Ben Gordon's Ankle Injury

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

Maybe, just maybe Bynum (at his best) is needed coming off the bench?

How many times have we been losing, he's checked into the game and started a run?

I think that happens a bit - because he is amped and ready to run. It stuns the other team for a few because he's just off to the races out there.

And that's his job - to come in and make shit happen. And he excels in that role. And if we ever hope to win a game he is needed in that role.

WTF would we do if he started? Who's gonna bring that energy and effort and get the crowd into it? You think Stuckey could do that? Or Daye? Or Summers? Or Chucky?

What about Ben Gordon, former SMOY?

And to (partially) answer my own question...

The issue with BG off the bench is that any combination of Bynum, Rip, and Stuckey at 1 and 2 hoses whatever 3P game we have. None of those guys are volume 3P aces, and we don't have so much as an average 3P shooter at any other position excepting for Tay (and maybe the unproven Daye, who's starting tonight in BG's place -- maybe he'll be a TMac). The way I see it, what really keeps Bynum out of our starting lineup is his 3P shot. The first player of Bynum or Stuckey that can attempt 4+ 3P shots/game at 37+% ought to start, given our current roster.

I'm not not comfortable with anybody but BG or CV taking 4 or more threes a game. I like that stuck and bynum shoot them very seldomly.

My thing is that Bynum should start (when he's healthy) because this team is loaded with shooters. Rip, Gordon, Villanueva, Daye, Prince, Summers and even Jerebko are all capable of knocking down a shot, but who's going to pass to them? Who's going to feed easy looks to our incompetent offensively challenged big guys to make sure it isn't 3 on 5 or 4 on 5? Stuck just ain't that dude.

I see Stuck as being one the best guys you could possibly have on the bench too. He could fill in at 1, 2 and 3 and bring a heavy offense firepower with him when he checks in to go along with a solid defensive effort that would likely cancel out any mismatch that might happen to BG, Bynum or even Rip.

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Originally Posted by Koolaid

I'm not not comfortable with anybody but BG or CV taking 4 or more threes a game. I like that stuck and bynum shoot them very seldomly.

My thing is that Bynum should start (when he's healthy) because this team is loaded with shooters. Rip, Gordon, Villanueva, Daye, Prince, Summers and even Jerebko are all capable of knocking down a shot,

And my point is -- BG provides a 3P threat in the starting lineup that no one else does. A starting lineup without a legit 3P threat won't get us far. The last thing I want is for CV to start going the way of Sheed for lack of a 3P threat on the floor. Our rooks haven't really displayed NBA 3P range yet. We need to have at least one starter shooting the NBA average or better from 3P range.

I see a lot of sheed in Charlie V, offensively.

Yeah, but neither Sheed nor CV should be doing volume 3P shooting. I'm thinking specifically about Sheed last year, where 44% of Sheed's attempts were 3P. He had the license to do so because, with Chauncey gone, no one else was taking them with great volume (though Rip tried).

Agree 100%

Charlie makes me cringe sometimes just like Sheed did.

I think you guys are kind of over exaggerating the need for a 3 point specialist in the starting lineup.

There is some advantages to having a big guy shooting from outside as well. Now your big is in better position to get back on defense and having the opposing big guy forced to play the perimeter instead of boxing out for a rebound down low. Honestly, if playing more around the 3 point line is going to help CV get back on D like it did for Sheed then I say he needs to start playing that way.

So Koolaid - are you saying you like to see your PF shooting long jumpers because it helps him be in position to get back on D?

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

So Koolaid - are you saying you like to see your PF shooting long jumpers because it helps him be in position to get back on D?

i'm saying that it's one advantage. it opens up the lane for drives and takes the opposing big out of the paint and it places your big guy closer to the basket he is supposed to defend.