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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2966170
Reggie Miller says he is contemplating a return to the NBA, this time with the Boston Celtics.
Glenn 08-08-2007, 01:27 PM I knew that they'd attract some gravy train vets.
Frankly, I'd love to see it happen just to see the anxiety that it would cause Pacerfan.
Glenn 08-08-2007, 01:48 PM Is my phone working?
Higherwarrior 08-08-2007, 02:19 PM http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2966170
i think it would be stupid but if he wants to, why not? it's an interesting subject. somewhere rip hamilton is licking his chops.
Timone 08-08-2007, 02:23 PM I always liked watching Reggie play (except against the Pistons), so why not? Even if it was a 15 minute reserve role.
Black Dynamite 08-08-2007, 04:43 PM I hate the Celtics, So i hope he only comes back if he's useless garbage. If he isnt stay retired.
Joe Asberry 08-08-2007, 06:14 PM now only Malone and Payton are missing to ensure we will absolutly destroy this team in the playoffs :D
Timone 08-08-2007, 06:16 PM That was a fluke.
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Is my phone working?
ROFLMAO!!
WTFchris 08-09-2007, 10:51 AM I hate ring whores. The best thing that ever happened was denying Malone and Payton their rings.
Cross 08-09-2007, 11:06 AM Joe should sign Reggie to play some sf. At one point we'd have rip and reggie using Sheed's screen:)
btw I agree with Chris
defrocked 08-09-2007, 12:03 PM This cannot be. I have just recently felt the comfort in knowing I'd never have to see him on the court ever again.
WTFchris 08-09-2007, 12:08 PM Joe should sign Reggie to play some sf. At one point we'd have rip and reggie using Sheed's screen:)
btw I agree with Chris
Could you imagine those two running around like mad men out there? Not sure if Reggie is still in shape enough to run a ton, but that would be crazy.
Black Dynamite 08-09-2007, 12:35 PM I hate ring whores.
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Glenn 08-09-2007, 01:31 PM Houston working out with eye on returning to NBA
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine
Updated: August 9, 2007, 1:03 PM ET
Reggie Miller is not the only former All-Star shooting guard considering a comeback. Allan Houston, one of the deadliest jump shooters of the past 15 years, is also looking to return to the NBA.
"It's something I'd like to do,'' Houston said in a telephone interview Thursday morning. "It's just a matter of getting myself back in game shape and getting used to playing again.''
Houston, 36, was forced into retirement in October 2005 after an arthritic left knee limited him to just 70 games over the previous two seasons. In 2002-2003, his last full season, he led the Knicks and finished 10th in the NBA with a career-high 22.5 point scoring average.
Houston, who worked as an NBA analyst for ESPN last season, said he has been working out hard for more than a month and that his knee feels great. He recently played in high-caliber (though not NBA level) summer league games in New York and plans to work out in Las Vegas with a personal basketball trainer later this month.
He would not discuss which, if any, teams have shown interest in signing him, but sources say Dallas and Cleveland headline the list of interested clubs. Boston, which has contacted Miller about a comeback, Phoenix, Miami and perhaps San Antonio, are also teams that would be logical destinations.
Out of courtesy, Houston informed Knicks owner James L. Dolan of his comeback attempt earlier this summer, and Dolan has allowed him to train at the Knicks' practice facility. It is not clear whether the Knicks would be interested in signing him, but Houston, who lives in nearby Connecticut, said he would not rule out a return to the place he played the last nine seasons of his 12-year career.
Houston, a career 17.3 point scorer, was still near the top of his game when he retired. He averaged 18.5 points in 50 games during the 2003-04 season, and while visibly struggling through knee pain, still managed to average 11.9 points in 26 minutes during his 20-game stint in 2004-05.
However, the two-time all-star and 2000 Olympic gold medalist is not expecting to return as a 20-point scorer.
"I'm looking to play a supporting role to some of these great young stars,'' Houston said. "More of a leadership role, someone who can add experience and stability late in games. I don't expect my scoring and my minutes to be what they used to, but at the same time, I'm not looking to just be a decoy out there. I'd like to have some kind of role.''
MoTown 08-09-2007, 04:33 PM I heard a rumor that Ewing, Stockton and Barkley were called by Ainge to see if they wanted to play in a supporting role as well.
Uncle Mxy 08-09-2007, 05:04 PM Latrine Peewell can't be far behind.
Big Swami 08-09-2007, 05:41 PM For a second there I thought Barney Miller was coming out of retirement and I was like "YES!"
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Zip Goshboots 08-09-2007, 06:01 PM I hate ring whores.
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Big Swami 08-09-2007, 06:57 PM BLAMMO!
Black Dynamite 08-09-2007, 08:11 PM "the list"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2967624&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1
kemp is only 38? wow that says alot about how badly he let himself go in the first place.
Penny Hardaway getting comeback chance with Heat (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Auqk8bou0IjpQSAkuH9xXuy8vLYF?slug=ap-heat-hardaway&prov=ap&type=lgns)
By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
August 9, 2007
Miami Heat center Shaquille O'Neal is defended by New York Knicks' Penny Hardaway, left, and Kurt Thomas in this Feb. 9, 2005 file photo. Hardaway and O'Neal were reunited Thursday when the Heat signed him to a contract.
AP - Aug 9, 7:19 pm EDT
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MIAMI (AP) -- Penny Hardaway and Shaquille O'Neal are together again.
The 36-year-old Hardaway, who last played an NBA game in November 2005, signed with the Miami Heat on Thursday and is reuniting with O'Neal -- his former Orlando Magic teammate back in the mid-1990s.
"Penny is a player who has been an All-Star and has enjoyed an illustrious career," Heat president Pat Riley said. "We have been impressed at his hard work and dedication this summer to get back in shape and return to the NBA. He is a skilled player who can help us in multiple positions."
The team said Hardaway wasn't available for comment. O'Neal, who has occasionally offered less-than-glowing comments about his time with Hardaway in Orlando, told the Heat he supports the move to sign his former teammate.
Hardaway, a four-time All-Star game starter, has averaged 15.4 points in his career, but hasn't finished a season averaging double digits in scoring since the 2002-03 season with Phoenix. He played in four games with the New York Knicks early in the 2005-06 campaign before succumbing to knee injuries.
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He's the second notable acquisition Miami has made during the free agent period; the team signed former Los Angeles Lakers starting point guard Smush Parker last month.
Hardaway figures to be a candidate to inherit the role similar to the one Eddie Jones held with the Heat at the end of last season, someone who can play either shooting guard or small forward. Jones agreed to two-year deal with the Dallas Mavericks last week.
Miami has spent much of the offseason looking for free agent help; the Heat tried unsuccessfully last month to sign guard Mo Williams, who remained in Milwaukee after the Bucks offered him a deal worth more than $20 million over what Miami could afford. Miami also has been in discussions about acquiring restricted free agent Mickael Pietrus from Golden State, and still could bring back James Posey -- another free agent who has spent the past two seasons with the Heat.
"I can't worry about what we don't have or what we missed out on," Heat guard Dwyane Wade said earlier this week. "We have to worry about what we can continue to get."
Somewhat surprisingly, that list includes Hardaway.
Back in his Orlando days, including the Magic's run to the NBA finals in 1995, Hardaway was the first in the triumvirate of young, high-scoring guards that O'Neal has been paired with throughout his NBA career. O'Neal teamed with Kobe Bryant with the Los Angeles Lakers, and helped Wade deliver a championship to Miami in 2006.
Hardaway and O'Neal teamed to average nearly 48 points per game in their three seasons together with Orlando -- but that duo was split more than a decade ago, when O'Neal headed to the Lakers. A year later, Hardaway was widely perceived to be the reason then-Magic coach Brian Hill was fired.
Hardaway was sent to Phoenix before the 1999-2000 season in a sign-and-trade deal for forwards Pat Garrity and Danny Manning, along with two draft picks. The Suns shipped him to the Knicks midway through the 2003-04 season, and another trade brought him back to Orlando in February 2006 -- for five whole days before the Magic waived Hardaway and his expiring $15.8 million contract.
At the time, Hardaway said he planned to continue playing. A year and a half later, he's getting that opportunity.
Updated on Thursday, Aug 9, 2007 8:32 pm, EDT
Timone 08-09-2007, 09:22 PM I don't think people give Reggie enough credit for what he does to keep himself in shape even when he's not playing basketball. I think this has something to do with him being a "cock sucking Pacer" though for nearly 20 years.
Can't wait to see Steve Kerr come back too.
