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Any thoughts on Goran Suton from MSU? Obviously not in the lotto, but later on. He's got decent size (6'10" 245lbs) and he can really shoot. Hits 42% of his 3s, 51% from the floor, and 85% from the line. When I was watching the Elite 8 game, he just made solid touch passes, always seemed to know where his teammates were, and killed the other team if they left him open. Solid bench player for sure.
NBA Draft day should be like christmas... Joe seems to make it feel like a swift kick in the nuts every damn year.
He sort of reminds me of Memo with lesser skills...sort of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
I actually had that typed and deleted it for fear of being mocked and ridiculed.
I actually had that typed and deleted it for fear of being mocked and ridiculed. I actually had that typed and deleted it for fear of being mocked and ridiculed. I actually had that typed and deleted it for fear of being mocked and ridiculed.
wah! wah! wah! is that funny?
Freakin Clevelander!
I thought I was setting someone up for a solid Cleveland joke there. You let me down.
And all this time I thought I was alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by theMUHMEshow
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Donna (Southfield, Mich.): Since the Pistons have four draft picks, do you think they’ll decide to choose players in the second round, as they did last year, who will agree to play overseas? What do you think will happen with Deron Washington? Will Trent Plaisted be given another shot this summer?
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Langlois: There’s a decent chance the Pistons will attempt to move one of their three second-rounders for a future second-rounder to spread out the classes a little. But, yeah, whomever they choose in the second round probably will be expected to play overseas for at least a season. Washington almost surely will play on the Las Vegas Summer League team again this year and the Pistons will then have to decide whether to sign him or encourage him to play overseas again. He’s had a positive first season in Israel. But the Pistons won’t really know if they have room or the need for him until they see him in person and, more importantly, make the major moves they expect to make and then see what else is needed to fill out around the edges. Plaisted began the season in Italy but returned to the United States quickly with a back injury that has been resolved. He has been cleared to play and has an opportunity to play in Puerto Rico for what’s left of their season but has yet to sign. He also is expected to join the Pistons for Summer League.
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
it would be nice to get a guy who can play right away instead of drafting some future europe league player or a guy with "potential" and a 5 year waiting process...Joe had one decent 2nd round pick in Amir, and Okur was great obviously...i want the next Chalmers or Millsap, not the next Alex Acker damnit!
I just realized something. Davidson is dead, time to hire Zeke as our director of scouting.
Bring on the Balkman picks?
sadly this is one of the weakest draft classes in recent memory. and that is assuming a bunch of underclassmen will declare.
but considering we'll probably draft at about #15, we will have to be very lucky to land a true impact player.
I want Blake Griffin.
Do we need an Impact player from this pick next season?
I'm guessing no - we should be looking for a guy that can contribute next season but has the ability and the mental toughness and the drive to be a starter within 3 years.
I'm not talking about potential - I'm talking about a guy that has proven himself to be on a certain level and our scouts determining if he has the drive and toughness to continue to adapt his game, grow his game and improve on his weaknesses in the next 3 years.
If we find a guy like that, who is driven, then we need to Draft him - regardless of the position he plays.
Well, that sucks right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DraftExpress
I guess he aspired to be one of the top picks next year?
Ford's top 20:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...aftyear%3d2009
What do you think of Earl Clark with our pick?
Arizona's Baldinger F, or something just declared, if I saw that right.
Chase Budinger.
^ Thats him.
Dejaun Blair Pit to kind of declare. He's doing the workouts but won't hire an agent so he can return to Pit if he isn't projected go as high as he wants...I guess.
Devendorf and Jonny Flynn are both testing the draft waters. Flynn won't get an agent, Devendorf might. I forget which mock draft it was, but in the mock the Pistons took Flynn at 15.
That's NBAdraft.net, although they don't take into account team needs at this points. It's really just their overall rankings, placed next to the corresponding team by order.
Suton sounds like he could be a good fit for the Pistons after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
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Originally Posted by DX
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If players are going to pull out, though, they should do it as early as possible so as not to waste everyone’s time and plenty of money. Goran Suton decided to pull out on the day of the camp at 3:30 in the afternoon, citing “fatigue.” Beyond the fact that he’s anything but a lock to be drafted and would probably benefit from the exposure of the dozens of European teams here in attendance more than anyone thanks to his Croatian passport—he could have handled this situation a lot better.
More here: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...-Day-One-3170/
What a great way to rebuild the team!Quote:
Brad (West Bloomfield, Mich.): This summer the Pistons need to address an area they tried to address by acquiring Allen Iverson – someone who can put the ball in the basket. Steph Curry fits that description to a T. He’s a smart ballplayer and the best pure scorer in the draft and we have the pieces to pull a draft-day trade.
