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Detroit would be renamed "East Compton"....

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Originally Posted by Kstat

If it came down to chandler or dalembert, even I'd take chandler. He makes $2 million less than Sam and he's arguably a better player.

Dalembert is WAY better. He actually can play defense, and occassionally scores, plus he doesn't foul out every 5 minutes.

Chandler is a great rebounder, but everything else he is horrible at.

Dalembert can block, rebound, run the floor, and defend on occassion.

I'd take Dalembert, Carney, and (hopefully) change, if it looked like Ben was on the way out. Hell, it would also keep Philly above Orlando, IMO.

That would probably solve our 2/3 thing though, and if Bonzi wants to sign with us, I would look at other stuff(Green + picks?, picks + picks, stiff(Salmons?) + picks).

If we could get Claxton and a big in FA(Elson, Butler, some random stiff with the BAE), and get Dalembert and Carney, we could actually have a pretty good bench.

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Originally Posted by FP22

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Originally Posted by Kstat

SO I guess the probably make about the same. I'd still rather have chandler, who I think has more room for growth.

Yea, I'd lean towards Chandler as well. It might help that he was teammates with Tayshaun in High School. Maybe it would help him find a comfort zone. I know back in his 2nd year he was actually pretty competant offensively, so it must be a confidence thing. He had his worst offensive year of his career this year.

But the kicker is that we may be able to get something else out of the Sixers (one of their athletic swingmen). That could change my opinion.

Chandler is the worse player, and has motivation concerns(sorry, but I don't want that with Sheed already here).

Give me the player that is still learning, and tries, over the one still sleeping, and doesn't care.

Dalembert is hardly a pitcure of motivation. The guy shows up every 5th day, and has hands of stone then even ben would laugh at.

Tyson Chandler ............... $9,000,000 05-06 add in the max raise of 10.5% and the contract for 06-07 is 9.94 million meaning after 06-07 Chandler is owed 44 million over 4 years.

http://www.dfw.net/%7Epatricia/misc/salaries06.txt

both have low basketball IQs and can't stay on the court for 30 min a game cause of foultrouble...thats what really worries me besides their contracts

The name I am pimping is Reggie Evans, regardless of Ben, Chandler, or Dalembert. I think we need an energy guy off the bench in terms of rebounding and defense. I say get him and trade DD and our 07 pick for a solid swing man if possible. I know we have needs at PG and SF but I don't think there is a guy who fits the bill either worth the MLE or willing to take the MLE.

What a weak-ass offer.

THey expect Ben to bolt for a measly $4 million?

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Originally Posted by JS

My whole thing with Ben is, I don't want to lose him for nothing but unless he modifies a few attitude related thing, I can see justification in trading him. To me if Ben comes back and becomes the highest paid player in team History, he needs to be quiet about his role, his offense and the coach.

lol, you can expect to see alot of this in the paper, too, im guessing.

which is complete bs. explain ben's attitude problems.

his bitching about not getting involved in the offense? he's damn right he should have been involved. i dont care if he shoots 0.0% from the ft line, let him be a part of the offense. LB knew. flip doesnt. the pistons dont have the talent to play 4 on 5. and whats really maddening is that, given a chance, ben could help offensively.

his bitching that we dont play enough D? well, looks like he was right there, too.

disresepecting flip? comes with the territory. if flip cant control his players (looks like he cant), thats on him, not ben.

the guy with the attitude problem is sheed. give ben his money and get sheed the hell out of here, if thats how bill needs to pinch his pennies.

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his bitching that we dont play enough D? well, looks like he was right there, too.

...and ben can start right with himself, since he was a total non-factor on that end in the playoffs.....