(Games Started)
100 pts per game (10th) ---up
Allow 92 pts per game (3rd) ---up
Difference - 8 (2nd) ---up
FG % 47.2 (4th(t) ---up
Rebounds 41.6 (11th(t) ---------down
Assists 23.6 (3rd) --- up
Turnovers 12 (1st) -------------down
Blocks 5.7 (6th) --------------down
Steals 6.9 (17th(t) ---up
Fouls Against DET 24 (23rd) ----------down
Fouls For DET 22.9 (11th(t) ---up
Points in the Paint 33.1 (23.1) ---up

Record 5-2

Is 92 pts allowed up meaning that we're giving up more points per game, or that our 10th in the league is up from like 12-13th?

Is 92 pts allowed up meaning that we're giving up more points per game, or that our 10th in the league is up from like 12-13th?

Up = Improved
Down = STOP PLAYING SHITTY!!!

and they said Webber couldn't play D

How much has our rebounding changed Bubbles?

How much has our rebounding changed Bubbles?

I wrote nothing down. . .

We didn't get a rebound before Webber? Damn, that's an effect!

We didn't get a rebound before Webber? Damn, that's an effect!

Ha, you're a funny guy. You know what else is funny?
Your eye popping out while I squeeze your head in a vice.
Don't mock me IT MAKES ME FEEL INSECURE!!!!

Nice research Bub. Where did you get the before and after numbers from?

yea, good work. it'll be nice to keep an eye on how much of a difference c-webb makes to the team.

Webber's on-the-court/off-the-court +/- is +10.1, compared to -5.7 for Nazr.

I doubt Webber maintains quite that high a +/- once a few more games are played out, but it gives some idea of his impact.

i dont watch enough to say, but is that because flip plays the starters together, and the bench together?

i dont watch enough to say, but is that because flip plays the starters together, and the bench together?
Webber's been played mostly the way Nazr was played, along with the starters, which is why I think it's reasonable to compare their +/- as I did. Nazr hasn't had the benefit of playing with -all- the starters as much as Webber did. That's partially due to injuries of the other starters, but Nazr being foul-prone has had something to do with it too. No way is that a perfect comparison, but I think it'll be useful to see Webber's +/- after a comparable sample size -- 30 games or so. If he's still a net positive on the court, I think we have a winner -- at least until the playoffs come.

I was readin an SI in the hospital waiting room and they were talking about a blocks to shooting fouls ratio. For their example of a bad ratio, they gave Nazr with 0.51 blocks per shooting foul. Remember, this isn't ALL fouls, this is just shooting fouls.

but Nazr being foul-prone has had something to do with it too
exactly.

Webber affect good

Webber affect good


You always were long winded.

I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised with Webber. I like Webber and I was glad we signed him, but I wasdn't sure how well it would work. So far, so good. In fact, better than I could have imagined. I'm shocked at how quickly he got on the same page and how big of a difference his play was from recent days in Philly.
Now most people in their criticisms of Webber will say wait until the final minutes of close playoff games to be happy about having Webber. I suppose that's fair enough, but I just love our team so much more with him. The beginning of the season was painful to watch a lot of times. That hasn't happened nearly as often. I just wish we could gte something useful out of Murray and Nazr for the playoff stretch.

My only gripe on the guy is I hope in the playoffs he starts setting screens. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt he is protecting his knees.

I just think Webber brings alot of hunger and energy to the team. Not that we necessarily got complacent, but I think we really needed some new blood to get the juices flowing. The boys are having fun out there like I haven't seen in 2 years.

The cutting and passing on this team has been so damn contagious, it's a joy to watch as a Piston's fan and a fan of basketball in general.

Honestly, when I think of why we faltered in last year's playoffs, it was because we lost that passing and ball-movement that we had in the 64 win regular season. we tried to isolate mismatches so much, that we played outside of our comfort zone. this team isn't a dominant one-on-one team.

i'm extremely pleased because i think we're getting better with each week.

The boys are having fun out there like I haven't seen in 2 years.

abso-freaking-lutely.

[smilie=llama_banan:

Its starting to remind me of 2004 all over again.

I love this team right now. Running plays through Webber's passing is AWESOME. With the way Rip has been racking up assists, we have three starters we can run offense through right now in Webber, Rip, and of course Chauncey. Webber looks like he can barely dunk, and has an ugly jumper (looks like his arms dont move and its all wrist) but another great acquisition by Joe.

