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07-25-2011 05:23 PM
Tahoe

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Tahoe, the policy you're backing seems to be recommending curing Gangrene in the right leg by cutting off the left leg and shoving a spike into your eye. There's just no logic to it.

How is cutting spending an analogy to that ^?
07-25-2011 05:24 PM
Tahoe

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Originally Posted by geerussell

The tea baggers driving the republican bus right now don't care. Economic consequences, length and depth of recession, unemployment... none of that stuff matters. It's an ideological crusade against government, taxes and social spending of any kind. If that has to be a scorched earth fight then so be it.

Even when it gets down to the personal level where their own unions are busted, their jobs are cut, their social safety nets taken away... they're happy to be martyrs for the cause. No social wreckage or economic pain is too great to bear in the name of ideological purity.

And the libs don't care about economic consequences of going down this same path of taxing and spending.
07-25-2011 06:24 PM
geerussell

Gun to your head--demonstrate a grasp of the consequences of taxes and spending going up or down. I'll go grow a beard waiting for that one.
07-25-2011 06:34 PM
Tahoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by geerussell

Gun to your head--demonstrate a grasp of the consequences of taxes and spending going up or down. I'll go grow a beard waiting for that one.

lolwut?
07-25-2011 06:36 PM
Tahoe

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Originally Posted by Vinny

It's becoming pretty clear that Boehner's going to ram something through congress in a political move to make it the other side's "fault" if it doesn't get signed. Someone needs to tell this guy this isn't 3rd grade anymore. This is real life. Sickening.

According to Vin, apparently Prince Harry can ram something through and thats not a political move, oh no, thats something to help America. But when the Repubs do it, it's a political move.
07-25-2011 07:24 PM
Tahoe

Obama to campaign for 2012 tonight...err ah make a speech about the debt ceiling tonight.

This guy is nothing more than his next election. Thats all he's worried about.
07-25-2011 07:39 PM
geerussell

Yes, Obama is terrible... and the reason he's terrible is he's arguing with republicans over how best to smother the economy. Primary. Challenge. Please.
07-25-2011 08:04 PM
Vinny

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt...aph2-popup.gif
07-25-2011 09:05 PM
UxKa

Vin, Tahoe just doesn't get it.
07-25-2011 09:07 PM
UxKa

Quote:

Originally Posted by geerussell

The tea baggers driving the republican bus right now don't care. Economic consequences, length and depth of recession, unemployment... none of that stuff matters. It's an ideological crusade against government, taxes and social spending of any kind. If that has to be a scorched earth fight then so be it.

Even when it gets down to the personal level where their own unions are busted, their jobs are cut, their social safety nets taken away... they're happy to be martyrs for the cause. No social wreckage or economic pain is too great to bear in the name of ideological purity.

Yeah, I can pretty much agree with that, and it sucks. They are willing to sink the ship to be ahead on the other side, and that's a hard, hard fight.

The other day I threw a biscuit from Popeye's at some tea baggers that were protesting... it felt good.
07-25-2011 09:10 PM
geerussell

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Originally Posted by UxKa

I threw a biscuit from Popeye's

I was with you till you disrespected the biscuit. I'd have made a diving catch for that.
07-25-2011 09:11 PM
Vinny

Don't feed the pigeons.
07-25-2011 09:13 PM
UxKa

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Originally Posted by geerussell

I was with you till you disrespected the biscuit. I'd have made a diving catch for that.

It was kind of stale already, otherwise I wouldn't have parted with a good thing lol
07-25-2011 10:06 PM
Tahoe

That chart is so full of bullshit, it'd take a year to dig in.

Y'all just don't get it. Obama spent more in 2 years than any other Prez in 4.

I know you want to tax job creators to death, but thank God the Tea Party and Repubs are here to stop this nonsense.

Seriously, y'all need to get a grip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt...aph2-popup.gif
07-25-2011 10:39 PM
Vinny

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tahoe

That chart is so full of bullshit, it'd take a year to dig in.

Y'all just don't get it. Obama spent more in 2 years than any other Prez in 4.

I know you want to tax job creators to death, but thank God the Tea Party and Repubs are here to stop this nonsense.

Seriously, y'all need to get a grip.

Those figures come from the CBO. Now the CBO is lying?? Seriously dude.
07-25-2011 10:39 PM
Glenn

18 times under Reagan, lol.
07-25-2011 10:55 PM
geerussell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tahoe

Y'all just don't get it. ...

I know you want to tax job creators to death

In the face of weak demand for his goods and services what happens when a Job Creator gets a tax cut? Does he spend on a new employee or save the windfall?
07-25-2011 11:11 PM
Glenn

A composite of 5 major polls show that only 26% of the country believes that deficit reduction should be accomplished by spending cuts only, 67% believe that a blend of cuts and revenue increases is the right path.

