I'm shocked anyone can think Nazr Mohammed isn't any better than Kelvin Cato. .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Train Wreck
It's a haterade summer. Anyone we aquire will be ripped on and dismissed.
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I'm shocked anyone can think Nazr Mohammed isn't any better than Kelvin Cato. .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Train Wreck
It's a haterade summer. Anyone we aquire will be ripped on and dismissed.
It's disappointmentade. Everyone was hoping that we'd re-sign Ben and find a way to get Bonzi. Instead we have Nazr and Flip. Can't blame people for being underwhelmed.
Kelvin Cato is better than Mohammed if we keep the MLE to actually upgrade the bench to compensate for the loss in the starting lineup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
We had Bird rights on 3 players, and lost one (Ben), the other remains in limbo (Cato) and the last was a guy you could take or leave (Hunter).
I'd say that is a somewhat fair assessment. To even the casual observer this team seems to be separating itself from the Miamis and San Antonios of the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Riley blew up the Heat but brought in more raw talent, the only question was would it mesh. We definitely did not add a lot of talent or depth this offseason.
Cato is crap. His best season was 7 and 7 for a lotto team.
It's a wash
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...submit=Compare
Cato's last full season ('05) vs. Nazr. last year.
Nazr put up basically the same numbers in 7 fewer minutes per games?
Sounds like a wash to me....
Nevermind the fact Nazr is a hell of a lot better defending the post, this is a stupid comparison.
Seems to me that Cato had significantly more blocks, steals, rebounds, and less turnovers. Nazr had the same # of fouls in 7 less minutes, which probably had a bit to do with why he played 7 less minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Cato was never a bad defensive center. He just never had much offense, but at least he could make a FT better than Ben.Quote:
Nevermind the fact Nazr is a hell of a lot better defending the post, this is a stupid comparison.
He gets more blocks, but only because he jumps at everything in the air. Blocked shots aren't a sign of good man-to-man defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
No, he was never BAD, but Nazr's very good man-to-man.Quote:
Cato was never a bad defensive center. He just never had much offense, but at least he could make a FT better than Ben.
Cato would probably block more shots off the ball, but he's so undisciplined his man would score a lot more too.
Which is why I think Joe Dumars is doing one of the worst jobs in the NBA this offseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by themicrowave
Please don't anyone here suggest that we can't rip on Joe for his work product in the past two years, since he did so well the two years before that.
I don't care how many rabbits he pulled out of his hat a few years ago.
His last two years have sucked, and he deserves blame for it.
Traded away good players for nothing (Corliss, etc.). Let good salary swap guys go for nothing (Coleman, etc.), let a cheap backup Shaq stopping center retire (Elden) and signed a much worse (and shorter and lighter and therefore non-Shaq-stopping) center for more years and more money (Davis), trading Darko for an expiring contract, did nothing with the expiring contract, let Ben go w/o working a s/t, didn't trade Darko for Al Harrington when he had the chance, signed Lindsey Hunter for at least twice his worth, etc.
LOL, Joe's to blame for Elden retiring?
Joe's to blame for us not getting value for Derrick Coleman?
Some stuff is vaild, some other stuff is just reaching for shit.
Ok, so let me ask you: how long until you think Dumars should be fired?
Which current GMs would you rather have on this team?
While i'll be the first to admit Joe could have done better, I sure as hell realize that no GM is perfect, and Joe's successes have been better than %90 of the GMs in the league. Shit happens.