I feel that salary should not be taken into account in this poll. If both said they would play for free and play their hardest who would you want ben or chris
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I feel that salary should not be taken into account in this poll. If both said they would play for free and play their hardest who would you want ben or chris
we know what Ben can do, if he plays his hardest, so that's not fair either, its an easy choise...we can't change it anyway, we've played some nice games with Cwebb, he deserves a chance to get it done in the playoffs...now or neverQuote:
Originally Posted by gusman
I think Ben's playoof performances over the last two years spoke for themselves. The Pistons clearly didn't have any margin for error with the team they had, and Ben seemed to be more neutralized against San Antonio in the championship series (although I felt he didn;t have a good playoff run before he ran into Duncan), and of course Shaq ate him up last year (as he does everyone else he plays when he's on).
I just would like to have seen the Pistons get some value back for losing Wallace.
As for Webber, tough comparison, since it's still the regular season, and there's no way he can replace Wallace's emotional impact. Maybe he brings a new enthusiasm that will provide as much imprtance, and that would be a fair trade because the Pistons weren't going anywhere with Wallace at center anymore anyway.
Cwebbs playoff career speaks for itself.
Yeah and it concerned me last year when we gave up layups regularity in the playoffs as well... You Say that Easy points are hard to come by in the playoffs? Yes they are which is why CWebb's low post game and passing will be huge.... We relied stictly on jumpshots last year and now, while we still probably shoot too many, We get much more easy baskets this year...Quote:
Originally Posted by yargs
All, in all, It really depends on the matchup...
Our biggest threat in the East is Miami.... Ben get's abused by Shaq... Webber will get abused by Shaq as well... However, Webber will make Shaq work at the other end of the court.... The fact that Shaq is going to have to try to cover Sheed, Webber, or McDyess gives the Pistons an advantage they didn't have last year when Shaq didn't have to worry about Ben... Against other teams, I might rather have Ben but quite frankly, I'm not sure any other team in the East has a prayer to beat Detroit in a 7 game series...(Chicago will be tough though)
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Originally Posted by Hermy
People act like Webber never did anything in the playoffs but he has had some good playoffs... He never stepped his game up to a level that you want from your superstar but he did play pretty well. He obviously was on some good teams but he most definitly was the main option, here he is just one of many and that gives me hope that he will play well. Time will tell.. I can't wait to find out.
I blame Webber's playoff career on Shaq and Kobe...
that Kings team was great, but Timmy D and his Spurs and the Lakers were just plain unstoppable for those years.
Webber is HUNGRY now. And it seems like McDyess is just as much as Webber, and this will be huge.
Delfino's all out hustle will really help in the playoffs as well. Webber is rubbing off on these guys and come playoff time this team could be REALLY scary.
If we had an overpaid laissez fare Ben Wallace, this team would be a second round bounce.
Webber's career playoff stats are 20.9 ppg, 9.3 rpg, and 4.2 apg. Check his stats under basketballreference.com. He had some great numbers with the Kings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermy
Where Webber failed in the playoffs (miserably) was as a go-to guy. That won't be his role here, so I think he'll be fine.
Ben against the Cavs, overtime game, played 48 minutes, scored two points............yes, I said TWO!!!! That's hilarious!!!!!!!!!!
Which were much less than his stats those same years, along with a decrease in fg% and ft%. He was a good player in the playoffs, but not as good as he was a regular season guy. Add in the disappointment of never making a finals and he's not a player who lists "clutch playoff performer" on his resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by shags