Anyone brave enough to leave their house tonite?

I kind of have to, mike, There's some guy named John Walsh at my door

Drove 40 minutes for an Oberon.

hooray for voulenteering here at MSU in -15 wind chills

I sent the female to the store. Im evil.

I sent the female to the store. Im evil.


You're either well hung or she's ugly.

such a beautiful morning at -1 degrees. :(

i was looking at plane tickets to florida, 100 bucks round trip from detroit to tampa.

i was looking at plane tickets to florida, 100 bucks round trip from detroit to tampa.
its cheap because you'd be lucky if the plane doesnt freeze stuck to the ground at this temperature.[smilie=peepwall.gi:

It's fucking arctic here too. My crazy ass drunken Bear fan friends went and took shirtless pictures in front of these last night:
http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20070130&Category=SPORTS11&ArtNo=70130032&Ref=AR&Profile=1049

I think they might be dead now.

Detroit is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.

Mayor (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0546868/): What do you mean, "biblical"?
Dr Ray Stantz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000101/): What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000101/): Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
Winston Zeddemore (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001368/): The dead rising from the grave.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

actually disasters hit the coast before us. enjoy Cali Denny :)

that whole thing Lex Luthor was planning with the missiles splitting the fault lines will happen on its on. So much for superman.:yingyang:

its cheap because you'd be lucky if the plane doesnt freeze stuck to the ground at this temperature.[smilie=peepwall.gi:
Or its cheap because they dont like heating there cabins!

Arcman:
You have GOT to stop posting so much on this forum. You are going to wear your computer out at this rate.

You're either well hung or she's ugly.

LOL. Ill claim the first one there.

Odd weather this year. We (California) were having a friggin cold spell while y'all were in the 60s (iirc in December) now MI is freezing its collective nuts off and its nice out here.

I like how all the local news has been telling people how to keep warm, and the TV stations have had the county map with wind chill advisory plastered on the screen for a couple days. Its cold, thats it, not a freakin tornado or anything. Wear a coat, hat and gloves if youre gonna be out for a while, and get over it already. I on the other hand, have not even got my winter coat out of the closet for my third winter in a row now.

UxKa:
Man, I totally agree. Why the HELL does the news need to treat WINTER in JANUARY in MICHIGAN or WISCONSIN like it's a sudden outbreak of bubonic plague?
I mean, doesn't this shit happen every year?
All I do is line my dumpster with a couple extra pieces of old carpet, get a few more candles, and I'm toasty warm.
The cold is actually beneficial to me because it helps me with food storage.
I think you gotta be an idiot if you need Walter Cronkite to tell you to wear a hat and some mittens when it gets below 10 degrees.

...All I do is line my dumpster with a couple extra pieces of old carpet, get a few more candles, and I'm toasty warm.
The cold is actually beneficial to me because it helps me with food storage.

lol, extra carpet. When I was a teenager, my bedroom had a balcony. I loved winter because I could just leave beer outside and it would stay cold, compared to hiding it in my room and dealing with warm beer, or ice in beer, ewww.

i had to deliver pizza in this crap all day today, waiting for people to answer their doors, boy was that fun

i had to deliver pizza in this crap all day today, waiting for people to answer their doors, boy was that fun

I hope you were tipped well.

I talked to my cuz in Michigan today and she said she had her pizza delivered for the first time ever yesterday. But she did say she tipped 5 bucks. Not great but acceptable, I would think.

I hope you were tipped well.

I talked to my cuz in Michigan today and she said she had her pizza delivered for the first time ever yesterday. But she did say she tipped 5 bucks. Not great but acceptable, I would think.

Not great? Pizza guy gets $1 + change from me, I thought that was standard. If the change is tiny they get $2 and I thought that was generous. Im generally a good tipper, 20% minimum at a restaurant unless the service was shit. Am I off on the pizza thing? My roommate used to deliver pizzas and he doesnt see a problem with my philosophy.

I had to smoke outside during the super bowl since we went to my parents. I basically just had a windbreaker on, I got a tad chilled but nothing too bad. Its -7 here now.

Not great? Pizza guy gets $1 + change from me, I thought that was standard. If the change is tiny they get $2 and I thought that was generous. Im generally a good tipper, 20% minimum at a restaurant unless the service was shit. Am I off on the pizza thing? My roommate used to deliver pizzas and he doesnt see a problem with my philosophy.

I had to smoke outside during the super bowl since we went to my parents. I basically just had a windbreaker on, I got a tad chilled but nothing too bad. Its -7 here now.

