View Full Version : Saddam hanging video, did you watch it?
Glenn 01-02-2007, 03:32 PM I got to the part where they started yelling at him and stopped it.
I was curious enough to seek it out on YouTube, but something seemed wrong watching the whole thing.
Maybe I'm a pussy.
MoTown 01-02-2007, 03:54 PM I haven't watched it and I probably won't. I don't care how evil he is - I don't want to watch anyone's life taken.
WTFchris 01-02-2007, 04:01 PM no and I probably won't. Not because I can't handle it but because I don't want to devote any more of my life to that dumbass.
also, I watched the video that al queda made when they cut that guys head off earlier in the year and I didn't really care for watching someone die either.
I watched it. Its really not graphic. You dont even see him die because the camera aims to the floor for about 30 seconds, then you see him already dead. Plus the video is grainy and shaking. I dont blame you guys for not watching it, just saying it was nothing gross or even worth watching.
Vinny 01-02-2007, 04:09 PM I just watched it after reading this, it wasn't really that graphic. Not much to it really, at least in the version I saw. Didn't really search around, not sure if there's a "better" version or anything.
Uncle Mxy 01-02-2007, 05:25 PM Don't visit http://www.ogrish.com
Tahoe 01-02-2007, 07:49 PM Sadam's hanging was nothing like the beheading of the guy in the orange jumpsuit a year or more ago.
I only saw the "authorized" (I assume), clip of him that went up until they put the shroud on his head. Just from that I got the feeling that even though the dude is clearly worthy of death (if anyone is) I didn't care to be watching his final moments.
Also, I think its a joke about the concern over the dudes heckling him and whatnot. This isn't some ordinary Hakim they are mistreating (and was it really mistreatment?). I'm all for everyone being treated humanely but getting slapped around a bit by people who have suffered for years under your tyranny and watched their brothers and sisters be slaughtered and brutalized for your simple amusement doesn't classify, to me, cruel and unusual. If anything, not getting in your say about how much of a piece of shit the guy was when he's standing right there in front of you is unusual.
i have no desire to see it.
dude got what he deserved, but i don't really want to watch the actual hanging.
Uncle Mxy 01-03-2007, 09:50 AM I was interested only in the prelude to hanging. There were a number of written assertions about what was and wasn't going on, and I wanted to see for myself rather than rely on too much interpretation by someone else. I wasn't keen on seeing the actual execution, but I'm used to such visuals by now and there are some worse things one could view on the Internet, sad to say.
Zip Goshboots 01-03-2007, 10:27 PM "I didn't want to see the actual hanging, it was too gory"
BUT, I own all 56 of the Friday the 13th movies, as well as the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, and all in HD and all in 3-D.
geerussell 01-08-2007, 05:37 PM also, I watched the video that al queda made when they cut that guys head off earlier in the year and I didn't really care for watching someone die either.
Same here. According to conventional wisdom I should've been good and desensitized from a lifetime of violent movies, television shows and video games. However, the combination of the internets and my curiosity have convinced me that I'm a pussy when it comes to actual human death and suffering so I took a pass on the Saddam show.
detroitsportscity 01-09-2007, 05:03 PM Same here. According to conventional wisdom I should've been good and desensitized from a lifetime of violent movies, television shows and video games. However, the combination of the internets and my curiosity have convinced me that I'm a pussy when it comes to actual human death and suffering so I took a pass on the Saddam show.
Agreed. Fuck, the thing where they throw the scissors into the kid's arm creeps me out. That Al Queda shit - fucked the hell up. No need for me to intentionally try to see more of that type of stuff.
A few years ago I saw a public execution via stoning from Iran. I have truly been scarred since and nothing on the internet phases me anymore. Seriously, dont go looking for that... I went from playing hockey and mosh pits to a somewhat irrational fear of personal injury after seeing that video. I think though, that we can assume that the nastiest and grossest displays of human brutality that we are subjected to comes from the mid-east. I know you can make other cases, but as a whole they hold the trophy.
you cant see shit in the video i saw, it was stupid waste of my time.
geerussell 01-10-2007, 10:58 AM Agreed. Fuck, the thing where they throw the scissors into the kid's arm creeps me out. That Al Queda shit - fucked the hell up. No need for me to intentionally try to see more of that type of stuff.
