Ok, I'm amazed no one has made a thread like this yet. We all know its a slim-to-none chance of ever happening but this is "Fun with trade ideas", right?

With all of these trades, I'm not sure what picks would have to be included, so you can argue about that amongst yourselves.

1. The Obvious - Sheed and Rip for Garnett

Garnett gets a chance to go for a championship on a contender. Minny gets two All-Star quality players in return. Rip is still relatively young.


2. Sheed, Rip, Nazr for Garnett and Ricky Davis

I know that no one really likes Davis, but he's a solid shooting guard with not much time left on his contract (either 1 or 2 years). After losing Rip we need to bring in someone to be our starter and if we took a SG with the #15 I doubt he'd be ready to start as a rookie. Maybe let Davis play for a year and then let #15 step in after he's got some time under his belt. Again, Minny gets two All-Star guys, and they get some needed extra depth in the frontcourt. Nazr isn't as horrid as we all say he is. Maybe on a new team he fits in a bit better and plays up to his contract.

3. Sheed and Rip for Garnett and McCants

Picks would obviously be a big factor here. McCants would be the young backup we need, maybe even becoming our starter. He's young, he's been injured, maybe he comes in looking to prove himself in the league.

4. Sheed, Rip, Murray/Delfino/Hunter (if he's retiring) for Garnett and McCants

Same as 3 but less draft pick compensation needed. They get whichever of the 3 they want. Murray if they prefer a slasher-type. Delfino if they want someone for defense who can handle the ball a bit (he did it for Argentina, we just never let him play that way it seems). Hunter if he's retiring and his contract would come off the books and give them some cap space.

I guess if Billups leaves we could involve Mike James in this, but I'd rather not get rid of Rip if we're losing Billups too, and I wouldn't see James as the answer at all.





Opinions?

I'd love it but regarding the first deal...could you really consider this a championship contender without Rip or Rasheed?

I'd love it but regarding the first deal...could you really consider this a championship contender without Rip or Rasheed?
Holy shit that was fast. I posted, refreshed, and there was already a response, haha.

I think so, if we bring back Billups. We'd still have Billups and Prince AND we have Garnett's "I will destroy the world and own everyone that tries to guard me" attitude. Plus we would still have a few draft picks and whoever we get from the MLE. Ricky Davis isn't the best of options but if we can keep his attitude in check, even just a little bit, he's still a pretty good player.

Yeah, I didn't realize we'd be giving Rasheed up for a better player at the same position til about a second ago.

As for Ricky...don't mind him.

I think Ricky's done some stupid things, but so has Rasheed. Ricky's are far less often. The one that stuck out to me was when he layed it off the glass on his own basket to try to get a rebound and a triple double. It doesn't count as a rebound when you shoot at your own basket man! I'd take him, though.

That was fucking hilarious. I remember Bob Sura doing the same thing too. He's been relatively quiet over the past couple years so why not?

If Delfino could really establish himself as a defensive presence at SG, this (Rip/Sheed for Garnett) could potentially work well (although I don't know what we would do at C since I doubt Webber returns).

I'd really like to see how Delfino would handle being given a consistent role at SG for us. Especially if something like this deal went down. He's a great facilitator based on everything I've heard about his combo guard days, and maybe he'd get more out of Garnett getting doubled in the post. Let him and a rookie battle for the spot. As for a C, we'd still have Nazr who never really clicked with Sheed but may fit better with Garnett, who knows, and we could draft a C or bring in someone with the MLE. Not sure who the FA centers are this summer. I'd rather not count on Nazr but I think he could do decent if we had no other choice.

Nazr would just have to stand there and look cute, that rebound is KG's!!

As for Delfino, the only flaws I see in his game are an inconsistent shooting touch and the inability to finish in traffic. However if he gets those kinks worked out he could be Ginobili at least, minus the you know what.

I think you do the Rip/Sheed thing. Then pick a PG and a C and sign Hill or MoPete with the MLE.