Getting in bed with the Tea Party is going to be a huge mistake for the right.
07-25-2011 11:38 PM
Tahoe

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Originally Posted by Vinny

Those figures come from the CBO. Now the CBO is lying?? Seriously dude.

Do you even know what the CBO is?
07-25-2011 11:39 PM
Tahoe

I obviously own all y'all and I think you know that, but I should get this to even teams and DESTROY you morans.

My twitter buddies would seriously make you look like 2nd graders.
07-25-2011 11:41 PM
geerussell

Your posse rolls hard.
07-25-2011 11:43 PM
Tahoe

Your's does too.

http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2011/...g_david_wu.jpg
07-25-2011 11:46 PM
Vinny

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tahoe

Do you even know what the CBO is?

Do you??

I have 3 degrees bitch.
07-26-2011 02:20 AM
Uncle Mxy

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

I obviously own all y'all and I think you know that, but I should get this to even teams and DESTROY you morans.

My twitter buddies would seriously make you look like 2nd graders.

"morans". LOL.

I'm waiting until some real news happens as a result of this debt limit. The closest I've seen that isn't politics/posturing as usual by all sides is how Obama waged a successful denial-of-service attack on the Congressional web servers.

The only way the Republican House can nudge the Democratic Senate into going their way is to make it an election issue that the many Senate Dems up for re-election would think they're at the losing end of, vote-wise. Thus far, I don't see too much evidence of that happening. I kinda hope the House stalls to the point that Obama invokes the 14th Amendment. That'll be entertaining as all fuck.
07-26-2011 04:57 PM
Glenn

Direct quote from Eric Cantor on Hannity just now: "We need to stop Barack Obama, that's what this is all about."

So there it is.
07-26-2011 05:36 PM
Tahoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glan

Direct quote from Eric Cantor on Hannity just now: "We need to stop Barack Obama, that's what this is all about."

So there it is.

Absolutely. He needs to be stopped. He is seriously fucking this country up.
07-26-2011 05:47 PM
Glenn

The country's best interest and the will of the people, be damned.

Stay classy.
07-26-2011 05:51 PM
Tahoe

Believe me, the will of the people didn't sign up for the bucket of stupid Obama brought to the office.

Also, Cantor was elected and its his job to stop stupid for the good of the country when he sees it.

Glen obviously doesn't get politics. SMH
07-26-2011 06:00 PM
Glenn

This is bigger than politics.

So dumb and short-sighted.
07-26-2011 06:18 PM
Glenn

politico:
In a new Reuters/Ipsos debt ceiling poll, a majority of respondents are aligned with Obama's position: http://politi.co/of3U89
07-26-2011 06:53 PM
Glenn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glan

Getting in bed with the Tea Party is going to be a huge mistake for the right.

Quote:

Tea Party coalition warns GOP lawmakers: A vote for Boehner's bill means you violated our pledge. http://huff.to/qiRZfr
07-26-2011 08:11 PM
UxKa

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

Believe me, the will of the people didn't sign up for the bucket of stupid Obama brought to the office.

Umm.. I'm pretty sure they did.

But there you have it folks. If you ever again try to reason facts with Tahoe, just remember that the people did not sign up for Obama, even though he was elected.
07-26-2011 08:38 PM
Tahoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glan

This is bigger than politics.

So dumb and short-sighted.

Glad you are finally agreeing with the Tea Party. The debt will kill this country.

Welcome aboard, Glan.
07-26-2011 08:38 PM
Tahoe

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Originally Posted by UxKa

Umm.. I'm pretty sure they did.

But there you have it folks. If you ever again try to reason facts with Tahoe, just remember that the people did not sign up for Obama, even though he was elected.

His poll numbers say peeps didn't. But that might be difficult for you to understand.
07-26-2011 08:48 PM
Glenn

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

The debt will kill this country.

Riiiight.

Very convenient now that your boys lost the White House, you know, good ol' boys like Dick "deficits don't matter" Cheney.

Very convenient.

You don't even believe the stuff that you're typing, do you? C'mon, be honest.
07-26-2011 08:50 PM
Timone

Are you trying to say he's being a heel just for the sake of it?
07-26-2011 08:51 PM
Glenn

Heel/troll, whatevs.

It's the only possible explanation, really.
07-26-2011 08:51 PM
Tahoe

I've talked about Gov't spending since I was on this board, chief.
07-26-2011 08:52 PM
Glenn

It's a very elaborate plan, apparently.
07-26-2011 08:58 PM
Tahoe

So apparently Barry blamed Bush...again... last night. When is this pussy of Prez going take some responsibility? I know the sheep won't blame him but he'd do a lot better with the peeps if he'd be mature about it and take some responsibility.

Look at Bush as an example. Clinton left Bush with a recession but Bush did not blame him.

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