Post the rumor and a link if possible.

Word has it the Wizards and Suns are discussing a Jamison-Shawn Marion swap as well.

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/06192007/sports/missed_deadline_may_haunt_lewis_sports_peter_vecse y.htm

Cavs blog guy says this is not really a rumor, but it's a good example of what the Cavs might be thinking.

Some other good info here too: http://blogs.ohio.com/cavaliers_blog/2007/06/the_offseason_b.html


--Do you know the Cavs could trade Damon Jones, Ira Newble and David Wesley for up to an $11.1 million player while the other team would only be responsible for around $4.6 million in actual dollars next season. Dude, read the story. Those guys are assets, trust me.

UPDATE: I've gotten some e-mails because some people aren't understanding this (which is why you should read the story). The Cavs can and will kick in as much as $3 million in any deal. Wesley, Jones and Newble combined cap numbers are about about $9.4 million next season (add the 20 percent rule in trade and you get a little over $11 million in return value potential). Reduce the Wesley buyout plus the payment and hard cash due to cover the Cavs players is close to $4.6-$4.8 million depending on some things. Now, here's where I should point out that the Phoenix Suns love Drew Gooden, they spent all last summer trying to get him. Plus they really want to kill payroll and have been floating Shawn Marion's name. That's not a rumor, OK, that's just me thinking out loud. By the way, new Suns GM Steve Kerr and Danny Ferry are tight.

Another interesting piece of info from Cavs_blog_guy:


--Dan Gilbert has cleared Danny Ferry to go into the luxury tax. By the way, this is no small feat. Just ask some other GMs.

First time that I've ever been jealous of what Gilbert is doing with the Cavs.

If the Cavs can swap Gooden and expirings for Marion that will be scary.

yeah but the Cavs still need to get a point guard. Since the Cavs were pretty high on Banks last off season, I'll assume Marion and Banks probably go to Cle together. Kerr would then be praised like no other for getting rid of his worst contract on the team.

Would Kerr really give LeBron smoeone like Marion though?

Would Kerr really give LeBron smoeone like Marion though?
Why not? It's not in his conference, and the Spurs already proved that the East is pretty pathetic at this point.

The Los Angeles Clippers also appear to be discussing trading forward James Singleton (6-8, 215 pounds) to the Rockets in a deal that would involve Lucas.

And the Los Angeles Lakers are contemplating a deal involving Head in exchange for power forward Brian Cook (6-9, 250 pounds).

The new staff also seems to like the offense 6-10 forward Steve Novak will bring, and the Rockets have the means to finagle salary-cap room by dealing guard Bob Sura. There's also the mid-level exception available to the Rockets.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/lopez/4904423.html

Well I'd think Sheed for Head and Battier would be better than Head for Cook and the 19 or whatever pick the Lakers have.


Latest Kevin Garnett trade rumor: The Wolves send the 31-year-old all-star to the Phoenix Suns in a convoluted three-way deal with the Boston Celtics that includes Shawn Marion going to Boston and Minnesota getting the No. 5 pick from the Celtics, plus several young players. The Wolves already have the No. 7 overall pick in the June 28 draft. It's unclear, though, how Garnett's $22 million salary would match up for the deal.

http://www.twincities.com/walters

Not really trust worthy, but it makes sense

I'd love the idea of us picking up Head. That would solve our backup guard problems right there. Not sure what exactly they'd want for him though.

No link, sorry, I just saw this on ESPN News.

Word is that the TWolves had a KG deal worked out with the Celtics and they took it to KG who said he didn't want to go to Boston. (He can opt out next year, so any team that acquires him will want to make sure that he WANTS to come).

KG wants to go to Phoenix, apparently.

An update to that story claims that the TWolves would want Amare and PHX's 2008 1st from Atl included in the deal.

The trade was Al Jefferson, Wally, Theo Ratliffs expiring contract, Telfair and the 5th.

I think Minny would have accepted that butKG did not.

The trade was Al Jefferson, Wally, Theo Ratliffs expiring contract, Telfair and the 5th.

I think Minny would have accepted that butKG did not.

