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Let's wait until Joe D. dips into the Aussie baller bank and pulls out some 7 footer. Interesting to see what WOD would say then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaoh
That would be two choices, right?
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Even though she's a lesbo I'd still hit it.
Might even be lucky enough to have her girl join in too.
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Darko critics soon might see the light
By Sean Deveney
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August 29, 2006
There haven't been many highlights in the past few years for Darko Milicic, unless, of course, you include those highlights he so often sported in his hair. And those highlights were most definitely lowlights.
It is common sport in the world of NBA discussion to lampoon Pistons president Joe Dumars for his selection of Milicic with the second pick in the 2003 draft, especially as the guys Dumars passed up -- Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh -- have developed into All-Star caliber players. I know it is common sport because I have appeared on numerous radio shows during which Darko was a repeated punchline. With good reason, I suppose -- Milicic has averaged 3.0 points per game in his NBA career, and has played about as many total minutes as Wade plays in a couple of months.
But, through the stream of wisecracks and naysaying, I've kept the Darko faith, for three reasons: 1) I was so utterly inundated with predraft praise for Milicic from very respected NBA personnel people, and I figure there had to be a reason for that. Everyone thought Milicic was a can't-miss before the 2003 draft, and it's just so hard to believe that everyone could be so wrong; 2) While watching Milicic whenever I could, I thought he looked like a guy who has great tools -- he's a seven-foot lefty who is fundamentally sound. Good footwork, good ballhandling, good screen-setting, a knack for passing. Those things are hard to find in a young player; 3) It's hard not to respect Dumars as a judge of basketball talent.
Last year, Dumars seemed to decide that if Milicic was going to develop, it was not going to be in Detroit. The Pistons were already stacked with big men and were too focused on a championship to worry about coddling Milicic's psyche. It seemed there was too much negative Darko energy in Detroit for him to flourish -- he was pouting about not playing, while fans and the media pretty much gave up on him. Even if he suddenly was given playing time with the Pistons, Milicic already was too beaten up in Detroit to succeed. So Dumars shipped Milicic to Orlando with Carlos Arroyo for Kelvin Cato and a first-round pick next year.
I'm wondering which decision Dumars should regret more -- the decision to draft Milicic or the decision to trade him. It was a no-win situation. Keep Milicic in Detroit and he might wither. Trade him and Milicic probably would prove to be the kind of player the Pistons thought he'd be when they drafted him, only he'd do it for someone else. Either way, Dumars would come out looking bad.
The loss of Ben Wallace to the Bulls adds a new wrinkle, though. Surely, if Dumars knew he would lose Wallace, he would not have traded Milicic. Now, without Wallace, the Pistons are filling their middle with Rasheed Wallace and Nazr Mohammed. Not a bad tandem, but not exactly bursting with youth and upside, either.
This is all relevant because, if you've been paying attention the results posted at the FIBA World Championship in Japan, you know that Milicic has been Serbia and Montenegro's best player. More than that, he has been one of the best players in the entire tournament. He was excellent against Spain's difficult frontcourt, putting up 18 points and 15 rebounds, plus three blocks. He had 24 points and 12 rebounds against the vaunted Argentina squad and blocked six shots against Venezuela. In all, Milicic averaged 16.2 points, 9.3 rebounds (third in the tournament) and nearly three blocks.
Put that production together with the solid performance Milicic had last season once he got to Orlando, and it appears Milicic is on the upswing. There's no guarantee that what is happening in Japan will carry over to the NBA, but Milicic has looked supremely confident, in a way he never was in Detroit. He will likely earn a starting job in Orlando, and averages of 12 points, eight rebounds and a couple of blocks per game are within reason.
It seems that those who have been goofing on Milicic for the past three years will soon have to change their tune. Unfortunately for the Pistons, that changed tune won't be sung in Detroit.
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i cant believe we've never discussed this before. what were we thinking for the last few years?
btw, since no one will want to discuss this, who thinks ernie simms could be the new darko to matt leinart's carmello/wade/bosh/heinrich/ford/kaman/diaw?
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Originally Posted by DennyMcLain
i hope Darko sports the porn-stache again.
those were good times.
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Originally Posted by Matt
good times.
He doesn't have a stache in that pic Matt.
They were still good times.
That's not what the hoes in Pontiac tell me.
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it was in the budding stagesQuote:
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LOL, I mean GROSS!!
Those were also the Eddie Munster "wind tunnel tested" hairdo days.
Ah, the memories.
With Darko anchoring the bench (2 Finals appearances, 1 win)
Without Darko, humiliation at the hands of Bubba Shaq, Crybaby Antoine and Floorsweep Wade. BOOHOO!
Bring back Darko!
The Darkness is claiming to be 270 lbs.
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Seven-footer Darko Milicic, who revived his career after arriving in a midseason trade with the Detroit Pistons, looked a little beefier after some weight-room work in his native Serbia-Montenegro.
He said he weighed 270 pounds -- up 10 to 15 pounds more than last season, when he said he weighed "255-260." Milicic looked as good in the FIBA World Championship as he did in a 30-game Magic cameo last season and will battle Battie for the power-forward spot.
He also looked a lot happier, realizing he has a chance to start and make a lot of money in this, his contract season. Buried on the Pistons bench after being the No. 2 pick in the 2003 draft, he said, "I can't wait for the games to come on."
i'm rather proud of my photoshop skillz here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
I'd ask who wins, but the answer should be obvious.
Ben Wallace
Chucky Atkins
Kelvin Cato (aka salary relief)
Conditional 1st round pick
for
Darko Milicic
Carlos Arroyo
Grant Hill
Article by former Detroiter, Jamele Hill
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The intrasquad scrimmage was supposed to be nothing more than a glorified pickup game, but Howard played as if he were facing the Miami Heat.
He annihilated Darko Milicic, which is no surprise. But this was important because what separates the greats from the mere mortals is they play their hardest no matter if it's Sudoku or a playoff game.
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Makes and Misses: Putting out camp fires
By Steve Kerr, Yahoo! Sports
October 10, 2006
Looks to me like people out there are starting to get fired up for the NBA season.
With training camps in full swing and the exhibition season upon us, the letters have been pouring in from fans all over the world. From Amare Stoudemire and Darko Milicic to Steve Nash and Isiah Thomas, everyone has a favorite topic.
I've tried to touch on the major themes of this month's emails. (My comments appear in italics.) So here you go, hoop fans.
Three weeks until the season starts!
TRAINING CAMP ("Telling NBA camp stories," Oct. 5, 2006)
This article, once again, proves why you should never be allowed into the NBA again. Are you seriously talking about Darko Milicic as being one of the "dominant" players in the league? In all honesty, please quit your job as an analyst and writer for Yahoo! Sports for the sake of all legitimate sports fans across the globe.
Joe
Davis, Calif.
Joe, I just looked back at my article regarding Darko and failed to find the word "dominant" anywhere. Then I reread it and still couldn't find the word. In fact, my whole piece was based on the possibility of Milicic developing. Joe, I'm guessing you suffered miserably on the reading comprehension section of the SATs. And no, I'm not quitting my job.
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I get frustrated when people criticize Darko Milicic. I was an advocate of him before he was on the Orlando Magic (my favorite team). He is a big man with an overall game – a weaker copy of Dirk Nowitzki. Don't call him a draft bust just because he didn't get playing time on a deep Detroit Pistons frontcourt. Heck, he's not even the worst pick. That "honor" goes to Michael Olowokandi, a player given many chances who failed to produce. Give Darko a chance before criticizing.
Joel
Gainesville, Fla.
Joel, I just looked back at my comments regarding Darko and failed to find the phrase "draft bust." Then I reread it and still couldn't find the phrase. What is the matter with you people? Read what I write. Soak it in. Evaluate it. Do whatever you want with it. But stop putting words into my mouth!
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I agree with you about Milicic. The world championships showed he has a bright future. He is a big-time team player, but in order for good things to happen to him in the NBA, he must be one of the first three options offensively, with more freedom.
Darko Sedej
Arlington, Va.
Darko, If my name were Darko, I'd be rooting for Milicic, too. But you – unlike Joe and Joel – make a good point. Milicic needs to be one of the focal points of the offense, and I think in Orlando he will be. Jameer Nelson will run the show, and the ball will go through Dwight Howard and Milicic on most possessions. This is a huge year for Darko. I think we're going to find out if he's going to be an emerging star or simply a journeyman for the rest of his career.
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"I vant to molest you."
That's going to be somebody's avatar here soon.
Too bad Kilo isn't here anymore, he'd be the guy.
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Pay Darko now or later?
By Mike McAllister
Thanks to an offseason weightlifting program, Darko Milicic has bulked up, reportedly adding 20-25 pounds of muscle to his 7-foot frame. Now the question becomes: Will he shed the weight of all those expectations that have become so heavy since he was drafted second overall in 2003?
During his 2-1/2 year tenure in Detroit, Milicic received more grief than playing time. His development was of secondary concern to a Pistons club focused on the immediate goal of winning titles. But last February's trade to Orlando gave him a fresh start and significant minutes on a younger team with long-range aspirations and more patience.
Then at this summer's World Championships in Japan, he had a breakthrough performance with his Serbia & Montenegro team, averaging 16.1 points and 9.3 rebounds while holding his own against the best international players. With a bigger, stronger body and a chance at moving into the Magic's starting lineup alongside Dwight Howard, he appears poised to have a breakout season.
But for now, it's OK to remain skeptical about Milicic. After all, the Magic appear to be. Faced with signing Milicic to a extension or waiting until next summer when his contract ends and he becomes a free agent (the Magic will have first-refusal rights), GM Otis Smith has indicated he wants to judge the 21-year-old's worth on more than the 30 games he played in Orlando last season.
Wise move, but it'll prove costly if Milicic matches his Japan numbers this season. Smith, however, seems willing to pay a premium for a proven Milicic as opposed to rolling the dice now on one who remains an enigma. Of course, judging a player in his contract year also has its own risks, since his motivation might disappear as soon as he inks that big-money deal.
So what would you do? Would you rather lock in Milicic now at what would probably be a cheaper rate or hold off and see how he performs for a full year? Or do you still consider Milicic a bust who'll never make a significant impact for a contending team?
By my calculations, Darko has added 85 lbs. of muscle since he was drafted.
lol, theoretical muscle? or does he just keep gaining the same 15 pounds over and over again?
For the record, he lost 4 oz. when he shaved his cheesestache.
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Magic steamed about hit on Milicic
By John Denton, Florida Today
ORLANDO — The Orlando Magic plan to send video footage of a controversial play in which Darko Milicic was knocked to the floor and injured his back to the NBA for further clarification.
Milicic was drilled in the chest by Atlanta Hawks rookie Shelden Williams' shoulder Tuesday, sending the Magic power forward sprawling. Milicic landed hard on the floor, bruising his lower back. X-rays Tuesday showed no structural damage, but Milicic isn't expected to play tonight when the Magic face the Hawks in Birmingham, Ala.
Magic coach Brian Hill was furious about the play and was assessed a technical foul for protesting to referee Courtney Kirkland. He was still fuming Wednesday, saying Williams should have been whistled for an offensive foul.
"I watched the tape, and the angle we have it's difficult to see," Hill said. "But you can tell by the way (Milicic's body) lifts up off the floor that it had to be an offensive foul.
"We'll send three or four clips to the league to get clarification, but that's pretty common procedure."
Lifted him off the ground? Darko's a big boy. That's a hard hit.
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kudos to steve kerr for responding to the rabid fans.
Darko's got plenty more size than Shawn "all height, no weight" Bradley.Quote:
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Honestly, that man has the face of a pug with a giant forehead. It's just......strange. Then again, in a league with Sam Cassell, that's nothing.
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No long term deal for Milicic, Magic
As expected, Tuesday’s NBA deadline officially passed without the Orlando Magic and Darko Milicic coming to a long-term contract extension. Talks can’t commence again between the Magic and Milicic until July 1, 2007, according to the league’s collective bargaining agreement.
Milicic originally signed with Detroit in 2003 after the Pistons drafted him at No. 2.
Milicic will now become a restricted free agent, meaning he can negotiate with other teams next summer. The Magic, though, will have the right to match any offer for the 7-foot, 278-pound power forward.
The Sentinel learned that the parameters of a contract were in place at one time since the season ended in April.
But Magic General Manager Otis Smith reiterated that the club wants to see how Milicic --- who arrived in a trade from the Pistons last season --- performs over the course of a season.
“I want to see if we have a player,” Smith said.
Milicic sat on the bench for two-plus seasons in Detroit before showing glimpses of promise during a 30-game cameo in Orlando. He has a lot riding on this season, with his long-term value fluctuating from $40 million to $80 million.
Smith touched base with Milicic’s agent, Marc Cornstein, on Tuesday. Cornstein called Milicic’s negotiations with the Magic “tricky,” given his client has not proven his potential.
“We understand. They want to see what they’re getting,” Cornstein said by phone from New York. “You do open the door to other teams, for them to say, ‘Hmmm, what would it take to make a run at Darko this year?”’
Smith said he realized that Milicic, 21, could turn in a great season, increasing his market value and thus, his asking price. “That’s a nice problem to have,” Smith said. “We’d have a player. I see that as a win-win.”
Lets sign Darko!
Ok, back to reality. Darko has a chance to lock up some serious money. In a world were big men are grossy overpaid, Darko is so young and has the skills to really dazzle some people (even if it is inconsistant) enough to get paid big time.
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Monday, November 06, 2006
Darko's back (sulking) ...
12:20 p.m. 11/06/06
SALT LAKE CITY — Word out of O-town is that Darko's starting to pout about not getting as much playing time as he would have liked in this, a contract season.
Beating out Dwight Howard for minutes wasn't going to happen. Even Darko's not that dillusional. But being outperformed by Tony Battie?
It kind of makes you think twice about paying this guy a contract starting in the $8-10 million range, doesn't it?
No one has ever questioned whether Darko has skills. But the more you watch him play, and how he responds to not playing, the more you get the sense that this kid is never going to get it.
You earn minutes by playing, not pouting.
More...Sam Smith
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Darko Milicic spends most of his time frowning and loping around without much spirit backing up Howard in Orlando. No wonder the Magic didn't offer him an extension. He'll probably return to Europe.