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Rodney Stuckey is a cool guy.
It's really neat when a guy from a small school makes an NBA roster.
He's doing an incredible job on the glass for a pg.
Remember when he said, "that's me" at the draft?
That was a good answer.
He's better a better PG than Flip Murray.
Gotta love rookie deals.
Kid isn't afraid of getting blocked.
He's courageous.
I posted in the RS Assessment thread before I saw this. Kinda wish I hadn't now. . . But I did it because Pharoah asked, not for any of you.
For the record, Atticus, I'm still a Rodney Stuckey fan. I just don't like arguing with Glan and his cronies about why he's no good.
I had zero support the last 2 years when it came to this subject, I'm still not quite sure what to think about this.
It feels like a trap.
#1 - I ain't one of Glenn's cronies.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoTown
#2 - who said Stuckey isn't any good?
#3 - the kid has game, has a ton of potential and I judge him by the same criteria I judge all rookies/young players.
If they haven't shown much by the end of their 3rd season it's time to move 'em on.
Obviously Stuckey has shown a lot, so I'm all for keeping the dude. I never said I didn't like him, or that I thought he was crap or whatever.
I'm quite happy we've got him and I'm pretty sure everyone else is too.
The debate isn't about him as a player - the question is "Is he or isn't he a PG""
Didn't mean to offend, P. I was just stating my position.
I think the subject has been debated to death, that's all I'm saying. I think he can be a good combo guard with the right backcourt pairing, but I also think with a lot of work he could succeed as a big PG. It will just take more time to do that. Learning the PG position is the hardest position to learn in the NBA, and it's even harder when you've never played that spot in your life.
ALL DONE. I'M NOT COMMENTING ON THIS AGAIN FOR AT LEAST THE REST OF THE SEASON.
(Sorry to call you a crony - I wasn't actually referring to you or anyone in particular for that matter)
I didn't get offended, man - just stating my case.
I realise that because GD is here all the time and always posting that anyone who agrees with his actual position (right now Stuckey ain't a pg) might get thrown in to the same group.
That's basically my position - although I wonder if we're hurting the kid by not letting him be "all he can be" in his natural position/role.Quote:
I think he can be a good combo guard with the right backcourt pairing, but I also think with a lot of work he could succeed as a big PG. It will just take more time to do that. Learning the PG position is the hardest position to learn in the NBA, and it's even harder when you've never played that spot in your life.
^I basically agree with you, MoTown and P. It's not a debate as much as it is just wanting others to at least understand my position on Stuckey, even if they won't agree.
Everyone can agree that the guy can ball and get to the hoop like nobody's business. I think over the last few games the shot has been clicking as well. His rebounding numbers are superb, and even the assists are improving. It just seems premature to say that he isn't a PG, IMO. I think we should hold off until the end of this season to make that judgment.
I predict that he ends the season averaging around 17.5 PPG, 6.7 assists, and 7 rebounds, and that's my conservative estimate. The high end would be something like 19 PPG, 7.2 assists, and 7.5 rebounds, IMO. The first prediction is one I feel pretty safe with.
Atty, I'm with you for the most part, but those numbers are pretty bold. Seriously, 17.5/6.7/7 as a conservative estimate?? Those are like HOF type numbers! I hope he can do it but really??? If he goes 17/6/4 I'd be ecstatic!
If Stuckey can average 17ppg, 6rebs and 5 asts I will be stunned.
Ain't no way he does it. NONE!
That's my prediction lol
I know I've said that I don't read into stats this early in the year, but here are his currents:
16.0 points, 5.9 rebounds, 4.1 assists
He's not really far away, all things considered. Just find the open man a few more times a game and he's there, right?
I think it's a given that the points will creep up a little bit now that the shot is falling more consistently, rebounds will stay around the same. The question is, can he keep netting around 6 assists or more per game, as he has recently?
Points may be harder to come by once Rip gets back. I'm less concerned about absolute #s than I am about ratios -- FG%, 3P%, assist to TO, rebound rate, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atticus771
Really, I think he needs to let the game come to him and he'll do fine. He's shown some flashes of that... let's hope for more.
I'm with Mxy - FG%, 3pt% and assist to turnover ratio is more important.
That said the way he plays is more important than numbers. His control of the team, the pacing, the direction he provides...
Kuester talking big shit with this claim, time will tell i guess.
http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.s...pistons_r.html
I believe that's just all about motivating Stuckey to be all he can be defensively.
What do you expect Coach to say?
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh
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Originally Posted by Michael Curry
Stuckey's the only player keeping us in this game with Dallas.
big ben, maxiell, kwame and bynum have all done their part too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
Sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaoh
How bout Will the thrill... that cat is for real
National media attention in 3...2....1.....
He's been one of the better SGs in the East over the past 5-6 games, for sure.
Defiant until the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glan
How is that not a compliment?
Rules of the thread, my man.
And I'm complimenting you. You can give Rodney Stuckey the largest amount of praise that you've ever given him, yet you still can't resist throwing in the SG piece. The only thing that would have made it sneakier is if you would have typed it as SG instead.
Edit: SG is supposed to be at 1 font. But it's not working.
I guess including him in with guys like LeBron, Wade, et al isn't high enough praise these days.
Glenn's just happy he was the first to discover Stuckey was not a PG
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Originally Posted by Glan
I don't think Glen was defiant, and this is sure as shit not the end.
^Good point.
Let me know when we're allowed to say "I told you so" about Bynum to him, P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaoh
And now a word from our presenting sponsor:
Rodney Stuckey owns. That is all.
So when everybody is healthy and he's playing PG, will this thread really heat up.
I'm counting on it, personally. I'm hoping it's next week, 'cause that's when I'll be off work for two weeks and will have ample time for WTF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Dynamite
Here's a question to keep this thing going:
If Stuckey continues at this pace he has set over the last 7 or so games, will the coaches vote him in to the All-Star Game?