So they would have been KG, Pierce and a bunch of NBDL guys?

I guess they'd still have this:

PG Allen/West
SG Pierce/Ray
SF Gomes/Green
PF KG/Scalabrine
C Perkins/Kandi

Not steller, but not as bad as I thought.

An update to that story claims that the TWolves would want Amare and PHX's 2008 1st from Atl included in the deal.




Steve Kerr would'nt make that trade.


Mike D'Antoni will never be a championship coach.


You can't win playing that way.

I guess they'd still have this:

PG Allen/West
SG Pierce/Ray
SF Gomes/Green
PF KG/Scalabrine
C Perkins/Kandi

Not steller, but not as bad as I thought.



I don't know if you listen to 1270, but Mike Valenti was raving how that lineup would be "unstoppable" in the East. Even though it's not going to happen, if it did I don't think the Celtics would be very good with that lineup. Pierece is hardly considered a "superstar" the market he plays in makes him look bigger than he really is. And of course they got the almighty Doc Rivers leading them to Victory, not sure how promising that turns out. That Celtics team would win 44 or 45 games and lose in the 1st round.


And be on ABC every Sunday afternoon.

In the East I would rate that team as a top 4 seed. I think they'd win 50 games or close to it. I also think they'd lose in the 2nd round to a team that playes sound defense. but that team is as good as Toronto for sure.

I don't know what all the "hype" is about Toronto, people seem to fall in love with this team, but I'm not high on them. They have a legit superstar in Bosh, but past that, it's just a bunch of swingmen and 35% shooters. They may win the Atlantic, but they sure as hell ain't gettin out of Rd. 2


And I don't see Carlos Delfino "thriving" in that offense either, now that he get's to fill Mo-Pete's shoes. If there's teams us Pistons' fans should be worried about as "up and coming" it's the Bulls, not the Raptors.

That's why I think Boston would win that thing with the lineup I posted.

I guess they'd still have this:

PG Allen/West
SG Pierce/Ray
SF Gomes/Green
PF KG/Scalabrine
C Perkins/Kandi

Not steller, but not as bad as I thought.

I don't think you can forget Rajon Rondo. Good defender, excellent at stealing and can pass well. He got PT after Allen went down. I don't think Allen will ever be the same and at this point, I think it's safe to way Rondo might start. I was thinking something like...

Rondo/West
Allen/Gerald Green
Pierce/Green/Gomes
KG/Gomes
Perkins/Kandi

This team is easily better than the Raps imo, making it a top4team.

Lots of good rumors out there this morning.

One of the most interesting ones has Vince Carter resigning with the Nets for 4 yrs/$60m and then Jefferson getting traded to Portland for Zach Randolph.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2007/06/24/2007-06-24_the_lonely_wolf.html

How much better does that make them? They play up-tempo ball. Can Zach Randolph play in an uptempo system? On the other hand, he gives them the inside presence they needed. Cliffy is an outside guy, Krstic was looking pretty good but he was injured for a chunk of the season wasn't he? Was he a low-block player though? I could see this pushing them over the top, but I could also see it blowing up in their face. It all depends on what style of play they go with.

NJ doesn't play up-tempo. They'll run when they can, but they're primarily a half-court set team that was killed by the lack of big men to kick into.

Wow, shows how much of the Nets I saw this year. I guess I was thinking of when they had Kenyon and they ran all over us.

I thought the RJ for Randolph rumors got shotdown weeks ago.

Wasn't RJ the untouchable on the team? Now it looks like RJ is the oddman out...

The Toronto Raptors have been trying to find backup point guard Jose Calderon a new home.

Once free agency starts, the Raptors have their mid-level exception set aside for the Golden State Warriors' Mickael Pietrus, who could start for them next season at small forward.

Looks like Calderon's going to get traded and Dixon will remain. Calderon in a Pistons uniform would have been really nice.


Teams are actively trying to pry big men Nene and Marcus Camby away from the Denver Nuggets, but the team won't deal Nene. However, the Nuggets are patiently, calmly waiting for a trade partner to make an offer they cannot refuse for Camby.