That gives you a pretty good setup.

Well judging from what Dumars said, all we need to do right now is hope and pray 'Sheed and Rip both fuck up majorly around the All Star Break in '08.

Starting lineup?

Billups
Hill
Prince
Garnett
Nazr

Could hill play SG? Would we actually have to bring in a new SG? Would we be better off starting Delfino (if he can prove he can handle it) and bringing Hill off the bench as the backup to Prince and Delfino?

Think of Amir learning from KG in practice?

I would rather take a PG or SG (Stuckey?) and let he and Delfino battle for the starting spot. Then, we could sign Grant and use him as a super sub of sorts instead of a starter.

I would have no problems with that whatsoever. I don't really know much about Stuckey though. Would he be good enough to fight for a starting spot coming in? This is where I wish we could put a package together to move up and get a sure-thing SG or swingman in the draft. If we could somehow pull that off I'd do this deal faster than you can blink.

What about a guy like Nick Young? All the skills, just needs to work on the attitude. He should still be there when we're picking?

Billups
Young/Delfino
Prince
KG
Nazr/Rookie/MLE?

I'd still rather find a way to move up and get Julian Wright or Corey Brewer if we made this deal. Anything else we can throw into this trade to get Minny to swap us picks? Maybe we give them both firsts in the deal and we get the #7. We could use that to pick up our SG or pick up a big man to play next to Garnett and include Nazr in a package for a servicable SG to compete with Delfino.

No way could we get Garnett without giving up picks.

Yeah, I thought about that. Never know. This is the era of 30 cents on the dollar trades for superstars. Maybe we pick up a bad contract in the deal and keep the picks? We throw in Nazr, they throw in Hudson or Jaric.

Nazr's just as bad a contract as either.

Nazr's a big. Some people don't think he's all that bad. Decent bigs are much harder to come by.

I doubt the Wolves really look at us. No way does a line up of:

Blount
Sheed
Draft pick
Rip
Foye

Get you into the playoffs in the west

I don't know, Rip and Sheed might be more fired up going elsewhere, I think it's highly possible they could reach the playoffs. Foye's pretty solid, and maybe they could go with McCants at SG and Rip at SF or vice versa. It really depends on what they do at that SG/SF spot.

That team will not beat the Mavs, spurs, suns, jazz, warriors.Who on that team will stop Melo? Iverson? James will get raped by Chris Paul while Sheed owns every one else on the Hornets.

Well the West is all over the place right now. A team like the Blazers might be very good while the team like the Lakers may be the next Grizzlies.

I doubt the Wolves really look at us. No way does a line up of:

Blount
Sheed
Draft pick
Rip
Foye

Get you into the playoffs in the west
Exactly... this is the biggest problem with message board deals... they rarely consider the impact on the other side.... if you put yourself in the other GM's shoes... is this the best you can get?... and what is the financial implications.

Pretty sure KG could fetch a Hershel Walker type deal (lots of talent and prospects at the same time).... the only thing that would change this is if KG put out an ultimatum or Taylor decided to blow it up for tax reasons.

No way could we get Garnett without giving up picks.

I agree. we'd have to give 2 of our top 4 players and #15. Otherwise they look the other way. Chicago would offer Thomas and Hinrich plus #9 which would be better than RIP/Sheed.

I would trade Rip/Sheed 15 for Thomas Hinrich 9

Chicago would never do that though. I could see them moving Kirk for a star SG and playing Gordon at PG though.

I never thought they would. That would be stupid of them. Although, it could very well push them over the top as an Eastern Conference favorite.

Gordon
Rip
Deng
Sheed
Ben

I'd have to think that would be a damn good lineup.

That's 3/5 of our championship lineup.

Yeah, plus Deng is pretty good, in case you guys didn't notice. And Gordon isn't as good as Billups, but he's kind of like a younger version. He's a shooter, he can drive the basket, he's built like a PG but plays like a SG. I think that team would do pretty well out of the east, but the bulls would never want to give up the youth.