The general rule on that is 15% or $2 whichever is larger, sounds like you're in the ballpark.

15%? So its like going out to eat but on the shallow side? I had no idea. Ive also always hated delivery tips because diff places charge diff amounts for delivery. Generally that delivery charge directly impacts what the place pays the delivery driver. So am I supposed to ask each place what they pay the driver? It has to be the biggest grey area in all of tipping.

Using my culinary laser thermometer, I have concluded that the current temp in the San Fernando Valley is 52 degrees.

Brrr. Better turn on the heater.

I'm amazed at all the school closings in southeast Michigan. I went to school in conditions like this (below-zero cold, no snowfall) a lot. Hell, for a few years, I'd walk to school in shit like this.

And, unless you count a jean jacket with a fashionable lining as a winter coat, I haven't used a winter coat yet either.

-12 this morning

fuck a wind

Cold? WHAT cold? Right now I'm standing on my balcony, wind coming straight at me, I'm looking at the Great Lake Gichigoomee, and I'm FREEBALLING it!
And I'm NOt cold! I LOVE it!
I'm going to walk to the grocery store completely naked too! (except for my cape and boots).

I know jack shit about Pizza tips because I never have it delivered. Dolly's Pizza is 1/2 mile from my house so I don't feel like waiting 20 minutes extra to get my pizza.

I delivered pizza for 4 years (end of high school through 3 years of college).
So here is far more than you wanted to know about the job of the guy who brings you your 'za.

A $2/delivery average is what you hope/expect to make for the night. Tipping COMPLETELY depends on where you live, both in terms of how upscale your city is and where in that city you live. Race of the customer isn't a factor. The white guy in the project is going to stiff you just as often as the black guy in the project. Same with the high end of town, its where you are going, not who you are going to (except in the case of regulars where you know from experience what you are getting before you leave the store).

Averaging 30 runs a night (22 on slow nights, 38 on busy nights) at $1.50 a delivery and a $2 tip per made you $105 a night plus your minimum wage hourly ($5.15), so about $145 a night total. The busiest night of the year is not SuperBowl Sunday, its the day before Thanksgiving. Superbowl Sunday is busy for about an hour before the game and for about a one hour period starting 30 minutes before halftime and ending 30 minutes after half time. The day before Thanksgiving is busy all day, every year, no matter what.

A lot of people give a buck + the coins. An extra buck from those people helps your average A LOT though as there are many more stiffs than $5 doors. If you are having a party or something, and my car is full of your pies $5 is the minimum expected (sometimes up to $10 if its seriously filling up my whole back seat) as your delivery is probably the only one in my car because its so damn large an order.

The way it works (at a good pizza joint) is that the first driver in the store gets the first delivery and any other deliveries that go to the same area of the city (or are on the way to that first delivery) up to the point that waiting for another delivery would make the first one late. All the deliveries a driver takes in one trip away from the store are referred to as a single "run". "Runs" are why delivery takes longer than pick-up, the pizza always takes 6 minutes to make, but with delivery the driver is waiting for the other orders in that general direction to get finished before leaving to get to your house. The next driver gets the first delivery that doesn't go to the same area as the first driver, and all the orders that go the same way as that order, until waiting longer would make them late. Generally, when the first order in a "run" is 20 minutes old (that is, 20 minutes after you hung up the phone, not 20 minutes after the pie is made) the driver has to leave on his/her run. Runs are good for drivers as they make more money per night, but they are also better for the store as they need less drivers. A busy pizza place would seriously need about 15 guys on busy nights if they made each guy take one delivery at a time.

The whole goal in delivering (for the driver) is to take as many deliveries at one time as possible while still getting back to the store without a driver who leaves after you getting there first. This way you keep your spot in the rotation while still taking a lot of deliveries. Any run with less than 3 deliveries in it is less than ideal unless its to a location close to the store and you can get back before the guy (or guys) who left right before you gets back. If you and another driver are coming up to the driveway of the store at the same time, you cut that motherfucker off. Not doing so costs you about $10.

The main place I worked for (worked a couple places before I got to this last one) wasn't a franchise chain, which often have limits to how many deliveries you can take at once, and had been in the location for 35 years. It seems to have been an ideal spot and time to be running pies for him as I went back in there a month ago (hadn't stopped by for about 2 years) and he said the whole industry in the area was hurting. Too many competitors, too many folding and new places opening just to close 6 months later. When I ran for him they had 6 guys on a Friday or Saturday night, all who went home happy. They had 3 guys running that Friday night, the two who were in the store at the time were not happy with the number of runs, and it was winter (the peak season for deliveries).

