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Black Dynamite
03-05-2007, 11:27 AM
http://www.familywatchdog.us


Fill that out and find out if your neighborhood is really quiet and safe from sexual predators of women and children.

Zip Goshboots
03-05-2007, 11:39 AM
I've seen this before, Gutz.
It gets to the point where you begin to ponder locking your children up in a closet and throwing them some food every couple of days.
People need to be aware, but we can't walk around in life wondering who's hiding behind every tree or under every rock.
Some of the terminology can be a bit misleading: Get drunk in a bar, grope a tit, get arrested:Sexual Predator.
Get drunk (or not), say you're 17 or 18, boff a 15 or 16 year old: Sexual Predator.

Glenn
03-05-2007, 12:29 PM
Make excuses for getting the "Sexual Predator" label: Sexual Predator.

Uncle Mxy
03-05-2007, 12:45 PM
Also see http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/PSOR_Search.aspx which isn't a for-profit site and gives much the same information for Michigan (though not with as pretty a map). Of course, both sites just list sex offenders, as if that were the big threat model, as opposed to murderers, violent burglaries, etc.

Black Dynamite
03-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Also see http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/PSOR_Search.aspx which isn't a for-profit site and gives much the same information for Michigan (though not with as pretty a map). Of course, both sites just list sex offenders, as if that were the big threat model, as opposed to murderers, violent burglaries, etc.
rob me if you must, kill who you gotta kill, but fucking the kids is a whole other ballpark.

the robbery and murder conviction thing may be pushing it too far. or maybe not. hard to say.

Glenn
03-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Yes, please do not fuck the kids.

Black Dynamite
03-05-2007, 03:52 PM
I've seen this before, Gutz.
It gets to the point where you begin to ponder locking your children up in a closet and throwing them some food every couple of days.
People need to be aware, but we can't walk around in life wondering who's hiding behind every tree or under every rock.
Some of the terminology can be a bit misleading: Get drunk in a bar, grope a tit, get arrested:Sexual Predator.
Get drunk (or not), say you're 17 or 18, boff a 15 or 16 year old: Sexual Predator.
you didn't look at the site to make that not so great excuse.

the red dots are people who committed sexual acts against 13 and under. not many excuses go over for them. the people in the green may have just made a mistake at some point in their life. Either way the convistions are listed. 1st degree sexual assault is a tough one to make excuses for. 3rd degree or 2nd maybe. Any degree of sexual assault to a minor at 13 and under wont get much sympathy from me though.


Yes, please do not fuck the kids.
indeed.

Zip Goshboots
03-05-2007, 07:28 PM
Well hey, I'm all about locking those who prey after children up forever. I don't really think that condition is "curable", plus the kids are screwed up for good.
In terms of the "watchdog" stuff, our newspaper out here runs the names and addresses of sexual "predators" when they settle in at any particular residence. And yes, quite a few were in trouble for crimes that I mentioned.
I'm one of those guys who ponders the old "slippery slope" of where to draw the line, whether or not we have prisons to "rehabilitate" people, and whether or not a guy (or girl) does the time and should be able to get on with a life.

Uncle Mxy
03-05-2007, 07:57 PM
rob me if you must, kill who you gotta kill, but fucking the kids is a whole other ballpark.

the robbery and murder conviction thing may be pushing it too far. or maybe not. hard to say.
Sex offenses typically have more to do with social proximity than physical proximity. Sure, the physical proximity has a bearing on the social proximity, but the two aren't the same. The putrid sex offender may live down the street, but if they work at a school hangout 10 miles away, and cavort in chat rooms with prey 10-100+ miles away, they'll target kids in the social network more than kids who happen to live nearby.

Of course, you don't want them even living nearby. Maybe some fuckhead molester ends up preying on neighborhood kids. It -can- happen, certainly, and it's all the rage in the news when it does. With the sad, ever-growing sexualization of youth, sex crime against youth overall is growing. But the neighborhood offenses are very far from what's typically going on with sex offenders (with most types of assault, for that matter). ~90% of the time, it's either family or some close relation.

