Here's a post from last night on the Detroit News Forum from a solid poster who is somewhat "in" with UM athletics:

last week police in Monroe pulled over a car for a traffic violation

an inspection of the vehicle produced what appeared to be a a small amount of weed and a prescription bottle containing vicodin

There were 3 people in the car. Two of them were reportedly UM fb players

More importantly, one of the players was said to be Mario Manningham

No one was arrested and the men were allowed to continue their drive to Ohio. No charges will be filed until lab tests come back. UM officials had no comment and said they were not aware of the situation

What is it with the position of WR that seems to bring out the worst in people ?

Lloyd Cooper's Winter of discontent continues

G-dog, grand blanc, mi


The News had the report this morning, but they gave no names, as obviously the KGB, CIA, and OSS in Ann Arbor are probably out en masse with their best agents (some holdovers from the Kennedy Assassination Cover Up Team and others) to either sweep this under the rug or spin it away.
King Lloyd has had quite the off season. There seems to be a, how do you say it? "Lack of Institutional Control" problem.
The Head Coach is responsible for this shit, and things appear to be crumbling under the grumbling, bumbling, stumbling Carr.

Not worried about it. Maurice Clarett had 5,395,301 stolen CD's in his car and it wasn't a problem. You do realize that EVERY car coming from Ann Arbor has weed and vicodin in it, right?

I'm a little worried because if its true that there was two football players in there it shows poor judgement to be in a car with an idiot. The one thing that I find funny is that 3 college football players ADMITTED to smoking weed and it didn't effect their draft status one bit, but two Michigan players are in a car with weed in it (maybe it was theirs, maybe it wasn't) and they want to lump this in with Penn St's legal troubles and Bob Huggins "losing control of a program."

Normally I'd agree with you filly.
But this is on top of something which is on top of something, and so on. It begins to look like there is an institutional problem when it happens again and again and again.
Funny, for Michigan fans, like all fans, it's a BIG problem when it's someone ELSE, but when it's in yer own house, well, ahem, it's just a little nusiance, no problem harumph harumph.

Well maybe we can just brush this under the carpet like our old buddy Tom Izzo Zip. I mean we all know that he doesn't admit felons on his basketball team, but he did help Zach Randolph get his felony pleaded down to a misdemeanor. If we're gonna open the can of worms and claim that every coach can control their players at all times then that is fine with me, but I would personally think its hard enough for Izzo to control 12 - 15 guys let alone Carr or Dantanio control 80+ guys (more like over 100 I think). If the cops let them go and didn't arrest anyone then why would we think its a major problem and not a nusiance?

I agree on your points, it IS hard to keep track of 85 players. But again, it just seems to be one of those things right now that Lloyd seems to be losing a little bit of control. I'm concerned for the image of the program and the fact that it keeps happening.
I don't compare UM to MSU or Notre Dame or Penn St or Ohio St. What they do is irrelevant to me, unless they have NO arrests or problems, and I would wonder why they do it and not UM. That's not the case, of course, so they don;t matter to me.

No one can control their players like they're 5 years old. This probably wont be a problem for Michigan. C'mon I bet everyone here has smoked weed in college, or taken something else. MSU has a bigger ruined reputation of off the field problems. As long as MSU players keep token up or beaten up their girlfriends Michigan will be fine if they keep the on the field success thriving.

Yeah, you can't pretend that these schools will stop expirimenting with fireworks, liftin 40's, or taking recruits out in a new truck and rolling it. I mean, that's what they get paid for, you know?

Well maybe we can just brush this under the carpet like our old buddy Tom Izzo Zip. I mean we all know that he doesn't admit felons on his basketball team, but he did help Zach Randolph get his felony pleaded down to a misdemeanor. If we're gonna open the can of worms and claim that every coach can control their players at all times then that is fine with me, but I would personally think its hard enough for Izzo to control 12 - 15 guys let alone Carr or Dantanio control 80+ guys (more like over 100 I think). If the cops let them go and didn't arrest anyone then why would we think its a major problem and not a nusiance?

OH MY!!! This was such a stupid post I can't even handle it. "Brush this under the rug like our buddy Tom Izzo" ???? Are you fucking serious? Izzo has had almost a perfect off the court resume with his players. A beer pullover once. Randolph wasn't at MSU when he made his mistake and I'm pretty sure Tom Izzo didn't "help get his felony pleaded down to a misdemeanor." WTF are you even talking about? Izzo is a lawyer now?

MSU's fball team has had tons of issues. No argument there. But don't go pointing at the other school when your school has been a COMPLETE JOKE when it comes to things like this recently. Jackson aggravated assault. What did he get? Sat out a game against a MAC school. NICE! How about B. Robinson? Sexual Assault and he was named your fucking team captain.

