I'm gonna have to agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
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I'm gonna have to agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
Like most libs, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
Debts are killing other countries and y'all stick your head in the sand and then start name calling.
Sooooooo typical.
Case closed?
GOP scrambling to re-write Boehner Bill, it apparently is even worse than his own party even thought.
Whoops.
Yeah, real boner of a move on his part.
This is getting good. These boobs are all turning on each other. McCain spoke out about bending over for the Tea Party and now the noobs are all pissed. They have a rat in the ranks who is feeding all of the info from private meetings to Politico. There's someone on the inside feeding info to the Tea Party about who is falling in line and who is not.
This whole thing is about to blow, just in time to get a nice, neat, compromised deal in place.
These guys are clowns.
Props to McCain for speaking up.
Popcorn?
Ever see one of those sad stories in the news where some elderly person froze to death in the winter after a gas shutoff and it turned out they had lots of money in the bank but were too senile to take care of their bills?
That's the debt ceiling debacle. A level of political dementia has set in where we are about to get our shit turned off in the middle of an economic winter.
Agreed. It would be funny if it weren't for the whole global economy in ruins thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by geerussell
My favorite part was when the Dem's plan was revealed to actually cut more spending than the Republicans but they still waste everyone's time trying to "win". Puke.
sorry, but... rofl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahoe
Boehwned, again.
Clowns! lol
At least Boehner is smart enough to delay the vote when he doesn't have the votes.
Pelosi pissed me off in late-2008 by not being smart enough to do that.
Faux News just reported that there will be a vote tonight, and that a handful of conservatives just went into the chapel to pray together, lol.
LMMFAO! Oh, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny
Harry saves money by...not invading Normandy again or something.
Y'all are frickin hilarious and Vins post is ...
Just keep your head in the sand.
Sheep...all of you.
Christians are funny and should be laughed at according to Glen but Muslims deserves compassion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
Glan has turned into a joke...maybe always has been.
Yeah, lets just keep spending taxpayer money on liberal programs that are not effective while taxing peeps out of their homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrRay11
Thats a great plan...if you want our Gov't to control everything.
Oh yeah...that never happens with the Dems...idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
Y'all are seriously becoming too stupid to talk to if you want to keep taxing peeps so our Gov't can spend money on ineffective programs and Gov't waste.
Seriously, y'all are losing it cuz your messiah doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. lol
Or maybe its just the unions y'all are protecting...whatever it is, its not worth running the country over a cliff with Gov't spending.
The Tea Part, of all colors and races versus the Unions, who in Wisconsin looked like a bunch of white racists.
Hell yeah I'm going to LMAO at a group of boobs who pray for strength because they can't get their shit together enough to pull off a plot to sabotage the country. I don't care what religion they are, if they fail, that's good.
I haven't seen anything out of congress or the white house to suggest they understand the condition of the patient, so their diagnosis is naturally pretty fucked up. We have a debt crisis but it's a private debt crisis not a public debt crisis. Nothing is going to improve until the underwater private sector finishes paying down debt and starts spending again. There's no substitute for time in this process and there is no instant fix for it through government action. Until it's over we have a deflationary cycle of low demand feeding unemployment feeding even more demand destruction.
The government can do one of two things. Spend more to prop up demand, softening the downturn keeping unemployment in check until the private sector has healed. Or the government can spend less causing more demand destruction, more unemployment making for a longer, more severe downturn.
All I see is Obama and Boehner arguing over how much worse to make it.
If you want to see shrinking deficits, the economy has to get through the downturn into growth where deficits automatically shrink as safety net spending decreases and tax revenues rise on the tide of a growing economy. Cutting into a downturn shrinks the economy, perversely making deficits even bigger.
Should be pretty obvious why the Prez couldn't get an agreement with Boehner, Boehner can't even get agreement in his own party.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the NY Post went with "Raging Boehner" as a headline, lol.
I haven't seen too much by the patient to suggest they understand their own condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by geerussell
I like cake.
Oh really? I thought Boehner passed something and your Prince Harry wouldn't let it come up for a vote in the Senate??? I could be wrong cuz I'm not following this and hyperventolating about everything like you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
And see my sig, dumb ass, your Messiah couldn't even get one vote for his budget.
This is still a tragedy that the Dems took taxpayer money and didn't even pass a budget when they had control of EVERY FUCKIN THING!
What a bunch of TARDS! Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you libs?
You dumb asses could have increased the debt limit then too.
Instead you whine and cry like lil bitches.
Seriously, LOL @ YOU!
The Dems in Congress thought that, by kicking the budget (and the at-the-time associated debt limit) to the curb, somehow things would end up better for them in 2010. It was idiotic. Tahoe is absolutely correct on that point.
I am curious about how defunding defense is going to work out for the non-tea party Republicans.
In that vein, would you say this was naive, stupid or just the outcome Obama wanted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
Quote:
Obama, at his press conference last December, announcing his surrender to the GOP on tax cuts; the questioner was Marc Ambinder:
Q Mr. President, thank you. How do these negotiations affect negotiations or talks with Republicans about raising the debt limit? Because it would seem that they have a significant amount of leverage over the White House now, going in. Was there ever any attempt by the White House to include raising the debt limit as a part of this package?
THE PRESIDENT: When you say it would seem they’ll have a significant amount of leverage over the White House, what do you mean?
Q Just in the sense that they’ll say essentially we’re not going to raise the — we’re not going to agree to it unless the White House is able to or willing to agree to significant spending cuts across the board that probably go deeper and further than what you’re willing to do. I mean, what leverage would you have –
THE PRESIDENT: Look, here’s my expectation — and I’ll take John Boehner at his word — that nobody, Democrat or Republican, is willing to see the full faith and credit of the United States government collapse, that that would not be a good thing to happen. And so I think that there will be significant discussions about the debt limit vote. That’s something that nobody ever likes to vote on. But once John Boehner is sworn in as Speaker, then he’s going to have responsibilities to govern. You can’t just stand on the sidelines and be a bomb thrower.
I'm not as tuned into this stuff as gee and Mxy, but my feeling during all of this is that Obama knew that whatever he got behind, the party of no was going to oppose at face value.
By choosing to sort of stay out of the fray, he's getting what he really wanted/needed all along.
When you're not dealing with reasonable people, you have to adjust accordingly.
Whoops! Was that out loud?Quote:
LMAO...so frickin funny and predictable from Glan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
As soon as everyone understands Glan comes from the pov that Obama is ALL KNOWING, you'll understand his clueless posts.
December was after the election. The budget should have been made long before.
As far as how Obama feels about this outcome, I think the best angle is how the Republican POTUS candidates feel about it and how this plays for 2012.
AFAICT, they're all the Candidates Of No.
Are you saying December comes after November? Cuz I agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
true story.
Finally some common ground.
MIRACLES HAPPEN!!
I'm calling bullshit.
I'm sure Tahoe has some left.