Drifting off topic here... I wonder if a little more of that wouldn't be a good thing. Seeing it makes it real and forces you to deal with it, and might make both sides here at home rethink some of their rhetoric.
Would the far left be so quick to draw a moral equivalence between bush and the terrorists if they all viewed a beheading video to crystallize the reality of how truly abhorrent the real terrorists are?
Would the far right be so cavalier about collateral damage if they saw raw footage of blown up bystanders and had to deal with the notion of real, ordinary people destroyed as the cost of protecting our own soliders?
Maybe it's not the presence of fake violence but the way the consequences of real violence are sanitized before being presented to us that makes it so easy to pull the trigger.
BubblesTheLion 01-10-2007, 11:45 PM I watched the whole thing. And it made me sad.
Not that some got hanged, or that even a bad man was hanged.
But a witness to the crimes of so many people in our own government was silenced.
MoTown 01-16-2007, 12:54 PM Anyone going to watch the hanging of his half-brother... you know the one where his head pops off due to poor planning? (if it's on youtube yet)
Gross.
4real? Not cool. I won't be.
geerussell 01-16-2007, 02:27 PM I remember reading about some state on the east coast where they couldn't use the death penalty because the only method still on the books was hanging. Apparently it's very hard to find a qualified executioner in america today and it take some care to set up a proper gallows.
Too little force and you get the old dangle & strangle that can go on for an uncomfortable period of time. Too much and the head comes clean off. If you get it just right though, the neck snaps and death is instant with basically no suffering or bloody mess.
From the reports I heard, they fucked it up at both extremes in those last two hangings, the guy whose head didn't pop off had to swing for a while before he finally choked out.
Uncle Mxy 01-17-2007, 08:33 AM Of course, the notion of a humane execution is downright oxymoronic to some.
We must kill with kindness to keep up appearances... yeah, whatever.
Higherwarrior 02-03-2007, 05:43 PM i'm a grown man and i watched the nick berg thing last year. i don't know why- curiousity i guess.
but i have to say it was easily the most disturbing thing i've ever experienced, from the sight AND sound. and then afterwards not only was i terrified at the 'evil' (for lack of a better word) his executors displayed but also the horrible manner in which the poor guy died.
i went through a LONG period of guilt where i felt so wrong for watching it. i felt like it's bad enough the guy died how he did, but then i had dishonored him by watching his death as if for pleasure. (although i never was looking for any pleasure to come from watching it)
while i would never recommend watching that or anything like it again, i agree with whoever said it makes you look at such issues differently. i feel like i'm more in tune with the madness that some of these terrorists are practicing.
watching them do what they did REALLY opened my eyes to how sick, misguided, determined, and crazy these guys are. they enjoyed and celebrated committing this horrible, brutal murderer. then they gave thanks to allah as if they had done a wonderful act to this poor, INNOCENT man.
THAT is scarey, scarey stuff. i think too many of us write these guys off a whackos and don't truly think how committed they are to their cause.
as for 'both sides' seeing executions versus seeing innocent people killed in an airstrike, for example.........it would make you think a bit differently. but i still say they're very different things. the INTENTIONAL and targetted killings of people who are clearly innocent is one thing; the accidental killing of another innocent person while trying to kill a terrorist is altogether different. sadly, they both result in the loss of innocent life. but i'm just saying that the person behind the killings has totally different intentions.
anyway, i don't want to get too far off topic. i did watch the saddam tape just because of who he was and the method used. it was disturbing even though he deserved it. but like others said, you can't even really see much. i just wish they had a translation of what was being yelled back and forth.
but all i could think when watching him walk up there was what had to be going on in his mind; this man had billions of dollars, a ridiculous amount of power and persuasion, he had palaces and material wealth beyond comprehension.
he commanded the killings of thousands of others merely with the snap of a finger. he was living the good life for so long- 'on top of the world' in a way. and yet here he was like a helpless lamb to the slaughter. it all came crashing down and you wonder what he was thinking in those final moments. he went from the very top to the bottom.
think he was thinking much about the power and authority he had and the lavish lifestyle he led, while standing up there with a noose around his neck, waiting for the floor to drop from under him?
i don't know- i'm just the type of person who tries to get in other people's minds. i can't imagine what that sick SOB was thinking in those last moments....
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2007, 06:53 PM He may have been wondering if it's true that when men die by hanging, they often ejaculate at the moment of death.
That's a funny way for the world to discover you have a tiny dick.
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