Flip's motivation for bench development (THREAD NOW RE-NAMED!!)

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Originally Posted by Kstat

He tore ben gordon a new asshole in the playoff 3 years ago, when ben gordon was the 6th man of the year, and he actually played BETTER against Miami in round 2.

If you think Dixon is the same as flip murray, I question exactly how much you know about the game of basketball. Dixon is a playoff performer.

He is just another shoot-first combo guard without the size to guard legit shooting guards, who likes to chuck up low percentage jumpshots ala Tony Delk, Flip Murray, Mike James, etc. They are very comparable.

As for him "lighting up Ben Gordon" (this is like mentioning Flip Murray lighting up Steve Nash...). He had 35 points in one game, and shot 13 of 49 in the other 5 games of the series (that's 26% for those keeping score). He is what he is. A very streaky shooter who can't run an offense, and can't guard 2-guards. He'll win you 1 game, and shoot you out of 5 others.

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Juan is a fine scorer, passer, ballhandler and defender. All flip did was hog the fucking ball for 20 seconds.

It took Dixon 1 week to take Afflalo's job from him. Flip was on the inactive list for 4 months.

Because Flip Saunders has a boner for every new chucker with a streaky jumpshot just like you. He doesn't give a damn about a guy that plays unselfishly and defends (Afflalo). Me? I've seen this story before with Delk/Flip, and I'm not buying it.

And the whole "stealing the job from Afflalo" thing, OH MY GOD HOW AMAZING, HE'S STEALING MINUTES FROM A ROOKIE TAKEN IN THE MID 20'S!!!!!!

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Because Flip Saunders has a boner for every new chucker with a streaky jumpshot just like you.

Which must be why flip murray spent the last 3 months on IR. Great point.

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And the whole "stealing the job from Afflalo" thing, OH MY GOD HOW AMAZING, HE'S STEALING MINUTES FROM A ROOKIE TAKEN IN THE MID 20'S!!!!!!

it proves he's the best backup SG option we have, which is all he needs to.

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He is what he is. A very streaky shooter who can't run an offense

He can't block shots either. Who the fuck cares? he's a shooting guard.

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He doesn't give a damn about a guy that plays unselfishly and defends (Afflalo).

"plays unselfishly"=couldn't score in an empty gym.

Good to know that a 2-guard not being able to do shit offensively qualifies as a good thing in your book.

Dixon's defense is a thousand times better than Afflalo's offense. If you think he can't defend, you're blind. He's played very good defense at the SG position with his quickness.

Even when Dixon hasn't been scoring, he's kept the offensive flow going, which is more than any other of Rip's backups have done this season.

I'd rather have Stuckey playing than him at SG. And not just because he needs the experience, but because I think he'd be better for the team. And I'd probably go with Afflalo over Dixon in all honesty.

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Originally Posted by Zekyl

I'd rather have Stuckey playing than him at SG. And not just because he needs the experience, but because I think he'd be better for the team. And I'd probably go with Afflalo over Dixon in all honesty.

Yeah, we tried the afflalo thing. Didn't work. He can't score and everyone knows it. The offense dies a horrible death because he (A) can't shoot, (B) can't pass, and (C) thinks he can do both, more often than not resulting in terrible plays.

Not only was it hurting the team, but it clogged the lane for stuckey, and his production was dropping before Dixon started playing.

Stuckey looks 50 times as comfortable out there with dixon than he does with afflalo, but I guess some people would rather lose games with 2 rookies than win games with 1.

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Originally Posted by Zekyl

I'd rather have Stuckey playing than him at SG. And not just because he needs the experience, but because I think he'd be better for the team. And I'd probably go with Afflalo over Dixon in all honesty.

Yep, if AA isn't going to play in the rotation, Flip should be going to a 3-guard rotation with Rodney taking the backup SG minutes as well. We already have a streaky chucker in the 2nd unit (Jarvis), we don't need 2. I would much rather have Stuckey's slashing or Afflalo perimeter D on the floor.

I'd rather have stuckey not need to go 1 on 3 because his teammates can't shoot, but then again I'm practical.

I'm sure Stuckey can handle the load of being the only perimeter scorer/ballhandler on the floor...

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Originally Posted by Kstat

I'd rather have stuckey not need to go 1 on 3 because his teammates can't shoot

That I agree with. What he really needs is an inside presence to go with him. Someone with a nice midrange shot. Someone like............McDyess?

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Originally Posted by Kstat

Yeah, we tried the afflalo thing. Didn't work. He can't score and everyone knows it. The offense dies a horrible death because he (A) can't shoot, (B) can't pass, and (C) thinks he can do both, more often than not resulting in terrible plays.

Not only was it hurting the team, but it clogged the lane for stuckey, and his production was dropping before Dixon started playing.

Stuckey looks 50 times as comfortable out there with dixon than he does with afflalo, but I guess some people would rather lose games with 2 rookies than win games with 1.

Stuckey's best stretch of games was when AA was playing big minutes.

From January 29th to February 19th (9 games), Rodney Averaged 10.7ppg on 52% shooting. During that stretch, Afflalo played 16.8mpg in EVERY single game, and never played under 10 minutes. The Pistons were 8-1 in that stretch.

Coincidentally (or not), Afflalo played only 4 minutes in the next game (Against milwaukee), and that was the start of Rodney's bad stretch of games. The Pistons lost that game by the way.

Your theory doesn't hold up. The Afflalo/Stuckey unit was great once Flip incorporated Amir and Sheed into that group. If anything, Afflalo took quite a bit of defensive pressure off of Rodney.

Notice what you put right at the end of that? That Sheed was with them. That's perfect. Afflalo is the defensive stopper that can knock down an open J (which will only improve with more shots, he was a good shooter in college), Stuckey can drive and dish to sheed for the 3 or the midrange J, Amir can clean up the offensive glass.