Pistons sign Flip Murray (old thread)

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Originally Posted by The guy under Tom Wilson's desk

Yeah, the wrath of PMS really nailed it.

The reason we're no longer contenders is because we let Corliss Williamson go. That's gotta be it.

I must have missed the meeting where it was decided that all expiring contracts were guarenteed to land a quality player.

Where have I EVER said that losing Corliss no longer made us a contendet you lying cock sucker? I've said giving him away for nothing hurt our depth and not having his expiring contract right now hurts our ability to improve the team. Just shut the fuck up you fucking bought and paid for stooge.

I'm not even saying hold on to Corliss for 2 years.

I'm saying move him for another asset (DC)

We didn't even get a pick in that deal.

When that asset proved to be faulty we couldn't even get a pick for it, not even a second rounder and a TE.

We got nothing for the former 6th Man of the Year!

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Originally Posted by Kstat

My point is it's silly to expect Dumars to hold on to Corliss when he wasn't anywhere worth his contract, in the hope that TWO years down the road his expiring salary might be useful.

If that were the case, nobody would ever try to get rid of an overpaid player.

We dealt him because two years down the road we might have to pay the luxury tax FOR ONE YEAR. We were sold that giving Corliss away for NOTHING was needed to keep Ben and Tay. Then when the time came and clearing his salary would've helped avoid the luxury tax THE TEAM DOESN'T ANTE UP AND PAY WALLACE. We lost a 4 time DPOY over $3 million a year. We gave away Corliss for NOTHING.

We didn't ante up because he wasn't worth the price.

He wasn't even worth what we offered him.

Yeah who needs a 4 time DPOY and 5 time all-star when you can have Nazr Mohammed.

What excuse will you have next year when some team outbids the Pistons for Chauncey?

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Originally Posted by the wrath of diddy

Yeah who needs a 4 time DPOY and 5 time all-star when you can have Nazr Mohammed.

What excuse will you have next year when some team outbids the Pistons for Chauncey?

I've already been on record saying Chauncey will be worth as much as $14 million next season. If he improves a little on last season and averages 20/10, he'll be worth $15 million.

But if another team decides to throw Iverson money at him? I'd be fine with letting him walk too, and he's probably my favorite Piston. That's the kind of money you only pay a superstar, which chauncey is on the cusp of but isn't.

Of course, no PG since Tim Hardaway 15 years ago has been able to reach 20/10, so that might change my opinion about him being a superstar. Then again, Tim wasn't really a superstar then, either.

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Originally Posted by Kstat

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Originally Posted by the wrath of diddy

Yeah who needs a 4 time DPOY and 5 time all-star when you can have Nazr Mohammed.

What excuse will you have next year when some team outbids the Pistons for Chauncey?

I've already been on record saying Chauncey will be worth as much as $14 million next season. If he improves a little on last season and averages 20/10, he'll be worth $15 million.

But if another team decides to throw Iverson money at him? I'd be fine with letting him walk too, and he's probably my favorite Piston. That's the kind of money you only pay a superstar, which chauncey is on the cusp of but isn't.

Your favorite Piston is Bill Davidson and Tom Wilson is 2nd.

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Originally Posted by Kstat

Of course, no PG since Tim Hardaway 15 years ago has been able to reach 20/10, so that might change my opinion about him being a superstar. Then again, Tim wasn't really a superstar then, either.

A 5 time All-Star is not a superstar?

That's what I don't get. Before Shaq came to the East, Ben was the fan concensus best center in the conference. He was our superstar. People all over the world identify Ben with the Detroit Pistons.

I dunno where you grew up, but in the 90s, folks were sporting Hardaway jerseys on the blacktop.

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Originally Posted by themicrowave

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Originally Posted by Kstat

Of course, no PG since Tim Hardaway 15 years ago has been able to reach 20/10, so that might change my opinion about him being a superstar. Then again, Tim wasn't really a superstar then, either.

A 5 time All-Star is not a superstar?

That's what I don't get. Before Shaq came to the East, Ben was the fan concensus best center in the conference. He was our superstar. People all over the world identify Ben with the Detroit Pistons.

I dunno where you grew up, but in the 90s, folks were sporting Hardaway jerseys on the blacktop.

1. A player isn't a superstar because he sells jerseys. Tim was a very good player in his prime, but never was he a dominant superstar. Of course, injuries may have robbed him of the chance to reach that level.

2. Ben's not a superstar. Even in his prime he wasn't a superstar. He was an all-star calibur center that I don't think has more than one all-star appearance left in him.

How many more all-star caliber years do you think Nazr has left in him?