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Glenn
02-01-2007, 08:39 AM
Here's the place to track and discuss Amaker's eventual firing.

Anybody want to throw out some potential replacement candidates?

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070201/COL22/702010431/1123/SPORTS02


Is Amaker's fate sealed?
As usual, coach's team folds under pressure
February 1, 2007

BY MICHAEL ROSENBERG
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

Tommy Amaker wonders why there are so many questions about his Michigan's 16-7 record. Perhaps it is because people have watched his team.

Michigan just lost to Iowa at home. Maybe that doesn't sound so bad, but trust me: It looked awful.

The Hawkeyes would be a legitimate NCAA tournament contender if they just had a better non-conference record, more talent and a good coach. They lost at Drake by 16. They lost at home to Northern Iowa. Wednesday night, they spent the first half discussing who their next coach would be. They missed 17 of their first 20 shots and were just as bad defensively; Courtney Sims scored 19 first-half points for Michigan, and on several of his dunks, Iowa did everything but provide an elevator.

The Hawkeyes were down 11 with less than 14 minutes left.

Then they went on a 20-1 run.

Or to put it another way: Michigan went on a 1-20 free fall. In that stretch, the Wolverines lost a game, probably blew their season and might have ended a head coaching career.

Afterward, Amaker said his team showed "great heart and passion in the first 20 minutes. For whatever reason, we didn't sustain it in the next 20." He spoke in incredibly calm tones for somebody whose job is on the line. The problem is not that he was like that after Wednesday's game. He is like that after every game.

The best coaches get angry when their teams play poorly but win. Amaker could never bring himself to do that. His personality demands too much positive reinforcement, and he gives too much to his players. It is a likeable trait, but not a winning one.

What went wrong Wednesday? For one, Dion Harris, the MVP of the team thus far, had the worst game of his life. Heck, this would have been the worst game of Avery Queen's life. Harris missed all 11 of his field goals and didn't score a point until there was less than five minutes left, when he hit a free throw. Harris smiled. Then he missed the next one.

It was that kind of night for Harris, and it probably sealed his fate as an NIT-only college player.

Halfway through the Big Ten schedule, Michigan is 4-4. U-M needs to go 5-3 the rest of the way -- and the second-half slate is a lot tougher. Even if the Wolverines sweep lowly Minnesota, which is so bad the uniforms actually say "Lowly Minnesota" on them, they would probably need three other wins against the following schedule: two games against Ohio State, two against MSU, home against Indiana and at Illinois.

Is it possible? In a world where Kevin Federline is a celebrity, anything is possible. But it is unlikely. Here's why:

All of those teams are a lot better than Iowa.

If the Wolverines fail to make the NCAA tournament, will U-M bring Amaker back for a seventh year? I don't see how it can. Athletic director Bill Martin has been incredibly complimentary of Amaker in the past but noticeably silent about him this year. And though Michigan is a football school, Martin is a basketball fan; he was a regular at U-M men's and women's games for many years before becoming athletic director.

Martin has seen the same program as the rest of us: a talented team that folds under pressure, shows little mental toughness and has long stretches of offensive cluelessness.

This squad looks like most of Amaker's teams: not bad, but not good enough. And with a tough schedule coming up, will this year's Wolverines collapse like last year's Wolverines did?

"I guess we'll find out," Amaker said.

I think we just did.

Moodini31
02-01-2007, 10:00 PM
I just don't see it happening any time soon. I really hope it does, but then Alex Legion and Manny Harris can be released from their LOI's, so it's a catch-22.

Wizzle
02-02-2007, 09:50 AM
but Mood, if Amaker stays then Harris and Legion will just become more players with potential that never improve.

Baker
02-02-2007, 10:52 AM
but Mood, if Amaker stays then Harris and Legion will just become more players with potential that never improve.
Exactly.

We got rid of our riddler, when are you guys going to get rid of your clown?
http://enlightenedspartan.com/photos/TommyAmaker.jpg

Glenn
02-02-2007, 10:59 AM
God, those mock T's that he always wears are annoying.

They should fire him for that reason alone.

Zip Goshboots
02-04-2007, 11:48 AM
The future is actually looking brighter for Michigan athletics.
Amaker will soon be gone (a guy who has proven nothing at any level of coaching, sure to be back at Duke sitting next to Koach K), and OF COURSE, those of us who have allowed themselves to hope, believe that Lloyd T Carr will be gone after 2007.
Good time to be a Michigan fan right about, in another year.

Glenn
02-14-2007, 12:00 PM
Seth Greenberg is sounding pretty good right about now.

MoTown
02-14-2007, 12:11 PM
I have the horrible feeling that Amaker will still be at Michigan to start next season.

WTFchris
02-14-2007, 12:21 PM
I have a feeling that the big ten tourney will decide it. If they get a couple wins in the tourney I could see people thinking he is finally turning the corner. I think he should be gone, but you never know.

Baker
02-14-2007, 08:26 PM
I think UM should give Tommy Amaker a 10 year extension.

Sincerely,
MSU Faithful

Moodini31
02-15-2007, 05:40 PM
I have the horrible feeling that Amaker will still be at Michigan to start next season.

Me too Mo. I just don't see him getting fired. The administration seems to love him and not care much at all about the basketball program. Wierd to see that he's been at Michigan longer than JLS was at MSU, probably had less success than Smith, and still has his job. SAD.

Baker
02-15-2007, 08:29 PM
Me too Mo. I just don't see him getting fired. The administration seems to love him and not care much at all about the basketball program. Wierd to see that he's been at Michigan longer than JLS was at MSU, probably had less success than Smith, and still has his job. SAD.

