I agree. Steve Kerr needs to stop stealing pages out of the Danny Ferry GM Bible.
I'd be livid right know if I was a Suns fan. I think you have to get rid of D'Antoni, and bring in a guy who can coach both sides of the ball. (Larry Brown?)
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I agree. Steve Kerr needs to stop stealing pages out of the Danny Ferry GM Bible.
I'd be livid right know if I was a Suns fan. I think you have to get rid of D'Antoni, and bring in a guy who can coach both sides of the ball. (Larry Brown?)
To be honest, he had to make a move like that. I hated the deal from the start, but they weren't going to win with the same team/style that they haven't been winning with for the past 4 years. That style just doesnt' work. So they had to try something different. Unfortunately, they needed a post player that is mobile and a strong interior defender. Shaq is neither. Someone like Rasheed would have fit that system, but I don't know if anyone other than Shaq was available.
The problem is D'Antoni. People need to stop talking about him like he's a genious. He's not a good basketball coach.
Phoenix would have been better off staying pat, keep Marion and when he opts out over the summer (which I assume he will do), they could've signed a guy like Elton Brand instead...
Now they are stuck with Shaq for the next 2 years paying him FORTY MILLION!!!
This is Kerr's "Darko" move...you know how on HoopsHype on the GM profiles it lists each GM's best and worst transaction...well this one will almost certainly go under the worst of Stever Kerr's when they get bounced in the 1st round this year...
I don't think they "had" to do this at all.
They were possibly a convenient David Stern suspension from winning it all last year.
I don't think you are spinning this Mo, but if anyone here tries to justify this deal if they barely make the playoffs or, even worse, miss them altogether, then that's crazy.
I completely forgot about that. That was such a bullshit call last year. Honestly, who wouldn't have loved a Suns-Cavs finals? Bad call Stern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
I didn't explain my point very well. My point is that the Shaq trade was horrible and stupid. It doesn't make sense with that team. But they weren't going to win anything with the team they had. They tried to win with that style and continued to lose. They needed to change something up. So they added a "dominant" post player in hopes that could possibly work. Even if there was a chance of it working, they had to try. It didn't, just like most of us predicted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
My point is that they wouldn't win with the old style, but they had to try something different. This wasn't it. It was stupid, but at least they tried to change it instead of trying the same broken formula every year.
the move looks awful, but they did have to try something.
yea, they could have stood pat, but then they could have watched andrew bynum score 200 pts in a quick 4 game sweep. thats what it would have been.
are they fucked right now? doesnt look good. but i still believe their chances against the lakers are better now than they were pre trade. and maybe thats all that matters?
i guess they could have S&T'd marion over the summer. i dont know though.
I guess it all depends on how close you think they were to getting to the Finals last year (where they would have beaten Cleveland).
I still think they were robbed, so I can't go along with the blanket "they weren't going to win anyways" rationale.
Taking on Shaq was a bad move both in a basketball sense (he's washed up) and a business sense (that contract is horrid).
If it ends as poorly as it might for this year's Suns, they may have to try and move Snaq again themselves this summer. No easy task, even with a huge expiring contract. Who will want to take the luxury tax hit?
Lastly, anybody else getting this fucking "Cavalier tickets" banner ad at the bottom of this thread? How depressing. Maybe Dan Gilbert found WTF?
shaq refusing duncan's help off the floor was classic. and thats part of it. shaq knows about toughness. the suns problem last year, as much as anything, was that they were the league's little buddy. thats not shaq.
holy cow! you ll see it on sportscenter for years. plus he jumped over the kids.
yes, its true. im a big shaq fan.