I can't even take the stupid shit you post anymore.

Are you really going to deny that Izzo had nothing to do with what happened to Randolph? True, he isn't a lawyer. However, he stated that he wouldn't take a felon on his team and then within a week, Randolph a then committment was given a plea deal that changed his arrest from a felony to a misdemeanor...........I'm not saying that Izzo did anything wrong at all, but he obviously did something. Maybe its the sign of a good coach that he was able to help him in his time of need. You gotta relax sometimes Tre, not everyone is out to get you and State.

Oh filly, you are wrong, wrong...WRONG!!!
They're all out to get Tre and State. They hide behind the trees, they hide under his bed...they move his autographed stuffed Tom Izzo bear. The sportswriters are out to get The Izzo. Harry Potter is out to get State.
They hide under rocks, in the back seat with an axe while Tre is at the Michigan State pep rally.
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! Below is a note found in Tre's slippers one morning:

TrE:
We WiLL GeTyOU. YoUBETTr JUsT watCh OOT!

Oh filly, that is indeed a chilling note. I would not want to be a Sparty in this day and age. There are many evildooooererers involved in this wide ranging conspiracy.
Perhaps we should get our great President George W Bush to protect the Sparties!

Zip I'm a little confused............are you off your medicine again or is this how you normally speak? Are they looking at using you in the next Batman movie as Jim Carrey's mentally retarded cousin, The Idiot Riddler?

Zip I'm a little confused............are you off your medicine again or is this how you normally speak? Are they looking at using you in the next Batman movie as Jim Carrey's mentally retarded cousin, The Idiot Riddler?


Zip is the hero of the retarded. Don't hate... appreciate.

That BaconLettuceTomato guy just gave me a great idea:
What if, yes, what IF those three items were combined, and put between two slices of...toast and we called it a "sandwich"
EUREKA! EUREKA!
It's ALIVE... It's ALIVE ...IT... IS... ALIVE!!!!

No one can control their players like they're 5 years old. This probably wont be a problem for Michigan. C'mon I bet everyone here has smoked weed in college, or taken something else. MSU has a bigger ruined reputation of off the field problems. As long as MSU players keep token up or beaten up their girlfriends Michigan will be fine if they keep the on the field success thriving.
Last season Arian Adrington is out on two nights before game night drinking on a school night shoves his squeeze around, grabs her keys from her and takes off with her car. Just a little schoolboy hijinx no? The cops are called in and it gets suspended about 11 times for hearing. Meanwhile as Sleepy LLoyd is "weighing all the reports" and did I mention Manningham is injured?? AA suits up for Iowa and Penn State because chicken shit doesn't have the stones to face this puke without his 2 best receivers. A pair of victories in tow he sits AA for about 3 plays against NW (that'll show him) and embarrassingly enough he catches a TD pass on about the 4th play of the game. Over in East Lansing Eric Andino and Kellen Freeman Davis roll some puke down a hill at a party the week of the U of Mum game and John L. literally fighting for his job kicks 'em both off for about the next 5 weeks. No taking it up for advisement, weighing the evidence blah x3. There's a helluva' lot more where that came from. This horseshit where you drummed 3 scrubs and put repeat offender Arrington "on suspension" (wink-fucking-wink) is classic A4 where the trials all get held in the springtime. That fucking anus Curry with 27 violations for no fucking DL, driving around his brothers Hummer speeding through a school crossing PASSING A SCHOOL BUS OFFLOADING KIDS. Hey no fucking problemo. etc. etc. etc. What happens in Washtenaw County stays in Washtenaw County. Put down the stones brother because that "Big House" of YOURS is made of glass.

Are you really going to deny that Izzo had nothing to do with what happened to Randolph? True, he isn't a lawyer. However, he stated that he wouldn't take a felon on his team and then within a week, Randolph a then committment was given a plea deal that changed his arrest from a felony to a misdemeanor...........I'm not saying that Izzo did anything wrong at all, but he obviously did something. Maybe its the sign of a good coach that he was able to help him in his time of need. You gotta relax sometimes Tre, not everyone is out to get you and State.

I think you are obsessed. There is a post about Michigan football players getting in trouble and you post about Tom Izzo and MSU bball.

