Well the libs are doing a good job of carrying it today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
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Well the libs are doing a good job of carrying it today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
When you feel like yanking your brother's chain, ask how much JFK and FDR are worth in today's dollars. :)
Biden with Katie Couric
Herbert Hoover was president when the Stock Market crashed, and TELEVISION HADN'T EVEN BEEN INVENTED YET!!Quote:
“Part of what a leader does is to instill confidence is demonstrate that he or she knows what their talking about and communicates to people, if you listen to me and follow what I’m suggesting we can fix this. When the stock market crashed Franklin Roosevelt got on television and didn’t just talk about the you know the pictures of greed he’s look this is what happened.”
What a dumbfuck!
Biden is a crack up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma
I'm gonna do that. And I'll post his reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
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Over the weekend, Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden said he is against building any more coal plants in the United States.
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According to Obama and Biden's energy plan they support "clean coal" technology and want to subsidize five coal plants on a commercial scale that use carbon capture and sequestration technology.
Apparently Biden & Obama aren't in sync.
Again, what a dumbfuck!
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...owpGAD93C985O0
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Biden says ad mocking McCain is 'terrible'
18 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama's running mate says a campaign ad that mocked Republican presidential candidate John McCain as an out-of-touch, out-of-date computer illiterate was "terrible" and would not have been done had he known about it.
Obama, McCain's Democratic rival, launched the ad earlier this month, part of an aggressive push to slow McCain's rise in the polls after he chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate. It included unflattering footage of Sen. McCain at a hearing in the early '80s, wearing giant glasses and an out-of-style suit, interspersed with shots of a disco ball, a clunky phone, an outdated computer and a Rubik's Cube.
"He admits he still doesn't know how to use a computer, can't send an e-mail, still doesn't understand the economy, and favors $200 billion in new tax cuts for corporations, but almost nothing for the middle class," the ad says.
Asked about the negative tone of the campaign, and this ad in particular, during an interview broadcast Monday by the "CBS Evening News," Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, said he disapproved of it.
"I thought that was terrible, by the way," Biden said.
Asked why it was done, he said: "I didn't know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we'd have never done it."
Late Monday, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton issued a statement from Biden. In it, Biden said he "was asked about an ad I'd never seen" and was "reacting merely to press reports."
So after Barack took Biden behind the woodshed, he tries to take back what he said.
Again, what a total dumbfuck!
A total dumbfuck is at the bottom of his educational class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma
I agree with Biden that the ad about McCain not being computer literate was dumb as hell.
The cover-up is always dumber then the truth. It was a terrible ad.
Actually, Biden's statements on coal are the Obama party line. He got this right, but didn't get the nuance or presentation right when talking in a rush to ecowarrior-grrl in Ohio. Here's the full statement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6FvHs3f48E
Basically, when anyone asks Obama about "new coal plants", his response is "clean coal". He can justify "clean coal" by pointing out that we'll be victimized by the world's dirty coal otherwise and that we're the Saudi Arabia of coal. It is a reasonable argument.
Note that "clean coal" doesn't answer the question of "new coal plants".
What Obama doesn't say in a very direct way is that he's opposed to new coal plants until clean coal improves. Actually, that's not even strictly true. What he wants is to cap coal emissions, so that no matter how many new plants are built, coal emissions are capped to the same level. He wants to use that as part of the carrot-and-stick approach to adoption of clean coal. It turns out that in PRACTICE, this means opposition to new coal plants, as clean coal isn't far enough along to permit a new coal plant to go online without breaking the emissions cap.
Keep hearing talks (even got an e-mail) that they're going to replace Biden on the ticket with Hillary shortly after the VP Debates...
Apparently, the way it would go down is Biden will either say something that's controversial or they will announce that Biden has health issues, in which case he'll step down. Then, shortly after, Obama announces (probably via text message) that he's selected Hillary to be his new VP and the party will be rejuvinated and reunited for the stretch run.
Think it will happen? Personally, I don't.