Cross 08-09-2007, 10:01 PM Fuck why not bring in Jordan to play for the Bobcats as well?
Joe D could lose a few pounds and teach Stuckey some moves.
This is getting ridiculous though. I could bet you these players are not in any shape right now.
Timone 08-09-2007, 10:09 PM Jordan playing for the Bobcats? Looks like Scottie Pippen's phone actually WILL be ringing then.
I am also all for a return of Chauncey Billups.
Zip Goshboots 08-09-2007, 11:25 PM Dr. James Naismith recently announced he is going to attempt a comeback.
Timone 08-09-2007, 11:55 PM I can't wait for that, we'll have someone who can actually teach the refs the rules.
Kstat 08-11-2007, 04:50 AM shit, Van Horn is only 32???
WTFchris 08-13-2007, 09:24 AM shit, Van Horn is only 32???
He was drafted right ahead of Billups wasn't he?
Zekyl 08-13-2007, 01:22 PM LOL at Smush being called a Notable Acquisition
Glenn 08-16-2007, 04:43 PM Can a reporter/GM lure the NBA's greatest back for one more season?
By Sam Alipour
Special to Page 2
Updated: August 16, 2007, 4:29 PM ET
Straight from the pages of Hill Valley, a slew of retired ballers are rumored to be swapping couches, analyst chairs and seats at the poker table for one more squat at the scorer's table.
Sure, the league is younger and more perimeter-challenged than ever, but if graybeards like Penny Hardaway, Reggie Miller, Allan Houston and Charles Oakley make waves next season, John Travolta's comeback in "Pulp Fiction" will seem like a turn in an auto parts commercial. And if they fail? Think Chevy Chase in "Man of the House."
"I think it's mostly a product of the advancement in the science of training and therapy," explains Doug Christie, who is attempting a comeback for the second consecutive summer and claims to have benefited from his exile. "It allowed me to hone my skills and explore new parts of my game that when you're out there playing all the time, you never take the time to learn. I can't wait to get back to the NBA and show people what I've discovered."
Pal, take a number, because the wait list is growing. To test the legs on this trend, I put on my GM cap and played the role of a fictional front-office executive -- one with deep pockets and magical powers (say, George Steinbrenner meets Lord Voldermort) -- in making overtures to a number of retired players. And in some cases, really retired players.
What would it take for them to lace 'em up one more time? Check out the following excerpts from actual phone conversations.
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KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR (Bucks 1969-75, Lakers '75-89)
Occupation: Assistant coach, Lakers
Initial Reaction: Three seconds of stunned silence
Interest Level: Low (Medium for a one-game contract)
Reporter/GM: Kareem, Sam Alipour, GM of the Hill Valley Hyperdrives. We've got deep pockets and magic tricks. What would it take to get you to suit up for me next season?
Abdul-Jabbar: I think you should get your pulse checked. I'm 60 years old. Last time I played was in '95 during a tour with the Globetrotters.
Reporter/GM: But you've still got your hook shot, right?
Abdul-Jabber: I can still get my hook to fall on a regular basis, but that's it. I suppose if the Lakers really wanted me to suit up for one game, I could do that. At least it would be good for some laughs.
MARK EATON (Jazz 1982-93)
Occupation: Restaurateur
Initial Reaction: "Charles Oakley? (Laughs) I'm in."
Interest Level: Low (High if demands are met)
Demands: Bionic body parts and steroids.
Eaton: It's not an issue of money. Get me bionic parts. Specifically, I'd need a right knee, a couple of lower back vertebrae and, oh yeah, a year's supply of steroids.
Reporter/GM: Deal, as long as you bring your beard back. The Warriors are in our division, and so is Baron Davis' stubble.
Eaton: Baron Davis' beard doesn't have anything on mine. It's more of a goatee now, but I'll grow it out. Nobody would recognize me without it.
NATE MCMILLAN (Sonics 1986-98)
Occupation: Head coach, Trail Blazers
Initial Reaction: "No way."
Interest Level: Low
McMillan: There isn't enough money in the world. But tell you what, I'll play H.O.R.S.E. until I go into my grave. I'm not a great shooter, but let's just say I've taken a few of our guys' money. If there's a pro H.O.R.S.E. league somewhere, I'd play.
Reporter/GM: Nate, I need you. Come on, you don't look much older than Greg Oden.
