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Relax guys. We'll up the offer a little bit, get it to where Ben is no longer "insulted," and let things go from there. I think Ben's comments make it clear that it's not all about the money. I doubt he bolts to Chicago for a few extra million.
BTW, I'm not sure how legal this is, but can't we give Ben certain bonus incentives based on his performance? If so, that would help us to pay him more without putting is further over the cap than we already will be.
Incentives will be judged "likely" or "not likely"
Those judged "likely" count against the cap.
"Not likely" would be average 10ppg and hit your fucking FTs.
Seriously, all the shit he didn't do last season or EVER could/would be judged as "not likely"
word on the street is that Ben sold his house here and was looking in Chi town for a new house. My family is friends with a realastate dude, who knows Ben's agent.
Hope its not true.
Take it for what its worth.
where did ben say he was insulted? i never saw that.
but it does look like ben is ready to move on "we had a nice run there"...
you guys, i think, are missing the bigger point. the pistons have (had?) created a culture where players wanted to come to detroit, even at a paycut. pistons let ben walk away over a few million dollars, and its over. im wondering how many of the people that would let ben walk away remember the grant hill era, where our big men were the likes of don reid, theo ratliff, otis thorp, terry mills, grant long. and our spectacular FA acquisitions were grossley overpaying brian "bison dele" williams. cuz thats what happens if we short change ben.
despite what the popular opinion of today is, big men still dictate the entire game. there is not one realistic "plan b" that keeps us in contention next year, especially when ben can, and probably will, just walk to chicago and not even give us a sign and trade.
Yeah, but Diddy, the direction the league is headed in requires big men to actually put the damn ball in the basket once in a while. We know Ben can't and won't be able to do that, ever. That's just the way I feel.
i completely disagree. and find your post funny, only because most people are suddenly saying the exact opposite, that post play is obsolete.
we obviously can win with ben. i dont know if we can win with him being a non factor on offense, but we can win with him as a piston.
Yeah, but we aren't going to win shit if we use up all our available money re-signing ben.
We also aren't goign to win if ben keep whining like a little bitch that he doesnt get the ball enough.
and if he leaves we're left with nothing except the MLE.
Yep, either way we lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony
Only way for us to win is for him to stop being a greedy bitch and accept the measly 50 million, or get a decent sign and trade.
Truthfully, I dont think he's even worth $50 million in a league that punishes good defense and almost forces you to put 5 guys that can score on the floor at one time.
Now, I didn't say he had to score in the post. Just score.Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy