.
Like Jumaine Jones or David Wesley.
I'd rather just trade Dale Davis and a future first (NOT 2007 and certainly Lotto protected for a while) to Phoenix for James Jones.
They're really getting fucked by the tax, so they might be willing to take Dale's expiring deal.
After the trade we re-sign Cato for a year to the minimum or use the BAE and suffer with him for 2 seasons as the insurance big man.
didn't Cato want 8 mil per season for 5 years or sth ? :lol:
i like the James Jones idea
I don't know why we didn't just pay Cato as opposed to Mohammed.
Mohammed is more athletic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
We can still trade Cato, because we've got his bird rights, so we wanted the trading chip?
Though it would seem to make more sense to play him at C, and add someone with the MLE, IDK.
Maybe he sucks for chemistry and they want to ship him out?
See: "garbage, fat"Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
If we decide we want to go the superstar foul-magnet route... Rip/Dice for AI. :nods:
If we aren't looking to get Al Harrington, a very solid other option for us would be Chris Wilcox. Of course, we should have waited before getting Nazr so we could use the MLE on someone else, but Wilcox is a capable big, and is pretty cheap with a great upside. The sonics offered less than 6 years and 42 mill, and are now exploring a S&T. I think we could definitely oblige them with Dale, our trade exemption, Maxiell, and a future first rounder with lotto protection (not in 07). The other great thing about this is that we wouldn't have to bring back Dice next season. I personally love this deal. If you want a little more evidence of what he can do, look at how he played with the Clips when Brand was out.
Wilcox is only 24, wouldn't be forced to start this season, and is athletic has hell. Seattle would get an expiring deal, a trade exemption, Maxiell, and a future first rounder.
i honestly have seen almost nothing of wilcox, but he sounds good to me.
Wilcox=lots of talent, lazy bum. Legendary bad practice habits.
He strikes me as a guy that is after the cash and could care less about winning.
What's the deal with Ronald "Flip" Murray? Some speculation he's the one the Pistons are seriously looking at?
Like they need another shooter.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...129/SPORTS0104
Flips been known as a horrible shooter. Well inconsistent is the better word.
He is a slasher and can finish. He obviously couldnt play in Cleveland so might as well give Flip a chance for the LLE.
We need another shooter like we need more bulls fans.
unfortunately he isnt that great a finisher and has that carlos arryo tendency to force it up into the defenders hands. [smilie=grumble.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Cross
He's a very good finisher. Not great, but very good.
Brevin Knight to Detroit?
Quote:
The Pistons have narrowed their search for another wing scorer to three candidates -- Cleveland's Flip Murray , and former Pistons Chucky Atkins and Tony Delk . The Pistons are offering their bi-annual exception, which is a two-year deal worth $3.5 million.
In the event that all three options fall through, the Pistons also are contemplating acquiring Bobcats veteran point guard Brevin Knight . The Pistons likely would offer Dale Davis in a trade. Both players are in the final year of their contracts.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...607100407/1127
Dale and our 1st rounder would definately get a deal done. They don't need Brevin.
trade for Brevin and sign Flip, and I'm happy with our team.
Flip can't play D. I'd much rather use the BAE on Delk.
the whole suns team couldnt play defense for shit, they did well. I think having one bench player who doesnt play D would be alright:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
we need Flip's scoring mroe than we need defense off the bench, which knight would provide anyway.
Bottom line: Flip would cause more problems for the other guy trying to stop him. He's a tough player when used correctly, which the cavs didn't.
With the loss of Ben's helpside D, I think we need Knight's ability to avoid being beaten off the dribble than we need Delk's 3 pointers.
EDIT: In other words, I completely disagree with Kstat (... so I know my opinion must be popular around here).
i'd take both...Dale for Knight and sign Delk with the BAE...Knight would be a steal, he's still a starting caliber PG, so Chauncey could spend some time at the 2, and Delk played very well, comes in shots high% when giving minutes, and he can defend some unlike Flip...
So at 1, we could potentially have Delk hunter Billups and blalock/ackerQuote:
Originally Posted by Joe Asberry
Like I mentioned earlier, we really need a swingman who can play 2 and 3. Flip can play the 3 and clearly back up Tay while Delfino could back up Rip
if we could grab a SF like Jumaine Jones or Rasual Butler with the BAE i would prefer that too, but i doubt it...regardless of what happens with the BAE, getting Knight would be huge...are you sure Flip can play the 3? isnt he sth like 6-3 only?
Davis and a 2nd for Knight.
Sign Rasual Butler with the BAE.
That leaves us short on bigs, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by detroitsportscity
Very thin.
If we dealt Davis for Knight we could always re-sign Cato using his Bird Rights.
Give him a 3-year deal, with a team option after the first season. IF that option is picked up the third season also becomes guaranteed.
(Basically, the same contract Joe gave Zeljiko Rebraca when we signed him)
OR give Cato the kind of contract Philly gave Amal McCaskill back when we traded Corliss. McCaskill got a 3-year deal, but only the first season was guaranteed.
The 5th big is around for insurance and only insurance IMO. As it stands right now we are planning on using Sheed, Dice and Nazr as the 3 main guys, with Maxiell getting whatever minutes are left.
No point having a valuable expiring contract on the books when it's obvious we need other pieces. Knight would bring a huge boost to the bench and could certainly make the guys around him better.
We'd still have a problem on the wings though, unless you believe that Delfino can handle SF and SG all season.
Of course, you might believe that Amir and Acker could cover the bases if Delfino got hurt.
Then either resign Cato, or S+T Cato for some other big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Nazr is a foul machine. I think we need to keep either Dale or Cato around, and I'd prefer Dale.
Maybe we could get Francisisco Elson?
I doubt it but he'd be a big that probably wont ask for much
Elson, Evans, Butler, and Ely are the bigs with (any) talent left, that we could get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cross
Ely, Elson, and Butler are restricted though, I believe.
We could probably get elson or Evans from Denver, doubt they'll resign both of them
I wouldn't be surprised if Denver lost both.
The Nugs have Camby, Nene and K-Mart on the books and all have massive salaries. I doubt any team is dreaming about taking Martin off their hands, so that likely leaves Elson and Reggie out in the cold.
I doubt we could get either for the BAE though, because at that price Denver should match on Elson and I ould imagine Reggie could get a better offer elsewhere.
If Lindsey Hunter can get $2mil+ why can't Reggie Evans?
I would love to see Evans come for the BAE. Helluva a lot better than either DD or Cato. It won't happen though.
Is Reggie Evans even worth looking at though?
Isn't Maxiell basically going to play that role?
I'd hate to see us sign a guy and roadblock Mad Max.
Much rather we signed a PG with the BAE.
David Wesley is probably one "name" that could be mentioned for the BAE, though I don't know how well he played last season for the Rockets.