Yea, and as a State fan just seeing the letters "JLS" makes me want to puke.

Jethro34
02-16-2007, 05:36 PM
Make the move. Hell, keep him as a recruiter but never allow him near the court, and ban mock turtlenecks at Crisler following the renovations.

Baker
02-17-2007, 06:25 PM
LOL if that Indiana win allows TA to keep his job.

That's like the Lions losing Reggie Bush because they beat the Saints at the end of the year.

Moodini31
02-18-2007, 10:15 PM
Like I said in the other thread, what a stupid, pointless, too little too late win. If this win saves Tommy's job, I will watch the first Michigan basketball game next year wearing Tre's Neitzel jersey and I'll let him kick me in the junk after every Michigan turnover just to punish myself and make the situation the worst in can be. [smilie=kicks.gif]

Baker
02-18-2007, 11:14 PM
Like I said in the other thread, what a stupid, pointless, too little too late win. If this win saves Tommy's job, I will watch the first Michigan basketball game next year wearing Tre's Neitzel jersey and I'll let him kick me in the junk after every Michigan turnover just to punish myself and make the situation the worst in can be. [smilie=kicks.gif]

Game day guy food- $10
Neitzel Authentic Jersey- $70
60" HDTV- $2,000
Watching Michigan BBall w/ Moodini and kicking him in the nuts after turnovers-PRICELESS

LOL!

Glenn
03-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Greenberg is coaching like he'd fit in here fine, lately.

b-diddy
03-06-2007, 08:57 PM
drew sharp wrote that mrs amaker is a hotshot faculty member at um, and her being black is too valuable to lose. suggesting UM will keep amaker to hold onto an english teacher. sounds about right.

FillyCheezeSteak
03-06-2007, 09:38 PM
an English teacher? way to bring the knowledge B...............why don't you check again before you start to sound like Zip.

Baker
03-07-2007, 08:39 AM
an English teacher? way to bring the knowledge B...............why don't you check again before you start to sound like Zip.

He's actually right. There has been a lot of talk about this lately in Michigan circles. Amaker's wife is a big wig with the affirmative action stuff at Michigan. It's less about her teaching role and more about her role with different important groups at Michigan. Many believe that they won't fire him, because they absolutely can not lose her.

Zip Goshboots
03-07-2007, 08:44 AM
Well, once again fillycheesedick is made to look like a fool.
Good gawd, man, why don't you just go back to making "upskirt" videos and jerking off to gay porn?

MoTown
03-07-2007, 09:03 AM
I think Pat Summit would be a good fit on the Michigan bench....

FillyCheezeSteak
03-07-2007, 10:40 AM
I was commenting on the fact that she is not an English Teacher. If you dont know what you're talking about don't add to the thread. I believe she is either the Dean of Students or Dean of Freshmen and she will not factor into Bill Martin's decision, he has already stated this.

WTFchris
03-07-2007, 10:46 AM
I think Pat Summit would be a good fit on the Michigan bench....

why, because they play like soft girls inside?

Glenn
03-07-2007, 10:49 AM
I don't think Pat Summit has been called "soft" very often.

She gruff.

WTFchris
03-07-2007, 12:04 PM
I meant Courtney Sims and the rest of that Charmin soft front court that plays at Chrisler. I like Petway, but he has a limited skill set to work with.

b-diddy
03-08-2007, 11:36 PM
I was commenting on the fact that she is not an English Teacher. If you dont know what you're talking about don't add to the thread. I believe she is either the Dean of Students or Dean of Freshmen and she will not factor into Bill Martin's decision, he has already stated this.

actually, she is an associate dean, if you want be comepletely anal with a capital ASSHOLE. and besides, all i was doing was posting the rumour drew sharp wrote: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070304/COL08/703040619/1089&GID=P9ThAY84u8sLD9dL4TJxlfA3/5O+jOVgS/X5QSRXpeQ%3D .

theMUHMEshow
03-16-2007, 11:35 AM
...is he gone yet?

Glenn
03-16-2007, 11:36 AM
He's going to be back, isn't he?

theMUHMEshow
03-16-2007, 11:46 AM
He's going to be back, isn't he?
...I dont know. I am not turning on any local sports talk today because after the fucking embarrassment that was yesterday (turning on both stations *note one is my employer* and hearing virutally all LOLn's draft talk) I do not want to chance putting my head through a glass window.

If the wolverine updates somethign I will see it...but I havent scowered the internet looking for any news yet...

If they dont get rid of him I will fucking cry.

Zip Goshboots
03-16-2007, 12:25 PM
Football: Lloyd Carr and supreme mediocrity. The "signature" of your athletic program.
Basketball: Start crying.

Moodini31
03-16-2007, 04:50 PM
If they dont get rid of him I will fucking cry.

Similar to my thoughts MUHME. But I think I might go more of the destructive route if he stays.

p14TIHzoC7E

Please fire this cat or I'll go apeshit!

Glenn
03-16-2007, 04:55 PM
I'll look for a betting line for him to stay or go, lol.

My guess is 75% that he's going to be retained.

b-diddy
03-16-2007, 05:54 PM
no question he stays in my mind. his gym teaching wife has him anchored to the school.

that and the recruits. wouldnt want to lose those.

Jethro34
03-17-2007, 05:03 PM
Now that it's official and there's a thread to that end, this can be locked. But come on back every now and then to watch the fence plowing video and imagine waht Moodini might have done that he now doesn't have to.