The Atlanta Hawks have an eye on Camby, dangling either 6-foot-11 Zaza Pachulia or guard Marvin Williams as trade bait.



Cleveland Cavaliers guard Sasha Pavlovic is a restricted free agent, meaning the Cavs can match any offer that he receives.

However, that does not mean that they will. The Cavs might allow him to leave if a team gives him a lucrative offer.

Daniel Gibson had a much better showing in the playoffs than Pavlovic, and the Cavs might believe they can replace Pavlovic and save some cap room to keep Anderson Varejao (a restricted free agent) or sign a guard such as the Denver Nuggets' Steve Blake.


Dude couldn't make a layup to save his life.

Why do they get rid of Calderon, again?

Had we gotten Calderon for Delfino, I'd have been giddy.

New Jersey Nets President Rod Thorn reiterated that the Nets have had "no conversations" with the Portland Trailblazers regarding power forward Zach Randolph, who has a low post offense the Nets could sorely use.

Another league source said a deal for Randolph that could involve Richard Jefferson is not completely far-fetched, although he terms it as having a "long, long shot" of getting done.



Kevin Garnett did his best to shoot down a rumored trade that would have sent him from the Minnesota Timberwolves to the Boston Celtics for Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, the No. 5 pick and filler.

Garnett reportedly prefers a trade to the Phoenix Suns. However, according to a league source, if Minnesota decides not to trade Garnett, they may try to swing a deal for Sacramento Kings forward Ron Artest.


The Chicago Bulls are said to be shopping their No. 9 pick and Denver Nuggets forward Marcus Camby is a possibility, with the Nuggets likely to cut payroll by making Camby available.

The deal would have to include Bulls forward P.J. Brown in a sign-and-trade for one guaranteed season.

Jesus Christ, I cannot stop laughing at this -

Kevin Garnett shoots down the Celtics trade, as phrased by Yay Basketball. (http://www.yaysports.com/nba/2007/06/kevin_garnett_is_scared_of_leprechauns.html)

just heard the latest KG rumor on ESPN:

Hawks get Amare Stoudamire, Phoenix gets Kevin Garnett, Minnesota gets the #3, #11, and some other "cap friendly" players.

That actually makes a ton of sense for everyone involved. Minny gets younger fast, clears some cap room. The Hawks get the young big man they drastically need to go with all of their young wings. Phoenix gets one of the best players in the NBA to play with Nash.

just heard the latest KG rumor on ESPN:

Hawks get Amare Stoudamire, Phoenix gets Kevin Garnett, Minnesota gets the #3, #11, and some other "cap friendly" players.

jesus how many lottery picks do the Wolves want in this draft?

and Atlanta does not scare me if they pull off that trade. Without a point guard, the team is shit.

and Atlanta does not scare me if they pull off that trade. Without a point guard, the team is shit.

I don't think they are title caliber, but you have to think they are better than Toronto, Miami, Washington and New Jersey at the very least.

latest rumor:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2919016


The Wolves have contacted the Charlotte Bobcats to try to help facilitate a deal for Garnett, one day after a potential three-way deal with the Phoenix Suns and the Atlanta Hawks hit a roadblock.

According to sources, the Wolves are asking the Bobcats to give up the No. 8 pick along with an undisclosed player. In the proposed deal, Garnett would go to Phoenix, and the Suns would send Amare Stoudemire to Charlotte. The Bobcats would also be required to take Suns guard Marcus Banks.

The Bobcats have been offering the No. 8 pick to various teams for weeks and have several offers. If they can't get something worked out with Minnesota and Phoenix before the draft, the Bobcats will likely move the pick in another deal, a source said.

minny sounds desperate. i'd say adam morrison, sean may, and the #8 pick, and no more.

incidentally, that would possible put charlotte in a high playoff spot, if they can find someone to play the 2 1/2 way decently.

I guess McHale said last night after the draft that KG will not be traded.