Also, sex crimes are about an order of magnitude less common than most other violent crimes, some of which -are- more strongly tied to geography (I'm sure an insurance beanie could say more here). And, sex offenders are much less likely to recommit -any- crime (~40%) than non-sex offenders (~70%). Of course, when they do recommit a crime, it's more likely to be a sex crime, but the nature of the criminal recidivism is very different.

Why I bring all this up is to illustrate just how different sex offender crimes are than other violent crimes. This is why maps showing neighborhood sex offenders don't have mucht to do with overall neighborhood violence, or the specific likelihood of kids getting hit by a random nearby sex offender. And that's my entire point.

Zip Goshboots
03-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Moxie:
Is there any possible way you'd agree to a "brain switch" with me?
I know this guy who could do it. They made a documentary about it, it came out in the early seventies. They had to have Gene Wilder portray this guy in the documentary because he's somewhat reclusive.
Speaking of that documentary, was Terri Garr back then not one of the hottest babes ever?

BubblesTheLion
03-06-2007, 02:06 PM
Yes, please do not fuck the kids.
In the ass.

















wrong thread?

BubblesTheLion
03-06-2007, 02:14 PM
I got nothing to worry about, all the pervs live on the other side of the neighborhood. I got a 4 block buffer zone between the 2nd Degree Sexual Conduct.

Uncle Mxy
03-07-2007, 06:27 AM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0304071obama1.html

Uncle Mxy
03-16-2007, 04:32 AM
Random thought at 4:30am:

Would you want a drug dealer database to go online, like sex offender databases? Or, would such a database amount to a (Google Maps-enabled) roadmap to where someone can score from their nearest dealer? :)

Hermy
03-16-2007, 08:08 AM
Random thought at 4:30am:

Would you want a drug dealer database to go online, like sex offender databases? Or, would such a database amount to a (Google Maps-enabled) roadmap to where someone can score from their nearest dealer? :)

Well, I use the sex offender list to get my child raped, so sure.

Zip Goshboots
03-16-2007, 08:32 AM
How about a hooker database. I NEED to know where the hookers are living in my neighborhood.

Glenn
03-16-2007, 08:34 AM
I typed in OMAHA into that sex offender site that Gutz posted and I now think I have the information that I need to construct a fairly accurate Goshboots family tree.

Zip Goshboots
03-16-2007, 04:05 PM
Did they get my "good side" for the picture?
Did I say that out loud?

geerussell
03-23-2007, 07:28 AM
I don't have a problem with people being reasonably punished for crimes they actually committed. It just seems to me that once you've gone through the system, been sentenced and done your time that should be the end of it.

Uncle Mxy
03-23-2007, 09:09 AM
Is the primary purpose of the so-called "correctional" system to correct bad behavior or to punish? To what extent do punishment actions correspond with and conflict with correctional actions? Do you put fixable shit amidst broke shit in a junk yard and expect it to remain fixable? Why does serving X number of "years" in an area with no kids make them less likely to want to play sex games with kids again after they get out? What's the cost-benefit ratio of attempting to fix potentially-fixable people versus just locking them up for the rest of their lives? If a person is total junk, why not just incinerate?

geerussell
03-23-2007, 07:06 PM
No matter what you do there won't be any guarantees that an individual won't commit a crime in the future.

Black Dynamite
03-24-2007, 11:43 PM
No matter what you do there won't be any guarantees that an individual won't commit a crime in the future.
i 100 percent agree. but this isnt about that. its about making the people they've systematically scared into being the culture that is america today feel better on the odds. What people required is bullshit assurances on odds that they feel good about.

there is crime in the burbs, there are nice places in detroit, eating healthy with exercise doesnt mean you won't get cancer, driving safely doesn't mean you won't get into a fatal wreck, and so on and so forth. Its not about a guarantee, its about the odds and statistics in favor of such to satisfy people's fear. This is a country of insecure scaredy cats and it was built to be that way.



If a person is total junk, why not just incinerate?
Because mass incerations fix nothing and who would be in charge of its devine decision in a country that voted for Bush? [smilie=peepwall.gi: