Official Darko Watch

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Darko's position in front of Maxiell (and even Dale Davis earlier in the year) had absolutely nothing to do with protecting his fragile ego or enhancing his trade value, it was due to his diligent hard work in practice and his ability to take advantage of every possible moment of PT that he earned through that hard work.

End of discussion, somebody lock this bitch up.

OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons didn't care about Darko's ego, or they wouldn't have sat him for over 2.5 years!!! If they are looking to tender his ego, they play him. They crushed him.

OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons didn't care about Darko's trade value, because they were playing DALE DAVIS in front of him.

OBVIOUSLY: Darko is a better player than Maxiell at this point. It's not like now that Darko is gone, Maxiell is playing. He is still stuck to the bench!

How can you possibly say that Darko was kept ahead of Maxiell in the rotation because of Darko's ego and his trade value? That makes 0 logical sense.

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Originally Posted by Taymelo

What totally amazes me is everyone knew if you put Darko on a shit team and gave him minutes, he'd put up some numbers, and the shit team would continue losing.

What would've happend if you had put Darko on an awesome team and gave him minutes...how would the team have done?

It's too bad that Detroit fans will never know.

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Originally Posted by JackTalkThai

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Originally Posted by Taymelo

What totally amazes me is everyone knew if you put Darko on a shit team and gave him minutes, he'd put up some numbers, and the shit team would continue losing.

What would've happend if you had put Darko on an awesome team and gave him minutes...how would the team have done?

It's too bad that Detroit fans will never know.

Let's suppose for a moment that Darko replaced Dyess's role (dyess wasn't here, got hurt, whatever senario you want to make up)...

Darko would probably be able to replace his production at times and even surpass it, but he would have been inconsistant as well. I suspect we'd have a lot of leads evaporate on us. But, if he was given a season in that role to learn (playing 20 minutes a game), I suspect he could probably get his game up to what Dyess is currently (post-injuries). We probably would have lost more games last year, but Darko could probably be as good as Dyess now, with a higher cieling. Unfortunately, we can't sacrifice seasons to develop him. Had we known we wouldn't win the title, then perhaps we could have done that. But you don't know that. We certainly could have won the title. And you can't throw away a title shot to play him.

That's just my opinion though. He also might have played crappy, got benched in favor of Davis, and sulked even more. We will never know. That only thing we do know is that Darko never would have panned out here with his approach to his situation.

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

c'mon, atleast be reasonable. ~80% of people said darko couldnt play anywhere. .

Prove that. Because i dont remember a majority of people taking it that far. Nobody felt he could earn the time anywhere else. And he cant. He doesnt work hard and is a waste of time for us. We dont need lazy premadonna ego trip guys who cant grow enough balls to play hard enough to earn a spot on this team. Sorry but nothing is for free here. Fortunately for him he can get playing time in crummy orlando off his draft status alone. But its not like he beat out pat garrity for playing time. It was just given to him. When i see Tayshan, Amir, acker, maxiell, Delfino, and even okur when he was here bust their asses in garbage time. Then watch darko pout himself to death with the same time to earn his spot. It makes him look pathetic. And he was never meant to play here if he thinks it was a nightmare having to earn time with plain old hardwork.

He has no heart whatsoever. I wouldnt be surprised if he gave his title ring to the first piece of pussy he got out of one of the suburban high schools. Lil brat just doesnt care about the things that a guy fits this team needs to. Every second you see Maxiell on the court, you say "this guy is a piston". Not the same for Darkhead.

Nothing to regret. Joe D had to fuck up that pick to get his mind right. I think Darko has done alot to improve Joe D's drafting eye as far as the type of players he wants. And i'm still possibly seeing the pick from orlando being better than Darko as long as it goes no lower than 14. There will be plenty of closer to NBA ready college kids coming out by then. No more high school project hard to pass up gambles for the moment.

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Originally Posted by SKelly

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Darko's position in front of Maxiell (and even Dale Davis earlier in the year) had absolutely nothing to do with protecting his fragile ego or enhancing his trade value, it was due to his diligent hard work in practice and his ability to take advantage of every possible moment of PT that he earned through that hard work.

End of discussion, somebody lock this bitch up.

OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons didn't care about Darko's ego, or they wouldn't have sat him for over 2.5 years!!! If they are looking to tender his ego, they play him. They crushed him.

OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons didn't care about Darko's trade value, because they were playing DALE DAVIS in front of him.

OBVIOUSLY: Darko is a better player than Maxiell at this point. It's not like now that Darko is gone, Maxiell is playing. He is still stuck to the bench!

