Here's a bit of a thinkpiece for you guys.

I just can't be around bigoted people, period. I've walked out on my family members a couple times because I heard things that disgusted me.

Zip's not a bigot though, he's the fucking man. I'm just saying, in general.

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Originally Posted by MoTown

You've stated before that wars start because of religion. I agree and disagree. Wars start because of thick-headed people that want everyone to have their same opinion, and religion just happens to be what they hold on to. If there wasn't religion, it would be something else: politics, food, Cavs fans http://thehype.files.wordpress.com/2...bron-james.png... Religion isn't the problem, religion is the excuse.

Basically, don't get mad for people believing in something you don't, because you're doing exactly what pisses you off in the first place.

I basically called out someone in another forum who started a "If I ruled the world I'd ban religion" thread saying the "end religion, end wars" rhetoric. Pretty much offended him somehow. But I can't see how persecuting religious people as any different extremist religious people persecuting others. Is as if someone believes their removal of religion makes such extreme stances ok. The issue is human culture not religious culture.

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Originally Posted by MoTown

I can't stand the "Christians" and "Muslims" that get angry when you state your opinion and don't agree with theirs. THOSE PEOPLE are the real problem, and even the reason wars exist.

I'm not sure if truer words have been spoken.

With or without religion, you have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things. But for good people to do bad things, that requires religion.

The "end religion, end wars" rhetoric is nonsense and I'm a big fan of freedom of religion, if for no other reason than it helps keep the religious people from going to war over it.

All I know is if you try your evangelical shit on me it's not going to be a religious issue, it's going to be a "Sir Douche Baggins is about to kick your ass" issue.

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Originally Posted by Big Swami

But for good people to do bad things, that requires religion.

yikes, how do you equate that?

He's equivocating. Swami loves him some equivocation.

I think if good people do bad things, that doesn't really make them good people.

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Originally Posted by MoTown

I think if good people do bad things, that doesn't really make them good people.

I think we need a cogency ruling on this.

I'm leaning towards :cogent: