Pistons sign Flip Murray (old thread)

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Originally Posted by FP22

I've seen him play at every stop he's been at and he sucks. Period. He is a detriment to the team more than he is a positive. He just chucks up a bunch of shots off the dribble. He can slash, but he's not a high percentage slasher (the entire point of it). And there is no way it works in limited minutes.

This is bible. Put it front page, put it back page, put it anywhere.

A friend of mine from Seattle just laughed at me on the phone.

Him: "Hey, you guys got Flip Murray!"
Me: "Don't even start..."
Him: "Flip ain't that bad. He's like a blind Ray Allen."

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I've seen him play at every stop he's been at and he sucks. Period. He is a detriment to the team more than he is a positive. He just chucks up a bunch of shots off the dribble. He can slash, but he's not a high percentage slasher (the entire point of it). And there is no way it works in limited minutes.

As I recall, you said the same thing about Rip Hamilton...

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Originally Posted by FP22

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Originally Posted by Matt

alright, i did the actual calculations (not sure where 8/48 came from):

in less than 30 minutes a game last season (41 out of 76 games):

129 FGM / 329 FGA: 39% FG

What about like 10-15 minutes? I wish I could find some of the older ones to see what it was like a few years ago. He got too many minutes with the Cavs last year consistantly to judge.

0 - 20 min: 37% FG (16 games)
10-15 min: 33% FG (only 4 games :) )

all hail, Microsoft Excel....

i need to forward my resume to the Piston's statistical analyst..... :P

I'm not a fan of Flip Murray. Geez, this has been a bad offseason. Probably the worst 6 months of organizational stuff I've seen in a while from Joe D, from the darko trade, to losing ben, to replacing him with NAZR, to this. le sigh.

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Originally Posted by Kstat

A whole 8 for 48.

Wow. Nice sample size.

I remember a smaller sample sized used to prove how worthless teh Mo-Fino combo was.

And it was right then, It was right all year long.

for the record, i'm not ecstatic about signing Flip......but at this point, i don't see us making any big splash moves.

our success is dependent on Flip Saunders finding rotations and combinations that work, and go like 8 players deep. since when do we care about how we look on paper? if the bench can click and the players can compliment each other, we're not that bad off, imo.

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Originally Posted by FP22

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Originally Posted by Kstat

A whole 8 for 48.

Wow. Nice sample size.

Look dude, you can defend him all you want. I've seen him play at every stop he's been at and he sucks. Period. He is a detriment to the team more than he is a positive. He just chucks up a bunch of shots off the dribble. He can slash, but he's not a high percentage slasher (the entire point of it). And there is no way it works in limited minutes.

right, this is what im saying. there will be times when he'll look like a steal at 1.7 million. other times, you'd rather not have him on the team at all.

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Originally Posted by Matt

for the record, i'm not ecstatic about signing Flip......but at this point, i don't see us making any big splash moves.

our success is dependent on Flip Saunders finding rotations and combinations that work, and go like 8 players deep. since when do we care about how we look on paper? if the bench can click and the players can compliment each other, we're not that bad off, imo.

Ben Wallace backlash, IMO.

I think a lot of piston fans are secretly rooting for this team to fail so Flip Saunders, Joe Dumars and anyone else that had anything to do with Ben's departure can be kicked out the door.

Of course, some people simply love being negative just for the sake of being negative.

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Originally Posted by Kstat

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Originally Posted by Matt

for the record, i'm not ecstatic about signing Flip......but at this point, i don't see us making any big splash moves.

our success is dependent on Flip Saunders finding rotations and combinations that work, and go like 8 players deep. since when do we care about how we look on paper? if the bench can click and the players can compliment each other, we're not that bad off, imo.

Ben Wallace backlash, IMO.

I think a lot of piston fans are secretly rooting for this team to fail.

Only to spike your KoolAide IV Kstat.
The Pistons have a worse bench now, and don't have the starting 5 to make up for it anymore.

No one is secretly rooting for the team to fail, they are openly anticipating it.

And it's only going to get worse - Signed Money Billups.

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Originally Posted by Kstat

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Originally Posted by Matt

for the record, i'm not ecstatic about signing Flip......but at this point, i don't see us making any big splash moves.

our success is dependent on Flip Saunders finding rotations and combinations that work, and go like 8 players deep. since when do we care about how we look on paper? if the bench can click and the players can compliment each other, we're not that bad off, imo.

Ben Wallace backlash, IMO.

I think a lot of piston fans are secretly rooting for this team to fail.

Only to spike your KoolAide IV Kstat.

Someone's gotta fight the negative vibe in here. May as well be me.

God forbid one of us actually likes the Pistons anymore. We lose one guy and all of a sudden its like we're the Knicks.