In short, tip the guy $2. If you live in an apartement complex or a rough area he'll be happy to get it. If you live on an ordinary suburban street, he expects it. If you ordered a shit load, you are fucking him over. But I never have that shit delivered, what a waste of money.

So how much gas do you use and how many extra miles do you put on your car? It sounds like the money is pretty solid, but what about the extra costs to the driver?

wow that was one hell of an explanation. had to go to the doctor this morning and had bronchiatits, not sure how to spell it. gave me an antibiotic and some other shit.

on the pizza side of things, I am still going to deliver tonight even though i am sick and yes the money of pizza delevering is the best money you could imagine with the least amount of work required. I make 6.95 per hour and friday night for example i worked 5-11 and made 145 in tips on 34 deliveries. I work in a town that is pretty wealth so tips are usually pretty good. pizza delivering is the devil because it gives you a false perception of the word work, if work is driving around in your car drinking pop and listening to music.

It rapes your car. As simple as that. I worked 4 nights a week and 2 nights ate a whole tank of gas. So I typically filled my tank 3 times a week (twice because of work, once for general driving to school and everywhere else) in either an 86 Mustang or a 96 Mustang (the two cars I delivered in). When gas prices went up to like $1.75-$2.00 (sometime around 2001), my boss kicked us an extra 50 cents per delivery, I hope he did the same when Katrina upped gas again (but he only charged $1.75 for delivery so I don't know what he did). I'd hate to think how much I'd spend on gas doing that now.

Brake pads and oil changes were more frequent then normal, went through tie-rod ends and ball joints and the like (it helped that my brother in law is/was a mechanic and so I only paid for parts). You almost can't avoid getting a couple tickets (I got plenty early on but by the end you know what time of day you can speed on what roads and I never got one). All in all, it was a better than an average high school/early college job and while you didn't actually clear as much as you brought home due to maintenance and "hazards" (never got robbed but a couple guys did while I was there) you definately made enough to keep doing it even with the costs.

I was the only highschool/college aged kid delivering there. Most of the other guys were ex-potheads who never/barely finished highschool and were making a living off the job paying apartement rent. So they made enough to pay rent and live but I imagine it was just barely.

Sounds like Pizza delivery isn't in the stripper category, but they do ok.

I always wondered how lucrative pizza delivery was. I was a cook through highschool and college and it was pretty good. Not stellar money (started at 6 bucks an hour when minimum wage was $4.75 and ended at 9 bucks an hour), but eating whatever you want was pretty nice. At most jobs you end up buying lunch (might cost you 5 bucks a day, and probably more after drinks and breaks too), and you are stuck eating the same thing every day if not (ie McDonalds or pizza). I got my choice of the menu. The only draw back was that it was pretty hot in there in the summer (drinking lots of water and a nice shower afterwards made that no big deal though).

I tip the pizza guy anywhere between $1.51-$2.50. Of course, I only have pizza delivered maybe 3-4 times a year, when I'm sick or unable to drive for some reason, and almost never had a big order delivered. If I want pizza, I generally go out and get it myself.

I usually get buddys and I don't think they deliver. On the rare occasion I do get it delivered, I usually give $2.

It seems we've reached an agreement on pizz tips: Two bucks it is!
Now, how many stuff more than a dollar into a strippers thong?

It seems we've reached an agreement on pizz tips: Two bucks it is!
Now, how many stuff more than a dollar into a strippers thong?

Tahoe <-----He does

It seems we've reached an agreement on pizz tips: Two bucks it is!
Now, how many stuff more than a dollar into a strippers thong?
In Canada, the strippers are coin-operated. Looneys and tooneys aren't quite as much fun unless you put the coins on ice beforehand.

So the bottome line on this thread is....Its cold out, so order a pizza, have it delivered, tip 2 bucks and go to the strip joint?

Tahoe, you have summed up not just this thread, but many of life's greatest quesions as well! Good job!

Can this thread be renamed "The Cold Pizza Delivery Hot Stripper Thread" ?

Thanks for the info on the pizza delivery. The place I always order from is only a block away (yes, I am that lazy) so I guess I dont feel bad if Ive been on the cheaper side of things.

Looks like you guys warmed up a bit today, -2 here right now. Ironically it is warmer at the lakehouse right now, which is over a three hour drive straight north.

Look on the bright side. We will be wearing shorts when its 25.

nothing like those winter/spring days when you can feel the weather turning. man do i love those days