McMillan: Let's hope he plays that way.
MYCHAL THOMPSON (Trail Blazers 1978-86, Spurs '86-87, Lakers '87-91)
Occupation: Sports radio personality
Interest Level: Low (High if demand is met)
Thompson: I'd need a time machine.
Reporter/GM: I've got a DeLoreon. Will that do?
Thompson: No, I want a spinning metallic tunnel like the one from that '60s TV show. The DeLoreon requires a road and shoots flames, so it's a fire hazard. But if you don't have a time machine, then I'd need Pat Riley. When I played for him, I had no choice but to give him 40 minutes. He ran us hard and I'm sure he could get that out of me.
DANNY MANNING (Clippers 1988-94, six other teams, retired in '03)
Occupation: Assistant coach, Kansas
Initial Reaction: A strange grunt that sounds like "hurngh"
Interest Level: Low
Demands: A contender in a warm climate, plus various perks
Manning: Seeing the game from a coaching (standpoint), I can really help lead a team. But how good is your team? And how do you take care of your players? What type of travel accommodations do you have? What type of comp'd seats do you give?
Reporter/GM: Sorry?
Manning: You know, tickets for families. And what are the rules with regard to family traveling? I've got two kids in high school. Can I bring my son with me? Those intangibles matter to me. I mean, the desire for a ring is always there, but I was blessed to be a part of a championship at Kansas and to play 15 years in the NBA. I feel good about my career --
(NOTE: Here, my cell phone battery dies. Seriously. Sorry, Danny)
PAUL SILAS (St. Louis 1964-68, Suns '69-72, Celtics '72-76, retired in '80)
Occupation: TV analyst
Initial Reaction: "(Laughter) No. Way."
Demands: A fountain of youth
Interest Level: Low
Silas: The last time I touched a ball was 15 years ago at an NBA Legends tournament in New York. I was 50 years old and I played three games, and for two weeks after, I literally couldn't move. My knees gave out. I was gasping for air. It was just a horrible experience.
Reporter/GM: Coach, you're in luck: I've found a fountain of youth! It's in our weight room.
Silas: If you found the fountain of youth, I've always been partial to the Celtics. I'm sure I can still rebound the basketball. That's something I haven't lost.
CRAIG HODGES (Clippers 1982-84, Bucks '84-88, Bulls '89-92)
Occupation: Lakers assistant coach
Interest Level: High
Hodges: I'd consider it in a heartbeat. From '92 until now, nobody shoots the ball better than I did. I still shoot my 150 3s a day. There are a lot of teams I can still help.
Reporter/GM: I like you Craig, but why should I take you over Reggie Miller or Allan Houston?
Hodges: No diss on Reggie or Penny, but my question (to them) is, do you know how to win an NBA championship? At the end of the season, who will be standing? I challenge these cats who are coming back to check my stats in terms of winning. Whether it's 3-point contests or championships, I know how to win. Reggie, on the real, last time I saw you hoopin' on the NBA level, you got your motherf----- shot blocked on a breakaway layup that you (didn't) dunk. Last time you saw Craig Hodges, I won a championship. Reggie can come back and be successful, but will he win? What's going on down the stretch, brother? We can all come back because we can see how watered-down (the league) is. It's so sickening to watch this s---.
Reporter/GM: Will it be a problem for you if we don't run the triangle?
Hodges: I'm going to tell you something: When MJ came back, how ugly did his game look outside the triangle? Outside the triangle, Scottie looked ugly. B.J. Armstrong? Ugly. The only one who didn't look ugly? Steve Kerr. Why? He's a shooter. I can knock down Js. Forget the system.
EDDIE JOHNSON (six teams, 1987-99)
Occupation: Radio/TV analyst for Phoenix Suns
Initial Reaction: "Oh, OK, hold on … that's interesting."
Interest Level: Medium (High if demands are met)
Demands: A contender, a spot in rotation, and "a couple million" dollars
Johnson: I think I can still outshoot anybody in the NBA. And if I play better than you expected, give me a little bonus at the end of the year.
Reporter/GM: That's something we can discuss later. But here's a bonus for you: If you come back, maybe it'll remind people that you're not the Eddie Johnson who was arrested (on suspicion of assault in '06).
Johnson: You've got that right! I'm still correcting people to this day.