Langlois: I’m not sure they do have what it takes to pull a draft-day trade, Brad – not if you’re talking just about draft picks, at least. It’s also tough to say where Curry is going to land because there are reservations about his size and true position. Most seem to think he’ll go somewhere around 10. What would it take to get up from the late teens to 10? One thing that might give Joe Dumars pause about such a move is that the cap hold would be considerably greater for a pick in the top 10 – teams have to set aside enough money to satisfy the salary allotted based on draft position – and that would affect how much money he has available to him under the salary cap. In fact, it’s conceivable he’d be looking to trade out of the first round altogether to give him that much more money under the cap in order to sign a quality free agent and still have the wherewithal to make competitive bids on Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess.
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Originally Posted by MoTown
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Originally Posted by DX
That's too bad. I like Flynn, but I'm not sure he would fit on the Pistons. I'm pretty sure Will Bynum is the future.
With the way our scouts handle the Draft I could see us trading all our picks
No point having them if we don't know how to use them.
You're being unfair, P. We have really only messed up on lotto picks (few and far between).
DrRay11, remember that, if we drafted a dud at #37, and #38 turns out to be an All-Star, Pharaoh turns into a a mushroom-cloud-layin' motherfucker. His icon shoots people who have the best intentions. ;)
Damn straight I'll complain.
IMO our debate (Mxy) comes down to what you believe is the #1 factor in player development. Either the team is responsible for the player improving or the player is responsible for improving.
IMO the #1 thing is the player's individual drive to succeed/adjust to the NBA.
Kobe Bryant wasn't the best player in the Draft the year he came out of High School - dude worked his ass off to be this fucking good. I doubt that if he spent all these years in Charlotte he'd be a vastly different player - he just has that animalistic drive to succeed.
Kevin Garnett spent all those fucked up years in Minnesota - wasn't close to being the best guy that Draft at the time. Looking back on it now he was drafted too low at #5 because he had that drive to succeed. Yeah, he had McHale and other people helping him - but every player has people helping him.
Why don't we draft fuckers with that animalistic drive? Maxiell has the potential to fucking destroy people in the NBA - but he doesn't. He has not improved much since we drafted him. Amir? WTF happened to his potential? I thought he'd put it all together this season, but he seems to have stalled. Darko? Delfino?
All lotto picks, right? Um, no - Joe and his scouts fuck up picks all through the Draft, it doesn't matter what number they pick at.
All I wanna see are the Pistons drafting people who wanna wreck shop in the NBA. They come in and fucking OWN! If you're a big then smash people. If you're a shooter then shoot 1000 jump shots every fucking day until you are Larry Bird-like. If you're a slasher then work on your handle...
If you're a PG then we're fucked because I believe the only way to improve as a PG is to actually play as many games as you can so you have experience in game situations. You can't practice how the D will react. You can go through the motions, but going through the motions and doing it at real speed are 2 totally different things.
anyway, I'm rambling again so I'm done
Ugh.Quote:
Kathy (Coldwater, Mich.): Who do you think would have a good inside presence that would be available in free agency or the draft that Joe Dumars might be interested in?
Langlois: Boozer will be the best of the free agents. It’s not very likely the Pistons would get any immediate help in the draft, but two players who could be available when they pick are DeJuan Blair of Pittsburgh and B.J. Mullens of Ohio State. Blair is more ready to play, while Mullens is bigger and might have a higher ceiling – and a lower floor.
Not all people are created equally. Chauncey Billups had a lot of good people helping him -- Pitino, D'Antoni, Flip, Prick -- but it took some time and some LB for him to get really good in this league. Not everyone can have a pro baller for a dad like Kobe did. Especially when you're drafting outside of that top 10 or so, you're drafting players with flaws in their game that they may not be able to fix all by themselves. Their talents may have been obscured by coaching situations that weren't so hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaoh
Pitino helped him?
Pitino helped him quickly move to another team after picking him at #3. :)
So we're locked in at #15. We probably moved up a spot or two by losing to the Bulls last night, so there's your silver lining.
re #69, not so fast, my friend
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Report: Syracuse guard Flynn to sign with agent
by FOXSports.com
Updated: April 14, 2009, 10:08 AM EST
Syracuse point guard Jonny Flynn will sign with an agent, a newspaper reported Monday.
Flynn, a 6-foot sophomore, said last week that he planned to enter his name in the NBA draft but had not yet hired an agent. However, The Post-Standard in Syracuse reported Flynn is expected to sign with Leon Rose, the agent for NBA star LeBron James.
Attempts to reach Flynn, his family and Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim were unsuccessful.
Flynn averaged 17.4 points and 6.7 assists per game as a sophomore. He set a school record by playing 1,418 minutes in the just-concluded season.
If he does not sign with an agent, Flynn would retain the ability to remove his name from the draft by June 15.
Syracuse juniors Eric Devendorf and Paul Harris previously had said they will also enter the draft.