Mxy? Denny? Codename? What do you think? Would Obama do that?
I can't ever see that happening. Especially if there are rumors out there now. If there were rumors about Biden's health right now, maybe. But not conspiracy theories already.
Won't happen.
When your veep selection is whooping on the other veep selection in approval, you might be inclined to stick with him. No reason for Obama to upset any boats right now, everything is going his way.
I don't see it happening. It sounds like a hoax.
However, If Obama wins, I don't necessarily see Biden being on the ticket in 2012. I was surprised Bush didn't take someone other than Cheney in 2004, for that matter. I figured they'd use Cheney's heart issues as a reasonable excuse to swap someone else in (e.g. Jeb Bush) and preserve the legacy.
Biden might not be great, but right now Biden>Palin. She just isn't doing it for me.
Cheney was technically president, no way he was giving up being president w/o actually being president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
That's a solid desperation ad, no doubt.
Get out of here, man. I don't see any shred of LOL@Biden in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahoe
LOL@Tahoe for catching flack defending Biden.
Its soooo easy to get underneath y'alls skin. :)
"He was in total frigging command!"
http://www.newsweek.com/id/162295/page/1
^That guy is a lifelong Republican that endorses Obama/Biden.
Old habits.
Anybody care to shed some light on whatever the fuck Joe Biden said today...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4981906.ece
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Joe Biden, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, has told Americans to expect a “major international crisis” that will present an early test of a Barack Obama administration.
His comments were seized upon by the Republican campaign yesterday to raise fresh doubts about the prepared-ness of Mr Obama to be commander-in-chief.
Speaking at a fundraiser in Seattle on Sunday night, Mr Biden said: “Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here . . . we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
He cited Russia and the Middle East as possible places that may cause problems, as well as the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan – “crawling with al-Qaeda” – as being of particular concern.
Mr Obama would need help and support, Mr Biden suggested, “because it’s not gonna be apparent, initially, that we’re right.” He then spotted the media in the room, “I probably shouldn’t have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here.”
You can't fix stupid. And Joe Biden is stupid.
The major foreign policy crisis happening early on tends to be the case with any new president.
Dubya had 9/11 7 months after inauguration.
Clinton had Black Hawk Down 8 months after inauguration.
Bush Sr. had Tiananmen Square 5 months after inauguration.
Reagan went into the elements leading to Iran-Contra right away.
Carter created his own early foreign crisis with the Panama Canal.
Further back than that, you have Vietnam...
If anyone knows about how hard it is to fix stupid, i would think you'd be an expert. Considering that the Pakistani government is already in danger of collapse and we have a global economic crisis, I don't think we'll have to wait until the end of bush to see another major crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma
If Repubs had said it, the libs would have been crying about fear mongering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilfredo Ledezma
I am disturbed by that. I would have been much more comfortable had he said "something could happen where Barack needs to...." etc. etc. rather than "mark my words."
We are already in an international crisis. Yes I think he's referring to Russia, Iran, Al Queda, Pakistan, and Afghanistan all testing our new President off the top to see what they are dealing with. With that said bad slip on his part to speak on it.
Fear mongering is scaring people into propaganda for your own gain last i checked.
I agree, just really bad on his part to even get on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrRay11
His overall point was that Obama will be ready and steely when something bad happens, but he had to go on and on about the nature of what bad may happen and turn the truth (yeah, something bad is going to happen -- well, duh!) into fearmongering (specifics irrelevant to his overall point).
Still dont know if it was agenda driven enough to be fear mongering, but otherwise i agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
Biden was dramatizing to tell a good story, and sometimes that doesn't play out well. He' reminds me of Belushi's motivational speech in Animal House:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsmybQKpmTw
Say what you want, marginalize it, whatever, it was not a good thing to say politically.
Joe Biden's comment = Dumb
I agree.
Everybody said it was dumb. Learn to read. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahoe
DRay and you were on the fence on it, thats about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Codename V