He's been better than expected for sure.

I like to pretend that we traded Ben for CWebb, without the salary implications.

I like to pretend that we traded Ben for CWebb, without the salary implications.


I like to pretend all the pistons are made of candy. Rip is cotton candy, and Dale Davis tastes like a sin-sin.

I like to pretend all the pistons are made of candy. Rip is cotton candy, and Dale Davis tastes like a sin-sin.

Can Flip Murray be Black Liquorish....? because everyone hates that shit.

Yeah, left myself open for that one.

Can Flip Murray be Black Liquorish....? because everyone hates that shit.

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about as good as expected to me. i still say chicago can out grind us and is a better team at the moment with the chance of getting gasol. also both our losses coming to the wizards is something to keep in mind.

Sacramento built a passing culture out west. They made webber and Brian Miller ice cold catalysts of their passing scheme. i do think having both guys as passers hurt them because Webber typically had be the scorer that brad miller typically wasn't. No such pressure these days and he's the lone passer on the team with everybody at his disposal a legit option to score. And the culture is contagious, i knew that back when jon barry came here from there, we passed a little more fancy with him around back then.

Either way a motion offense with a passing center is a perfect fit. One thing i didnt expect was Webbers defense being better than its given credit for. his hands are like spiderman foreal and i coulda swore i saw a play where he blocked a shot and the ball stuck to his hands rather than being swatted away. [smilie=peepwall.gi:

The thing about sactown though was that Miller didn't post up at all. Sheed floats a lot, but can post up allowing Webber to operate out of the high post. What's nice is that slow big men will have trouble because either can up fake and take them off the dribble.

Since I've already opened myself up for mild ridicule in this thread, I'll take it a step further.

I've heard (through a buddy's sister) that Webber is seriously huge, like 12".

If you know what I mean.

Isn't there a perception about the relationship of big hands/feet to dong size?

Brian Miller
http://www.biochem.wisc.edu/raines/images/people/BrianMiller.jpg

Brad Miller

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/brad_miller-arton21094-240x240.jpg

Brian looks like a biochem major at Wisconsin.

I'm think thats the dude Uxka is always talking about hanging out with.

CWebb and Vlade were the guys who peeps here loved to watch. They made some defenders look pretty bad with their passes. Miller attempted to fill Vlades shoes.

vlade's problem was that he spent more time flopping, than actually playing defense. gave shaq too many dunks because he was trying to perfect his fall down technique in hopes of looking as dumb as derek fisher.

here's a clip from nba.com in the Cavs game recently,
where Webber was miked.
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/recaps/cwebberwireless0204a.asx
also tells us a bit about what he's doing in the team's defensive schemes

vlade's problem was that he spent more time flopping, than actually playing defense. gave shaq too many dunks because he was trying to perfect his fall down technique in hopes of looking as dumb as derek fisher.

But when the Kings had Vlade is when we were our best. Unfortunately the Lakers were a big hill to climb, and then the Mavs. One could argue Kings were the 2ndish 3rd best team in the league for a couple of years there. Unfortunately for them, the NBA wasn't handing out 2nd place trophies.

Webber to Pollard about playing for Detroit: "Its like 11 You's, everybody's crazy."

We are 11 Scott Pollards?
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But when the Kings had Vlade is when we were our best. Unfortunately the Lakers were a big hill to climb, and then the Mavs. One could argue Kings were the 2ndish 3rd best team in the league for a couple of years there. Unfortunately for them, the NBA wasn't handing out 2nd place trophies.
IMO they might have been the best, But again they never defended Shaq Well imo or the passes he made on double teams..

The fact Doug Christie was an offensive void was also a big problem...

The game 7 he had against LA in 2002 was painful. He was left wide open all game long and didn't even come close.

So I take it that nobody wants to talk about the rumored length of CWebb's dong?

And Stoiyakovic (sp?) would tear it up right up until we played the Lakers. Then Fox covered him and shut him down.

So I take it that nobody wants to talk about the rumored length of CWebb's dong?

i was convinced we have an emoticon for every possible situation. i was correct.

:ronjeremy:
"Who is this CWebb character?"

I'm think thats the dude Uxka is always talking about hanging out with.

