View Full Version : Trade idea: Det and Phx
Cross 06-08-2007, 01:46 PM With the new possible rumor of Amare to Detroit, I thought of this.
And it is going to take alot to get Amare.
While Hamilton and Sheed for Amare is not going to work, Phoenix needed to add alot, to not break up anything BIG.
Ripp
Sheed
for
Amare
Raja Bell
james Jones
Marcus Banks
Well with Richard Hamilton coming into play, Bell really has no where to go. Although I read an article a while ago about Bell being just as important as Nash and Amare are, most gms would take rip and Barbosa over Bell. The suns would have to split minutes between Nash, Diaw, Barbosa, and rip at the guard spots.
Oh boy do the Pistons get alot. Cuts would have to be made but this would be a great offseason so far. We get a back up point and someone to back up Tay. Although not the best, it comes easy, through one trade. James Jones is done after this season. while Bell and Banks have alot more years remaining. If Joe is not satisfied with what he gets throughout the draft, we still have the MLE
Amare/#15
Dice/Max/Amir
Tay/James Jones/MLE?
Bell/Delfino/murray/#27?
Billups/Murray/pick?/MLE?
There are still lots of holes but this team would be pretty scary. Our inside D gets a little worse but we gain somuch on offense.
Thoughts?
Glenn 06-08-2007, 01:51 PM Diaw doesn't get guard minutes anymore, does he?
I'd try to work something with Sheed (maybe even straight up for Amare) and try to keep Rip out of this.
I don't want anything to do with Marcus Banks and that contract, either (sorry Pharaoh).
I like Raja Bell's smarts, toughness and defense, though.
Phoenix has draft picks, too.
Glenn 06-08-2007, 01:54 PM Also, keep in mind that PHX needs to save money now, so while replacing Amare with Sheed helps them in a couple of years, it doesn't lessen their tax burden quite as much as they might want (about $1m, which is $2m with the "doubling effect").
I think any trade with PHX will have them saving the most amount of $ coming back as possible.
Cross 06-08-2007, 01:56 PM I would imagine Diaw gets minutes at every position...
I like how Bell can easily be our best 3 point shooterbut that may change as he won't get as many open looks.
It'd be interesting to see what Kerr does
Glenn 06-08-2007, 02:02 PM Just FYI, PHX has almost $20m more on the books for 2007-08 than the Pistons do.
Pistons stand at $58.8m even if you include options on Dice, Murray, Dupree and Blalock. This number also assumes Billups non-opt out salary, since that's still on the books.
PHX is at $77.1m and that only assumes Kurt Thomas' $8.1m option (which he would be stupid to not exercise).
$77 million for only 10 players is just crazy!
Uncle Mxy 06-08-2007, 03:45 PM I really doubt they trade Raja Bell.
For that matter, I really doubt that they'd trade Amare.
WTFchris 06-08-2007, 03:55 PM If they really want to avoid the tax, they'll have to trade somebody. They are already at the tax level and two first round picks to add. They sure gave Diaw a lot of money (9 mil a season). I suspect they are looking at the following offseason when Marion becomes a FA. How can they resign him with Nash, Amare, Diaw, Barbosa, Banks and Bell taking up 51 mil in salaries? They probably realize that they can't keep both Amare and Marion. So they might as well trade one. My guess is they'd trade Marion, but then he's harder to trade as well (being a 16 mil SF). If you are a team looking at Marion, why not get Lewis for half the price?
micknugget 06-08-2007, 08:59 PM Not to pee in anyone's cereal here but as the voice of reason, remember that Amare did have a major knee injury at a young age and giving away half of the team to get him could be a major catastrophe if he were to get hurt again.
That being said, i'd still like to see him in a Pistosn uniform but stay somewhat leary of exactly how much to give up to get him.
detroitsportscity 06-08-2007, 10:26 PM Not to pee in anyone's cereal here but as the voice of reason, remember that Amare did have a major knee injury at a young age and giving away half of the team to get him could be a major catastrophe if he were to get hurt again.
That being said, i'd still like to see him in a Pistosn uniform but stay somewhat leary of exactly how much to give up to get him.
But that is also the only reason they would even dream of trading him.
Cross 06-08-2007, 11:10 PM I read an article a while ago on whehter the Suns should trade Marion or Amare. ARticle gave valid points for each. fuck i cant find it. sports illustrated btw.
I'm sure that they trade one of them, most likely being Marion. The amare and Nash pick and roll is just way too deadly.
Laxation 06-09-2007, 07:15 AM Amare and Nash p&r might be deadly, but can you imagine Nash and Rip, with screen set by Diaw? It would be insane!
Rip would thrive in their offence, seeing as he is so fit, and Sheed would give them the post defence that need so badly against Duncan.
This trade, IMO, is better for the Suns than it is for us. Mainly because I doubt Phoenix's ability 100% to win a title with their current team, but if they add some defence (Sheed) and the awesomeness of Rip, they would be good enough to win the title.
All (and I use that term loosely...) this trade gives us is a superstar centre, that we would have to build around in order to win in the future. It won't make us win now.
Cross 06-09-2007, 10:10 AM Atleast no one has said this was realistic because it's not. What team could offer a better package of players? beccause the suns probably would not want a pick from 3~15.
Glenn 06-09-2007, 10:14 AM I can totally see the Suns intentionally drafting foreign players and stroing them overseas just to keep their payroll down this season.
Guys like Splitter, Tomic, etc.
While it's not an unusual practice, it's usually done with 2nd round picks, but I can see them doing it with at least one of their 1st, maybe both.
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