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Glenn
08-09-2007, 02:41 PM
I've been trying to do some outside of the box thinking about how the roster can be improved without Billy D having to play the luxury tax.

One way that this could be done would be if the Pistons used the trade exception that they received from trading Carlos Delfino.

Delfino's salary is $1,868,141, so the Pistons now have a trade exception (good for one year from the date of the trade) in that amount.

In a normal trade, salaries have to match within 125% of each other, but when you use a trade exception to acquire a player, you can only use the actual value of the exception plus $100K (per Larry Coon).

That means the Pistons could acquire a player from another team that makes as much as $1,968,141.

The nice thing about going this route is that the Pistons currently have about $1.7m under the tax threshold (source) (http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4873/pistonssalaries0708revipt4.jpg), so either they could keep the salary of the incoming player under $1.7m to keep under the threshold, or they could use the full $1.968m and the tax damage would be pretty minimal (actually the PR value of being able to tell fans "Hey, we paid the luxury tax" might be more valuable than the amount of the tax itself, but I digress).

Here's another advantage of going this route. They might be able to pluck a pretty decent player from a team that is currently over the tax threshold. For example, if a team is currently over the tax threshold, and we were to take a player that makes $1.968m in salary from them in exchange for our exception, it would actually save the other team almost $4m in salary and taxes, which is pretty appealing.

Now we have the issue of creating a roster spot for the new incoming player. I think Lindsey retiring is probably the easiest way to do this, and it probably makes the most sense too.

So if you've made it this far reading this long-ass post, here's the question, who are some players in the $1.968m or under-range that we might be able to aquire from teams that are over the tax threshold?

Thanks for reading, and good night now.

axemanozh
08-09-2007, 02:46 PM
The Pistons never used the Mo Evans trade exception, so I'm not holding my breath they'll use this one, either.

Glenn
08-09-2007, 02:47 PM
:emo kid:

Jethro34
08-09-2007, 02:51 PM
Justin Reed from Houston - though I'm not sure when they acquired him. If they're going to sign Francis they'll need to make room.

RegicideGreg
08-09-2007, 02:51 PM
Virtually no one because the players in that bracket are mainly young guys that teams either wouldn't bail on yet or are a steal at that price.

Glenn
08-09-2007, 02:53 PM
As far as I can tell, these are the teams over the tax threshold right now:

Philly
Minny
Phoenix
Boston
Denver
Dallas
NYK

Glenn
08-09-2007, 02:55 PM
Minnesota has 17 players under contract right now.

Could this be a nice deal for Ryan Gomes? ($770K) There were rumors that they were just going to cut him, so wouldn't they rather do this?

Fool
08-09-2007, 02:59 PM
There were rumors they were going to cut Gomes? Is even Mchale that dumb?

Glenn
08-09-2007, 02:59 PM
Dallas is overstaffed as well, and is rumored to be considering waiving DJ Mbenga (7' C, $1.8m).

Glenn
08-09-2007, 03:01 PM
There were rumors they were going to cut Gomes? Is even Mchale that dumb?


Report: Wolves may cut Gomes

Aug. 2 - 8:43 am et

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram and Celticsblog.com are both reporting that rumors abound suggesting that the Timberwolves may cut forward Ryan Gomes, a player they just acquired from the Celtics.

Gomes can play either forward position and, in our opinion, appeared to be a key player in the Kevin Garnett deal. He's young, has one of the best attitudes of any player in the league and put up solid numbers for the last two years. If the Wolves were to cut Gomes, the Celtics, who were reluctant to lose him in the first place, would surely try to re-acquire him. If it happens, the deal for the Wolves doesn't look quite as good without Gomes in the picture.

Hermy
08-09-2007, 03:48 PM
I'll E-mail Baghdad Keith.

WTFchris
08-09-2007, 04:03 PM
The Pistons never used the Mo Evans trade exception, so I'm not holding my breath they'll use this one, either.

http://dallasmorningviews.beloblog.com/archives/debbie_downer.jpg

WTFchris
08-09-2007, 04:04 PM
Minnesota has 17 players under contract right now.

Could this be a nice deal for Ryan Gomes? ($770K) There were rumors that they were just going to cut him, so wouldn't they rather do this?

Don't know why they'd cut him. Throw in a 2nd rounder or two with that deal if need be.

shags
08-09-2007, 09:01 PM
The trade exception is actually only 1.1 million, since Delfino was traded prior to the increase in his salary. That decreases the chances even more that it will be used.

Hermy
08-13-2007, 12:04 PM
Well, I'll be damned-


Herm (Plainwell): It looks as if we still hold a $1.8 million trade exception from the Delfino deal. Do you know if Joe Dumars is considering using it to help the team with its small forward gap?



Langlois: I doubt it, Herm. If the Pistons add anybody before training camp, I would expect it to be for a minimum deal on somebody who is interested in taking a one-year contract either to prove his market value or contend for a title – or both – which is why the two names I’ve mentioned, Jarvis Hayes and James Posey, make sense.

Glenn
08-13-2007, 12:07 PM
Translation:
"What you are suggesting is stupid, you should just shut up and listen to me."

Also, lol.

Zekyl
08-13-2007, 01:25 PM
Both of them would be good backing up Tay though. I don't know much about Hayes but Posey isn't all that bad.

WTFchris
08-13-2007, 02:41 PM
i'd be fine with either for the min.

metr0man
08-14-2007, 11:33 AM
well Posey on our team would certainly liven up future contests with the Bulls