JUD BUECHLER (Nets 1991-92, Spurs '92, Warriors '92-94, Bulls '95-98, retired in '02)
Occupation: Surfing, yoga, and coaching daughter's club volleyball team in San Diego
Initial Reaction: Extended laughter
Interest Level: Low (High if demands are met)
Demands: A west coast team and $2-5 million per year.
Buechler: My legs are terrible, so I can hardly get the ball to the rim, but I can still play defense.
Reporter/GM: When was the last time you played?
Buechler: Two years ago at a summer league game against the Tijuana Dragons. This one guy tried to go at me every time down the floor. Little did he know I made a living guarding All-Stars like Jordan and Pippen; some guy out of Tijuana isn't going to get by me. So the guy actually wanted to fight me during the game. I was like, 'You know what? I don't need this in my life.' The only things I miss about the NBA are per diem and naps.
KENNY ANDERSON (Nets 1991-96, Blazers '96-98, six other teams)
Occupation: Head coach, CBA's Atlanta Krunk
Initial Reaction: "That's crazy."
Interest Level: Low (High if demands are met)
Demands: A "Roger Clemens deal," 30 minutes per game, and playing for San Antonio, Phoenix or Dallas
Anderson: My dream is to get into the other side and start coaching (in the NBA.) But if you pull one of those Roger Clemens deals out, so I can skip training camp and just show up for games, then I'm in.
Reporter/GM: We've already got a coach: Master P. We'll be a contender, but what if I can't get you the minutes you're looking for?
Anderson: I would love to get a ring, but I also want to be a part of it. I'd only take less minutes to play for the Suns. I respect Steve Nash a lot, so I'd settle for 15 (minutes).
JONATHAN BENDER (Pacers 1999-2005)
Occupation: Real estate entrepreneur and TV/music producer
Initial Reaction: "(Sigh) Man, I haven't thought about that yet."
Demands: A warm weather city (easier for rehabbing his knees)
Interest Level: Low
Bender: Right now, I'm just thinking about rehabbing. Maybe in a few years I'd consider it.
Reporter/GM: But you're 25 years old and retired. I can throw a lot of money at you.
Bender: A lot of guys come back because they're having money issues. I'm a young guy, but I have real estate projects, I'm helping to rebuild New Orleans, but I'm also having the type of fun you have when you're 25 and retired.
MARK PRICE (Cavs 1986-95, Bullets '95-96, Warriors '96-97, Magic '97-98)
Occupation: Teaching shooting fundamentals to NBA players at Suwanee Sports Academy in Atlanta.
Initial Reaction: "Um … (laughs) … well … (laughs) … thanks for fluffing up the ego."
Interest Level: Medium (High if demand is met)
Price: What's the veteran minimum, now? $1.2 million? That's a lot of money. Is your team a contender?
Reporter/GM: Sure, we've got some Hall of Famers. What type of minutes can you give me?
Price: I like what Reggie (Miller) said about 18-20 minutes a game. That'd be it for me. Shooting is like riding a bike. A lot of guys in the league are struggling shooting the ball. Players are coming into the league earlier and we're not getting the teaching along the way. So there's a need for guys who are fundamentally sound. While we're at it, a guy who I was teammates with, Kevin Johnson, probably has some game left in him. Try him, too.
Reporter/GM: Not interested.
DENNIS RODMAN (Pistons 1986-93, Spurs '93-95, Bulls '95-98, Lakers '99, Mavs 2000)
Occupation: Celebrity
Interest Level: Low
Reporter/GM: Any chance you'll come back, or is it over?
Rodman: I wish it wasn't over, but I'm done with the NBA. That situation with the Lakers when they made a bogus excuse and said I left my shoes at the hotel, I was like, 'Really? OK, whatever.' Me and David Stern never saw eye to eye anyway. I don't think he or the NBA respected what I was. They let everybody come back, but when I wanted to come back, it was impossible. I thought, 'Wow, I thought I was one of the best players to ever play the game.' But I don't get that respect. So I thought, great, basketball hasn't made me famous anyway. It made me visible, but everything I've done outside of basketball, that made me famous. I don't give a ****. I'm still playing around the world, having a good time."
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MoTown 08-16-2007, 05:19 PM Pacerfan: "It was funny until they talked to Jonathan Bender. They went way overboard with that. He's the next KG. I demand an apology."
Bender for ROY 2009.
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