Pistons sign Flip Murray (old thread)

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Originally Posted by b-diddy

(incidentally, anyone who doesnt think race plays a huge factor on how we judge players, want to defend dunleavy getting drafted 19 spots ahead of tay?).

The race thing is BS. They did have fairly similar numbers, but Dunleavy always had the ball handling, court vision, size, and fundamentals. People questioned whether Tayshaun was too skinny (a legit concern), and that busted looking shot is a bit of a turn off.

BTW, what about the 96 draft when 14 players were taken ahead of Steve Nash? Or how about the 84 draft when Leon Wood was taken before John Stockton? Must have been a racial thing, eh?

The draft is what we call a crap-shoot. Pointing out one instance of a player being drafted too high (in a weak ass draft at that) doesn't show anything.

Not sure why anyone thinks that Flip is a 3. That's hilarious to me.

He's been a 1 and 2 his whole career. That's not going to change here.

Nazr/Davis/Cato
Sheed/Dice/Maxiell
Prince/Delfino/Johnson
Rip/Flip/Acker
Billups/Hunter/Blalock

I likes. Flip can help out at the 1. Delf at the 2 here and there.

Our team is extremely athletic and we have very many interchangeable spots.
Everyone up front can play the 4 and 5 no problem. I like this very much.

I'm excited. Fuck y'all.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2520208

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Even more perfect for the Pistons was the price at which they got him. The Pistons originally offered the majority of their mid-level exception to Murray, but Murray hesitated to take it, hoping to get a more lucrative deal elsewhere.

now, the thought of Flip Murray as our only FA signing w/ our midlevel exception is scary. coming out of FA w/ Nazr and Flip isn't bad when you think we could have had just one. i know it's not reason to celebrate, but i'm glad it happened this way.

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Originally Posted by Matt

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2520208

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Even more perfect for the Pistons was the price at which they got him. The Pistons originally offered the majority of their mid-level exception to Murray, but Murray hesitated to take it, hoping to get a more lucrative deal elsewhere.

now, the thought of Flip Murray as our only FA signing w/ our midlevel exception is scary. coming out of FA w/ Nazr and Flip isn't bad when you think we could have had just one. i know it's not reason to celebrate, but i'm glad it happened this way.

Sure it's reason to celebrate. Last legit backup 2 we had was Jon Barry.
Also, Delf is better at the 3 and it really evens things out. I'm excited
about Naz too. He's going to be perfect here.

Read somewhere else that the Sonics offered the MLE last season but he rejected it. Guess he doesnt really want the big money...

Some Cavs/Sonics fans say having Flip playing the 1 is llike Shaq playing shooting guard. Flip can't handle the ball and turns the ball over alot. At times, he gets selfish and doesnt pass until theres ike 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

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Originally Posted by Cross

Read somewhere else that the Sonics offered the MLE last season but he rejected it. Guess he doesnt really want the big money...

Some Cavs/Sonics fans say having Flip playing the 1 is llike Shaq playing shooting guard. Flip can't handle the ball and turns the ball over alot. At times, he gets selfish and doesnt pass until theres ike 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

or his agent isn't doing a good job gauging his market value. in the EPSN article it said he was holding out on the Piston's offer for more money.

well, at the very least, hopefully Flip Murray's out to play hard and earn a big payday down the future. if that means he'll bust his ass while he's here, that's not a bad thing at all.

regarding backup PG, i'd like to see Delfino handle the the rock at PG. w/ Flip, you've got people who keep saying he can't play PG. w/ Delfino, i remember that he did a decent to good job running the offense while he was in. he just looked more comfortable handling the ball up top.

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Originally Posted by MOLA1

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Originally Posted by Matt

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2520208

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Even more perfect for the Pistons was the price at which they got him. The Pistons originally offered the majority of their mid-level exception to Murray, but Murray hesitated to take it, hoping to get a more lucrative deal elsewhere.

now, the thought of Flip Murray as our only FA signing w/ our midlevel exception is scary. coming out of FA w/ Nazr and Flip isn't bad when you think we could have had just one. i know it's not reason to celebrate, but i'm glad it happened this way.

Sure it's reason to celebrate. Last legit backup 2 we had was Jon Barry.
Also, Delf is better at the 3 and it really evens things out. I'm excited
about Naz too. He's going to be perfect here.

i'm on the same boat, man. we don't need a bench that looks great on paper. aren't we the same Piston's fans who preach about how chemistry > big names?? we need one that will play well as a unit. we're not going to find that out until the season starts, so i'm also excited for the upcoming season. not because i think we're winning a title, but i'm intrigued to watch these guys (and Flip Saunders) figure each other out.

I read almost this entire thread and I don't see anywhere we talk about him in transition. Thats his strength in scoring, not chucking off slow dribbles.

I don't see why anyone can be unhappy with this signing when you factor in need/price/youth. The problem with last years team is we all shot jumpers. Flip can score in transition and get into the lane like Rip can. When Rip came out of the game the offense was stagnant, we had to rely on Delk. Flip is younger, more athletic, a better scoring option, and a better bargain than Delk. Good signing.

Delfino seems like he would be a good PG. Good decision making, good ball handling, and can shoot the open jumper or pump fake dunk on Alonzo Mourning if needed.

Where do you people get this "Delfino at PG" garbage?