DEAL MAY OPEN DOOR FOR ISIAH TO MAKE A RUN AT ARTEST

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07032007/sports/knicks/deal_may_open_door_for_isiah_to_make_a_run_at_arte st_knicks_marc_berman.htm

The agent hath spoken...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/03/yi.trade.ap/index.html?eref=si_nba


Agent: Yi seeking trade from Bucks

SHANGHAI, China (AP) -- Yi Jianlian's Chinese agent says he's talking to other teams about a possible trade away from Milwaukee.

Yi, the Bucks' top pick, has refused to talk about the prospect of playing for Milwaukee after he was picked sixth overall in last week's NBA draft.

However, Yi's agent Zhao Gang was quoted as telling the official China Daily newspaper that he was already in contact with other franchises that have expressed an interest in the 19-year-old power forward.

"His representatives and I won't sit here and do nothing just because he was picked by Milwaukee," Zhao was quoted as saying.

"We are considering Yi's future at the Bucks and are looking at trade possibilities," Zhao said.

Agent Dan Fegan pushed for Yi to go to a city with a heavy Asian influence. According to census data, Milwaukee has a little more than 1,200 Chinese residents.

Yi is in Dallas with the China National Senior Team for two exhibition games. He said Monday that he was looking forward to playing against the Dallas Mavericks Summer Team on Tuesday. But he declined for the second straight day to talk about the NBA.

"I don't want to talk about that," he said and walked away from reporters.

Yi courted controversy before the draft when access to his workouts was tightly restricted to just a few teams. There have even been questions about his true age, with some reports putting his birth year as early as 1984, partly because sports authorities are known to report their players as younger than they actually are to keep them eligible for junior competitions.

Yi's apparent disappointment with being picked by Milwaukee contrasted strikingly with fellow China national team member Sun Yue's delight at his selection by the Los Angeles Lakers. Sun was the 40th player selected.

GSW makes a lot of sense.

zeke wants artest. that would be awesome.

According to a league source, the Sacramento Kings recently contacted the Orlando Magic about Hedo Turkoglu. The small forward, entering his eighth season, began his career in Sacramento in 2000 and was part of a three-team trade in 2003 that sent him to the San Antonio Spurs.

The most likely King to be offered in a deal would be small forward Ron Artest.


Makes no sense for the Magic unless Rashard shifts to the 4.


According to league sources, the Washington Wizards are considering possible trades involving centers Etan Thomas and Brendan Haywood.

However, a source indicated that Thomas's contract contains a hefty trade kicker that would push his salary to about $7.3 million next season, and that has caused several teams to reconsider trade proposals for the veteran center.

The Nets and Pacers were talking trades (per ESPN):

JO for RJ, Kristic, and Collins

This is again a stupid trade for the Pacers unless they want to see RJ playing the 2, or Granger playing the 4, both are not their natural positions,

Haven't look at their contracts, and I pretty much hate all of the players involved, but if I'm Indy, I take that deal in a second.

I might even do JO for BabyEars straight up, if you throw in Kristic, then it's a no-brainer IMO. I'm assuming that Collins has a bad contract, I'll check it out later.

JO is a puss and has done nothing but get injured and whine for years now.

And, you know, finish third in MVP voting.

Haven't look at their contracts, and I pretty much hate all of the players involved, but if I'm Indy, I take that deal in a second.

I might even do JO for BabyEars straight up, if you throw in Kristic, then it's a no-brainer IMO. I'm assuming that Collins has a bad contract, I'll check it out later.

JO is a puss and has done nothing but get injured and whine for years now.

I agree. They are not going to win the title in Indy anytime soon. Move JO and get a young very good player in RJ.

RJ is two years younger than JO.

Seems like he is more. JO has a lot more wear and tear on him though.

4 years of riding the bench in Portland.

These are his injuries from just last season (some are not injuries, but I included them to show the complete report):


Mar 28, 2007 Left knee an ankle sprain
Feb 08, 2007 Swollen left knee
Dec 26, 2006 Flu symptoms
Dec 09, 2006 Sore left hamstring
Nov 09, 2006 Sore left ankle
Mar 30, 2006 Groin soreness
Jan 26, 2006 Left groin tear - out 8 weeks
Jan 15, 2006 Ankle
Jan 04, 2006 DND - Pneumonia
Plus he's had numerious other knee injuries

Oh, he's injured all the time no doubt. Everyone on that team is. Shitty trainers.

