2009 NBA Draft

Rubio will be good with the right system/coach. If he's asked to set up the offense, push the ball, and not shoot too much until he works on his shot, he'll have time to develop.

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Jay (Detroit): Having three second-round picks to go along with the 15th, how high up could the Pistons trade? Would it be high enough so they could get a guy like Ricky Rubio, James Harden or DeMar DeRozan?

Langlois: I’m not sure they’d want to, Jay. Let’s say they traded up to No. 3. They’d have a cap hold of about $3.5 million for that pick as opposed to the roughly $1.5 million they’d have by staying at 15. That would give them $2 million less in free agency, which could be the difference in signing a second quality free agent. And there just isn’t a player at No. 3 that most scouts feel is good enough to make that type of commitment.

LLTP - OUT.

The bolded part tells me that Joe is going for Boozer or bust this off-season.

We're worried about $2 million because it could mean the difference? How?

You spend as much as $9 mil on a big, $7 on a swingman and the extra 2 nets us Harden (for example)

How does it not work out?

Unless you know the main free agent is gonna cost a lot more than $9 million. And how many free agents are out there that could demand more than $9 million?

Boozer and WHO?

Fuck me! I don't want Boozer here - that's the stay the course shit we don't need. Rebuild Joe. Rebuild!

What big are you targetting for 9mil and what swingman for 7? Not saying its not possible, I agree with the concept. I'm just curious who you're looking at.

With that scenario, you get Harden, you get someone like David Lee for 9mil (a little bit much for him, IMO, but that's probably about right) and 7mil for maybe Williams from ATL? Or you tempt Childress back to the American game and hope ATL doesn't match. I'm not sure what swingmen are out there. For 7mil, he'd better be a starter or have a huge role off the bench though. A 7mil backup for Tay isn't going to get much court time.

the Utah owner talked about the Jazz not beeing tough enough, he said he thinks Booozer is a marquee player, but he had concerns about Boozer defense & leadership....yikes

Sounds like Boozer wants to exercise his option but the Jazz don't want him to.

so anybody thinking about the wizards and the #5 pick yet?

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy

Sounds like Boozer wants to exercise his option but the Jazz don't want him to.

Yeah, they're shooting themselve in the ass by talking about Boozer's downside in public... makes other GMs say "oh, yeah I want to spend 10M for a defensive liability without leadership skilz"

I'll stick by the "opt in" prediction.

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Originally Posted by Zekyl

What big are you targetting for 9mil and what swingman for 7? Not saying its not possible, I agree with the concept. I'm just curious who you're looking at.

With that scenario, you get Harden, you get someone like David Lee for 9mil (a little bit much for him, IMO, but that's probably about right) and 7mil for maybe Williams from ATL? Or you tempt Childress back to the American game and hope ATL doesn't match. I'm not sure what swingmen are out there. For 7mil, he'd better be a starter or have a huge role off the bench though. A 7mil backup for Tay isn't going to get much court time.

What big? Every free agent big not named Carlos Boozer lol

What swingman? Should have said perimeter player. Someone young.

Now that Washington got the #5 pick:

Is it possible we give up a second round pick and collect Haywood and the #5?

Who would we take?

Griffin goes 1, Rubio @ 2, No O goes 3, Hill goes 4? Harden for us?

Would we be able to start him (assuming we traded Rip somewhere for a big)?

Would he mesh with Stuckey and Bynum and AA?

Would they give away that pick and Haywood for a 2nd? I don't think so. They could get something back in return for it that's more valuable than a 2nd for sure.

Name it, Clevelander, keeping in mind the salary-shedding goal.