Yea the Cavs are a great defensive team and it shows. [smilie=anxious.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
The Cavs are falling hard it seems. They may fall out the mix again.
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Yea the Cavs are a great defensive team and it shows. [smilie=anxious.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
The Cavs are falling hard it seems. They may fall out the mix again.
Cavs were dominating the game till the 2nd quarter. They were up 7 going in, they're down 9 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rorschach
I think Arroyo had 7 assists in the 2nd qtr alone. He made Bo Outlaw look like Karl Malone on the pick and roll.
All I can say is that Joe had better turn that pick into something good for the sake of himself and Flip. Yes Flip. He played a bigger role in this than Dumars IMO. A player this good should have played on this team. No excuses.
He wasnt going to get much better for a guy that was tanking.Quote:
Originally Posted by FP22
Sorry, I edited the post. I think Flip/LB are obviously more to blame than Joe, but Joe should have shown more restraint in trading him so quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
It was necessary to clear $10 million in salary. Besides, the more we kept Darko, the lower his value was going to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by FP22
Its not fair to blame the coaches for a guy tanking on a succesful team. He didnt want to be here and wasnt trying to be here. Fuck him, and fuck his arrogant idea that he deserved time he didnt want to earn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
In the long run i'll take the pick no matter where it is in the first round. And we'll be able to keep our core, which is the key to us being competitive every year until the core wears out.
I don't care about his trade value. I'm saying he should have kept him, and the coach should have played him. You don't dump the salary of a 20 year 7 footer who is playing like he is playing for Orlando. He is definately playing at a level where he could be contributing big time for this team. He doesn't look like a "project" out there. If he actually got a shot at playing time, he could have probably taken over for Dice, and we could have traded him for the cap relief they covet so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
I'm pissed that he was tanking here when he wasn't getting minutes, but if Flip gave him 20 minutes would he continue to "tank"? He didn't look that way untill he gathered a few DNPs. Sure, that's not a great attitude to have, but you don't throw away a great talent because of it. There are plenty of "star" players out there that would do the same thing in that situation.
You're entitled to that. But maybe Joe D figured out he was tanking it. You dont keep a Tanker. You dont keep a guy whose purposely not giving effort on a team all about effort. Its delfino's effort that i like. Same for everyone else. Darko didnt want to put in any effort, so we gotta let him go. I give Joe D credit for giving him a chance to prove himself this year. And by not trying he spit in Joe D's face and handcuffed him out of getting a good trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by FP22
Exactly.
Darko was playing 5-7 minutes early on, and he showed next to nothing.
The game vs NY on National TV was the final straw. Darko went out and made Jerome James look like a hall of famer. He played like a bust in front of a national audience. At that point, Darko was embarrassing us.
He gave us no reason to play him that much. He was tanking from game 1.