How did I get dragged into that? lol FTR I have exactly 0 friends who live in Wisconsin, I live in Illy... and even if I did it wouldnt be that douche.

i dont think theres a question that sac was the 2nd best team in the league, for atleast a year or 2. that portland team was really good, but that sac team that took la to 7 was crazy too. while portland melted down, sacramento got legitimately jobbed by the refs (anyone remember kobe's blown breakaway layup that was a foul about 3 seconds later and from 90 feet away).

and vlade was doing the only thing he could against shaq. playing him legit would have led to about 30 dunks by shaq each game.

and vlade was doing the only thing he could against shaq. playing him legit would have led to about 30 dunks by shaq each game.

And a couple of broken noses.

So I take it that nobody wants to talk about the rumored length of CWebb's dong?
In this film, Tyra tells people on her talk show that it's ok for other guys to be short dick men because she's had Chris Webber:

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2801252

And here's more photographic proof of Webber being well hung. but obviously this could just be photoshopped:

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20060104/webber_3729.jpg

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20060104/webber_3729.jpg
Is Tyra at the lower part of the pic?[smilie=master_emot:

Wizards coach calls Pistons favorites in East

Monday, February 19, 2007Branson WrightPlain Dealer Reporter

Las Vegas- Now that All-Star Weekend is over, it will be back to business for the NBA as teams, especially in the Eastern Conference, jockey for playoff position.

Washington Wizards coach Eddie Jordan, who coached the Eastern All-Stars, said the Pistons are the favorites after improving an already good team by adding Chris Webber.

"When Chauncey has the ball people have to worry about Rip [Hamilton]," Jordan said. "And then sometimes you have to worry about Rasheed [Wallace] picking pops. [B]But when Chris Webber has the ball, everybody is dangerous. He's shown to be a great passer and the more you pass the easier it is for him to score. . . . [Webber] gives them another dimension that's almost unguardable."

From CWebb's blog (he posted this after the game last night).


Wednesday, February 21, 2007

MTV interview
Current mood: excited
Category: Music

What's up everyone,

Check out my exclusive interview with Sway featured on MTV . To view the coverage and piece, go to: http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1552693


God Bless

C Webb

I know he was trying to push some local artists back in the day. didnt know he did production.

very good look into a cat who honestly doesnt get to speak much in interviews w/o being asked about the one thing that will end an interview(the ed martin thing)

What kind of effect has on the Pistons in terms of bimbos in the posses?
Do the Pistons now attract better groupies?
How has having Webber affected the teams Marijuana suply, and the Guns and Ammo stats?
What about the rumor that soon after he joined the team they all came down with crabs?

Will the Interplanetary Pistons feature Webber??

What will his superpower be?

Chris Webber has the power to make himself invisible when his team needs him most.

Chris Webber has the power to make himself invisible when his team needs him most.
Harsh.

Chris Webber has the power to make himself invisible when his team needs him most.

Ouch. I think that even hurt me. You know CWebb can kick your ass right?

Blame Moxie: He asked the question.
I simply supplied the truth.

Chris Webber has the power to make himself invisible when his team needs him most.

OWNED

a low meaning reg season doesnt make up for c-webb's career.

Good luck with that.

I know that put-back broke your heart, but at least denial is working out for you.

:stein:


East MVP of the Second Trimester

Chris Webber, Detroit

I think we're all in agreement that the East has zero contenders for the formal MVP race. Not with only one team (Detroit) on pace to win 50 games.

But since we're focused on this specific chunk of 27 (or so) games, you'd have to say Webber's value to his new team stands out in a close call over Toronto's Chris Bosh.

Bosh's Raptors have been a revelation in 2007, going 19-8 in the New Year entering Friday's play … and he does have my lefty bias in his favor. Yet Webber's mid-January arrival has rejuvenated a franchise that seemed to be drifting from the elite.

Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and Gilbert Arenas all regularly wow us on an individual basis, but the most impressive development in the conference in this stretch is the Pistons' 15-3 mark since Webber became their starting center, restoring Detroit to contender status.

There you go.

Good luck with that.

I know that put-back broke your heart, but at least denial is working out for you.

you say a ridiculously stupid statement, get called out on it. of course you resort to calling me a bull fan. cuz god knows you'll never be wrong.even if wade comes back at 110% you wont be wrong. i'd rather beer bong a full bottle of tobasco sauce up my ass then read your terrible, terrible posts.

The Webber Meter (http://douglasdooley.googlepages.com/webbermeter)

Good luck with that.

I know that put-back broke your heart, but at least denial is working out for you.

Are you Hurons on realgm by any chance?