Love him or hate him, Michael Moore makes some good points...

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Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma

The notion that America should care about Detroit's failed auto-industry is a joke.

We've been in this 'recession' longer then they all have, and I'm sure we'll be the last to surface from it.

Why should we make our problems, theirs? Nobody outside of the midwest cares about 'Buying American', and they shouldn't have to.

Nobody wants to buy those stupid compact 'fuel-efficient' cars, regardless of how many miles they get. How the government hasn't figured that out yet, is absolutely amazing. And yet we're supposed to believe the Chevy Volt and low-energy high-speed trains are the answer to all our blue-collar problems. Please...

Detroit's on its own.

This won't get people to do shit. Because it's so fucking easy to just "switch" to 'energy saving cars', right? All those people who drive Suburbans or F-350's are going to have an easy time just flipping their car into 'energy saving' because the imposed gas tax will make it SOOOO easy to sell your gas guzzlers?

This is why nobody listens to Michael Moore. He's a fucking porker who profits from looking at everything with a 'glass-half empty' mentality.

Well, an opinion that almost sounds as if it's your own!

I agree Detroit is on its own. But your take that Americans shouldn't have to care about buying American , that they shouldn't care about Detroit or American auto workers is a bit shabby. I think it can be countered with "Why the fuck should we care about Iraq or Afghanistan and their gubmints?"--well, those problems affect ALL Americans, right? So does Detroit. Over 200,000 jobs lost in the auto industry (and MORE to come) means quite a hit on the American economy---so here's the question: buy American, or watch your tax dollars go to feed them while they are unemployment? And it hasn't just happened to the auto industry. Hell, YOU come on here complaining about not being able to find a job or having your last one eliminated--well, fuck you too!
And as for Americans not "wanting" "stupid" fuel efficient or small cars, well--then pay the 95.00 to fill up your tank and shut the fuck up! Don't go telling the gubmint to reduce our dependency on foreign oil without doing what you can to reduce YOUR dependency on foreign oil. It's called having a "World View" and understanding that big gas guzzlers, while buying one for your fat ass wife may get you that once-per-year blowjob, are impractical, stupid, and wasteful--and yeah, they DO harm the environment.
From a practical sense, light rail trains and new fuel efficient cars mean something else: JOBS, dickhead! What part of "If we build them, people will have money in their pocket to spend because they'll be working" doesn't make sense?
And what part of it IS about time we do something a bit radical to work on a problem BEFORE it becomes a disaster doesn't make sense? Sheesh, the poor American, who will have to consider going to work or soccer practice by taking mass transit instead of loading up their gargantuan penis-on-wheels to get their lazy asses to their desk or their screaming fucking kids to a place where they can yell at some poor shlep who doesn't understand that this little worthless bastard is the second coming of Pele or Ted Wiliams.

Suggesting the government imposes a new tax on gas SIMPLY to discourage people from driving non-fuel-efficient vehicles? What the fuck is that?

That's not a 'solution'. It's more like liberal ultimatum if you ask me.

Why don't we tax junk food while we're at it so it will discourage people from purchasing it so they won't get fat.

There's no limits or boundaries to these types of flawed theorys. It just all leads towards a soft-tyranny. Government never fixed anything.

And do you seriously think any of the Big 3 would REALLY benefit from the government putting a new tax on gasoline? You can't be that naive, Zip.

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Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma

Why don't we tax junk food while we're at it so it will discourage people from purchasing it so they won't get fat.

We soon will.

Libs do want to regulate and control our way of life.

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Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma

Government never fixed anything.

thats sounds rather dogmatic. care to back that up? i mean, just for example, can you imagine how far back the medicine field would be without the government? how far back the US economy would be without government highways? how f'd we'd been if there was no government to conscript an army to boot out the brits in 1812? im kind of thinking your claim is rather unsubstantiated...

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And do you seriously think any of the Big 3 would REALLY benefit from the government putting a new tax on gasoline? You can't be that naive, Zip.

the big 3 dug their own grave fighting every regulation that mightve saved them in the long run.

detroit is a prime example of how crippling an overbearing government can be, but the current economic crisis is a perfect counterargument on how devastating an unrestrained freemarket can be.

moore's arguments are practically questionable, but there needs to be consideration to something BIG happening, like energy independence. that aint happening without the gov, even if people like you or her think its a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

Libs do want to regulate and control our way of life.

Shit, talk about dogmatic. Any other broken record chants for the night before you get drunk (or even after you get drunk)?

It might be a broken record but its true.

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

It might be a broken record but its true.

Based on what?

How much and what kind of fuckin sugar...has seemed to be important to Mr T.

China can buy and drive any kind of cars and trucks they want, but we won't be able to if dipshit gets his way.

Oh and Nanci was great today with the Chinese dude. Talks all her shit about global something or other no courage to stand up to anyone. Just have some tea.

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

How much and what kind of fuckin sugar...has seemed to be important to Mr T.

China can buy and drive any kind of cars and trucks they want, but we won't be able to if dipshit gets his way.

Oh and Nanci was great today with the Chinese dude. Talks all her shit about global something or other no courage to stand up to anyone. Just have some tea.

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