JO is the last major reminder (Tinsley not considered major) of the "old Pacers". They need to start fresh, for the sake of their image and salability (fan support).

There are a lot of Pacer fans that are completely disgusted with that franchise right now (based on what I have read on Pacer fan sites).

Bird/Walsh deserve a lot of blame for that, make no mistake, but Jefferson is someone that they can at least sell to their fans as an exciting player that doesn't get in trouble.

According to multiple league sources, the New Jersey Nets were "very close" to completing a three-team trade that would have landed Lamar Odom from the Los Angeles Lakers while sending Richard Jefferson to the Charlotte Bobcats. The Lakers, in turn, would have received Gerald Wallace from Charlotte.

One source insisted Charlotte part-owner Michael Jordan squashed the deal.

I hear a Alston for Haslem trade going on, which makes sense for both sides.

Then a Pietrus for Posey.

Heat would look much better with those aquisitions but all in all, they really have no chance of contending

Can someone with Insider post what Bucher said in his chat today about Artest to the Knicks?

Thanks.

That no deal was ever even close, the Kings aren't going to trade Artest...

I hear a Alston for Haslem trade going on, which makes sense for both sides.

Then a Pietrus for Posey.

Heat would look much better with those aquisitions but all in all, they really have no chance of contending


IDK, how does losing Haslem help MIA??? They already have a backup PG in Smush Parker and with Shaq's health always in question, you can't count on him playing all 82, and Zo doesn't have much left...they'd have to put Fattoine at the 4..

not sure if they do that for a guy who would probably platoon with Williams and Parker

C- Shaq/Zo/Doleac
PF- Walker
SF- Wright?/Simien/Cook
SG- Wade/Quinn
PG- Alston/Williams/Parker


yuck..that depth chart may not even win 40

Well the idea was before the Smush signing.

If it happened and there was no Smush signing, they could roll something with

Shaq/Zo
Walker/Simien
Pietrus/Wright
Wade
Alston/Jason Williams

I alwyas thought of Simien as a 4 because thats what he played in Kansas.

I hear a Alston for Haslem trade going on, which makes sense for both sides.
Maybe not:

http://www.click2houston.com/sports/13826835/detail.html

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How does that work for both teams? What does Miami have inside? Is Simeon going to pan out?

How does that work for both teams? What does Miami have inside? Is Simeon going to pan out?

Is he ever given the chance?

I honestly wanted the Pistons to draft Simien over Maxiell in 2005 and got pissed that we passed up on Simien.

There were alot of Halsem rumors, and i THINK I read it as Haslem wants out.

The problem in Miami is Fatione. He's taking PF minutes that Simien would be getting.

Now that he knows KG isn't going to be there and that there is a lot of losing in the immediate future, Juwan requests a trade.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/1357675-p2.html

Bibby to the Heat? This makes the Smush signing kind of weird.

A potential jwill,Simien, and Wright for Bibby?

This would be the only trade that makes sense unless there is some 3way behind it. The Kings would be left without a pg if they don't take in Jwill, their only option in a trade.

or this could lead into a rebuild situation where they trade Brad Miller,Artest, and SAR.

An Artest trade to the Knicks would make alot of sense.

Would they want J Will back there?

Probably not, but if they make no other trades, they have no real starting point guard

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/1407038-p2.html


The Wolves are trying to satisfy forward Juwan Howard, who has asked to be traded because he had agreed to be traded here from the Houston Rockets because of the opportunity to play with Kevin Garnett. Now that Garnett has been traded to the Boston Celtics, Howard wants to play elsewhere. He has named three teams he would prefer to play with, but so far none of the three have offered what the Wolves believe would be adequate trade value.

Got to believe that the Bulls are one of the three (Juwan is from Chicago) but I wonder who the other two are?

I've always loved his sweet homemade "Dr. J" tat.

Probably the Mavs and or Nets?