Last season Arian Adrington is out on two nights before game night drinking on a school night shoves his squeeze around, grabs her keys from her and takes off with her car. Just a little schoolboy hijinx no? The cops are called in and it gets suspended about 11 times for hearing. Meanwhile as Sleepy LLoyd is "weighing all the reports" and did I mention Manningham is injured?? AA suits up for Iowa and Penn State because chicken shit doesn't have the stones to face this puke without his 2 best receivers. A pair of victories in tow he sits AA for about 3 plays against NW (that'll show him) and embarrassingly enough he catches a TD pass on about the 4th play of the game. Over in East Lansing Eric Andino and Kellen Freeman Davis roll some puke down a hill at a party the week of the U of Mum game and John L. literally fighting for his job kicks 'em both off for about the next 5 weeks. No taking it up for advisement, weighing the evidence blah x3. There's a helluva' lot more where that came from. This horseshit where you drummed 3 scrubs and put repeat offender Arrington "on suspension" (wink-fucking-wink) is classic A4 where the trials all get held in the springtime. That fucking anus Curry with 27 violations for no fucking DL, driving around his brothers Hummer speeding through a school crossing PASSING A SCHOOL BUS OFFLOADING KIDS. Hey no fucking problemo. etc. etc. etc. What happens in Washtenaw County stays in Washtenaw County. Put down the stones brother because that "Big House" of YOURS is made of glass.

Hip, the guy you are unloading on (the poster you quoted) is an MSU fan, not a UM fan.

"MSU has a bigger ruined reputation of off the field problems. As long as MSU players keep token up or beaten up their girlfriends Michigan will be fine if they keep the on the field success thriving."

Oh, then I would respectfully ask that you rethink he situation. Thank you.

Only a Michigan alum could've......jk

So as Traylor went on to earn more than $11 million during a seven-year NBA career, moving, indeed, to the promised land of wealthy West Bloomfield, Lewis, at least monetarily, was doing him one better. He was living up to his end of those childhood dreams, arriving too amidst the cul de sacs and four-car garages of the same suburb. They were two cousins straight out of Detroit.

"Quasand Lewis needed to launder drug money," Murphy said. "Robert Traylor helped him launder (nearly $4 million) of it."

Which is how Lewis wound up in federal prison for the next 18 years and Traylor, just two years removed from the NBA playoffs, two years from being LeBron James' teammate, is staring down a cell himself. (Yahoo Sports Front Page Online) Check it Out

It is disappointing that professional athletes just blo their credibility like this. (His action has no relation to UofM, but wtf are you doing?)

Do you dumbshits not realize that there are Michigan fans on here making fun of Michigan and trying to mock the whole situation? Or are you just busy trying to twist the stick in your ass for a more comfortable fit?

Jethro:
The Sparties seem to forget. while they are raging aginst UM, that NOBODY rips Michigan more than a Michigan fan.

Mark Snyder's Blog
Arrington punishment similar to history
June 11, 2007


When Adrian Arrington discussed the punishment Lloyd Carr dished out to him this spring, stemming from an undisclosed rules violation, it sounded familiar.
It was very similar to Carr’s method throughout his 12-year tenure as U-M’s coach and Arrington paid his price by running the stadium steps.
Though Carr does not discuss his disciplinary procedures, it was widely reported that former U-M quarterback Brian Griese endured a similar treatment to Arrington, which included running steps under a coach’s supervision.
Here are Griese’s quotes to Free Press columnist Mitch Albom in October 1997 after he had returned to the team the previous year after throwing an object through a campus bar window: “"It was an isolated incident. It was an irresponsible thing, and I was responsible. I was off the team. Coach Carr said I couldn't work out with them or anything.

"I missed from March to July, spring football and workouts, which is when the new team really gets to bond with each other. Guys hanging around in the weight room, training together, laughing, talking. And I couldn't be there. That really hurt."

Sounds a little familiar?

This was Arrington on Saturday, after he rejoined the team publicly at the car wash fundraiser for the new Mott Children’s Hospital.

"(Carr) was really hard. It was probably the toughest situation I had to go through in my life. It was work. But I'm glad I made it."

Carr weighs these issues carefully and debates the merits of each situation individually. That’s why Eugene Germany, Chris Richards and Carson Butler were dismissed from the team this spring while Arrington had a chance to work his way back.

Each college coach deals with punishment differently and nearly all are judged by the general public, placing them in a no-win situation.

Arrington should be fortunate, especially if his teammates welcome him back.

He could be at Penn State, where the “team” concept is in full bloom.

That’s where coach Joe Paterno disciplined his whole team for the actions of six players, who were arrested after an off-campus fight.

The whole group will meet Sunday mornings at Beaver Stadium after each home game this year and do the clean-up work, spic-spanning the stands.

I like that Penn State approach: It would encourage the team to look out for each other.
UM should, as a team and as punishment for Arrington, be forced to go back to the Rose Bowl and clean up all those eggs they laid in last years game.