How can you possibly say that Darko was kept ahead of Maxiell in the rotation because of Darko's ego and his trade value? That makes 0 logical sense.

1. Skelly is blaming the world champion Pistons for not giving up their title hopes to prevent "crushing" Darko. OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons would not have won the title one year, and made it to game 7 of the Finals the next, because every minute he was on the floor, the Pistons' lead evaporated exponentially.

2. OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons did care about his trade value, and that's why they played him early in the season - to up his trade value. And then when he sucked out there and every lead evaporated while he was out there, it was obvious that playing him would only diminish his trade value, and the best thing to do was hide him and try to fool someone else into taking him sight unseen (in terms of 5 on 5 basketball) like the Pistons did 3 years ago.

3. OBVIOUSLY: It is flawed logic to claim Darko is better than Maxiell, and use as your only evidence that Darko didn't play, and neither does Maxiell? I can tell you this - there was a time when Maxiell would check into games before Darko - and he always did more with his minutes than Darko.

BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Carlos Arroyo, PG 33 9-14 1-2 2-5 1 3 4 6 3 0 0 1 21
Darko Milicic, FC 26 4-10 0-0 0-0 3 7 10 0 0 0 4 3 8

Darko last night: 26 minutes, 4-10 shooting, 8 points, 3 fouls, 4 turnovers, 0 blocks, 0 steals, 0 assists, 10 rebounds.

Darko supporters: "He had 10 rebounds last night."

Darko haters: He had 4 turnovers, 0 blocks, 0 steals, 0 assists, and 3 quick fouls in just 26 minutes

PS: Carlos Arroyo last night: 33 9-14 shooting, 21 points, 6 assists, 3 steals.

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Originally Posted by Taymelo

PS: Carlos Arroyo last night: 33 9-14 shooting, 21 points, 6 assists, 3 steals.

That fucker scored in double digits in all but one game (he only played 5 minutes) with the Magic. And he is shooting 52% from the floor. [smilie=angryfire.g:

Granted, its a small sample size but that's a remarkable improvement from his time here.

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Originally Posted by Taymelo

1. Skelly is blaming the world champion Pistons for not giving up their title hopes to prevent "crushing" Darko. OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons would not have won the title one year, and made it to game 7 of the Finals the next, because every minute he was on the floor, the Pistons' lead evaporated exponentially.

2. OBVIOUSLY: The Pistons did care about his trade value, and that's why they played him early in the season - to up his trade value. And then when he sucked out there and every lead evaporated while he was out there, it was obvious that playing him would only diminish his trade value, and the best thing to do was hide him and try to fool someone else into taking him sight unseen (in terms of 5 on 5 basketball) like the Pistons did 3 years ago.

3. OBVIOUSLY: It is flawed logic to claim Darko is better than Maxiell, and use as your only evidence that Darko didn't play, and neither does Maxiell? I can tell you this - there was a time when Maxiell would check into games before Darko - and he always did more with his minutes than Darko.

1. I have no real problem with the Pistons benching him. My point is that they didn't care about his ego and using the fact that they glued him to the bench as proof.

2. The Pistons really cared about his trade value, right, that's why they sat him for 2.5 years. He played at the beginning of the year because he played well in preseason. Then, he struggled and didn't see time.

3. I'm looking at Darko's success in Orlando, and Maxiell not getting any PT here. I know it's flawed to judge who's better, but I'm sure that it's Darko.

Skelly - just going back to point #2. I'm not being sarcastic. I honestly, honesty, honestly believe the Pistons were extremely concerned about his trade value this year - perhaps not years 1 and 2, but this year.

I think they played him early for two reasons:

1) see if he could play under Flip. Give him one last chance to remain a Piston.

2) showcase him for a trade.

When he played so bad it was clear he'd never crack the rotation, and would only hurt his trade value by exposing his flaws, they decided to trade him, and then hid him on the bench to hide his flaws and keep his trade value high.

OK Darko supporters. This is your chance to shine. Darko had 3 blocks last night in just 21 minutes, so lets hear the "future HOF" talk.

OK Darko bashers. This is your chance to shine. He only scored 7 points in 21 minutes, had 2 turnovers, and only had 3 rebounds - - - and his team lost YET AGAIN as a result (partially at least) of him being in the lineup for 21 minutes, so lets hear the "total bust" talk.

PS: In 28 minutes, Carlos Arroyo had nearly as many blocks as Darko (2), as well as 12 points, and 4 steals.