LOL @ the Dems

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

Please add "public" before every place I said unions.

Hmm. I don't think I've ever meaningfully distinguished between public and private unions. What makes one virtuous and one immoral?

I took the UAW out of it to make sure all you Detroit Pro Union cats still love me. aintgonnahelp

Sad.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy

And if their pay were comparable to private sector peeps, that'd make sense. With many types of guv'mint jobs, the base pay is less, but overall compensation is offset somewhat by better bennies. That's how you sell some clueful people to settle for less overall compensation and career advancement. I think I posted about this on WTF before we lost months of posts.

Their pay is from I've read and heard/seen on the tube. I'm sure you can dig up a link that says otherwise and then we could have a link war. No thanks.

These union babies, or they act like 2nd graders anyway, are in a tizzy cuz private sector peeps want them to pay for their retirements and hc. Actually, as I said, a smaller portion than private sector peeps pay.

They act like they are on the low end of the wage scale and they are not. They are living better than lots of private sector peeps. They need to pay their own way and quit being fucking babies about it.

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Originally Posted by Fool

Hmm. I don't think I've ever meaningfully distinguished between public and private unions. What makes one virtuous and one immoral?

One is basically tax dollars and the other isn't. at least afaict.

Yes, that's what makes them private and public. What I'm asking is why is a public union immoral and private one not (which I think you've already answered with, "they are both immoral I just didn't include private unions because you guys are from Detroit").

I don't look at it and ask why do public union employees have it so bad. I ask why have private sector employees accepted union busting?

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Originally Posted by Tahoe

Wisconsin...we can now see how the Unions babies act when they are asked to contribute LESS than what private sector peeps have to pay for their retirements and hc.

Unions are seriously an evil force in this country. Nothing but leeches on taxpayers money.

Please add "public" before every place I said unions.

Or... maybe Wisconsin's republican governor manufactured a crisis as a pretext for union busting. It wouldn't be the first time republicans have gone backdoor against unions.

Walker gins up ‘crisis’ to reward cronies

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Originally Posted by Fool

Yes, that's what makes them private and public. What I'm asking is why is a public union immoral and private one not (which I think you've already answered with, "they are both immoral I just didn't include private unions because you guys are from Detroit").

Private unions suck too nowadays. But don't we have choices to buy products from private Unionized labor? If I think the product costs too much, I can choose not to buy it, correct? I can choose to pay the private union's members pensions and hc by buying or not buying their products.

Taxes, on the other hand, is mandatory and we shouldn't be paying for their benefits that are better than the majority of the private sector gets.

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Originally Posted by geerussell

Or... maybe Wisconsin's republican governor manufactured a crisis as a pretext for union busting. It wouldn't be the first time republicans have gone backdoor against unions.

Walker gins up ‘crisis’ to reward cronies

I heard most of that and look forward to the Gov's response.