Anybody got a link?

WDFN and WXYT reporting this.

Link (http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?p=148650#post148650)

I fell for that you sonofabitch.

:fredo:

Tigers extend Bonderman's contract
One of the youngest stars for the Detroit Tigers will be wearing the Old English 'D' for a long time to come. Just a few weeks after extending Brandon Inge's contract for four seasons, the Tigers reached a four-year agreement with starting pitcher Jeremy Bonderman Monday afternoon according to Sports Radio 1130, WDFN.

Financial terms of the contract are not yet available.

http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/cutoffman/index.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_cutoffman/archives/2006_12.html#216865

Hoorah.

I fell for that you sonofabitch.

:fredo:

At least he didn't link to tubgirl.

I HATE tubgirl and that other one. Even reading the name makes me shutter.

$38 Million might have seemed high 3 months ago but now he's making less than Ted Lilly. Not too bad. Good to get him locked up for what's hopefully the start of his prime.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnNRlNNfx3eC.StMVi0BnwIRvLYF?slug=ap-tigers-bonderman&prov=ap&type=lgns



Bonderman agrees to $38 million, 4-year contract with TigersDecember 18, 2006

DETROIT (AP) -- Pitcher Jeremy Bonderman (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7106/) and the Detroit Tigers (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/det/) agreed Monday to a $38 million, four-year contract.
Bonderman, who would have been eligible for free agency after the 2008 season, gets $4.5 million in 2007, $8.5 million in 2008 and $12.5 million in each of the following two seasons. The 24-year-old right-hander was 14-8 with a 4.08 ERA and 202 strikeouts in 34 starts last season, when the Tigers finished with their first winning record since 1993 and won their first AL pennant since 1984. Bonderman was 1-0 with a 3.10 ERA in three postseason starts for Detroit, which lost the World Series to St. Louis in five games. Bonderman is a holdover from the 2003 Tigers team that set an AL record with 119 losses. He went 6-19 that year, his rookie season.

Remember though, he was scheduled to be an aribtration case for 2 of those years. We're paying him a lot for those last 2.

Very true. I was kind of shocked it was so much, I thought it might be more like 30 for 4.

If he keeps pitching well, though, he could cost a fortune on the open market. At least we knocked 2 years off his free agency. I could see him having gotten like 6-7 years, $90 mill in 08 if he continued on his current path.

Yeah, the Tigers are paying for the security of those last 2. And who knows where saleries will be in 2 years. 12 mil may be a deal.

Remember though, he was scheduled to be an aribtration case for 2 of those years. We're paying him a lot for those last 2.


Esplain por favor senior Hermy or Senior Vinny

In baseball, teams maintain the rights to a player for the first 6 years that they are in the majors.

For the first 3 years, the players have no arbitration rights, meaning that if they can't come to an agreement with the team, the team can just automatically renew the previous season's contract.

Players with 3, 4 and 5 full years of major league service time are still the property of their team but can request arbitration from the club. In arbitration, both sides submit what they feel is a fair contract proposal to an independent arbitrator and the arbitrator decides which contract is fairest and that's what the player gets.

For example, if Bonderman elected to go with arbitration for 2007, he could have submitted a figure of, say, $8 Million and the team could of submitted a figure of, say, $4 Million and the arbitrator would have picked the figure he felt was best.

After a player has completed 6 years of major league service time they gain free agent rights and are free to sign with any team as long as they aren't currently under contract.

Bonderman was due for arbitration for the 2007 and 2008 seasons and then would have become a free agent for the 2009 season. By signing him to a 4 year deal now, the Tigers are essentially cutting off the first two years of his free agency.

If you ignore the individual year amounts and look at the contract as if he'll be getting $9.5 million a year for 4 years, they essentially are over-paying for the two arbitration years (it's pretty safe to assume that he wouldn't win an arbitration case in which he sought $9.5 mill...) in exchange for the security of locking up two of his free agent years.

good move, hope he stays out of the trade talk.

the ten per actually sounds low to me, but ony judging by what casey and inge got.

Yeah, I think back to when we signed Jason Johnson. Didn't we give him $10 mill per season when we signed him?
If so, comparing how good Bonderman is now to how good Johnson ever was or could be, this is a great signing.

However, I could be wrong on the Johnson amount.

Thank you Vinny

Yeah, I think back to when we signed Jason Johnson. Didn't we give him $10 mill per season when we signed him?
If so, comparing how good Bonderman is now to how good Johnson ever was or could be, this is a great signing.

However, I could be wrong on the Johnson amount.


Very wrong. We did give 10 per to Kenny. I think JJ got 3 per.

Yeah, I'm retarded. Johnson was 2 years, $7 million.

Kenny was 2 years, $16 million.

I'm not exactly sure what I was thinking, but I searched for it and that's what I found (transaction was on Dec 30, 2003).

Regardless, I think this was good work. I like Dombrowski's methodical approach to making sure this team is solid for years to come.

This is a fantastic signing..To even think we overpaid is a little rediculous..He is a young bull and has far more potential down the line..Have you guys looked at what some of these pitchers are getting out there? Zito will get like 6 years 100 mill...Oh,by the way Gil Meche getting 11 mil per year? Tigers made a great deal and have solidified their starting rotation....

I agree that the money is very reasonable.

The pay scale for pitching is completely out of whack right now (as mentioned Meche, Marquis, hell, Darren freaking Oliver).

Gotta lock up these young arms before they hit the market.

Not to mention Jamie Walker getting a ridiculous contract as well...

The reason people are saying it might seem a little high is not because it is above market value but because he was not due to be on the market for over 2 more years. I agree that the deal is more than fair, perfect really and I was afraid we might not be able to get it done with him so close to free agency. I don't think anyone's saying he's not worth the $9.5 mill, it's just a matter of the baseball economics of signing a player before his free agency period.

The reason people are saying it might seem a little high is not because it is above market value but because he was not due to be on the market for over 2 more years. I agree that the deal is more than fair, perfect really and I was afraid we might not be able to get it done with him so close to free agency. I don't think anyone's saying he's not worth the $9.5 mill, it's just a matter of the baseball economics of signing a player before his free agency period.

I understand your point now...

flip flopping here, but the tiger fan inside of me fully expects bondo to blow out his shoulder and be out of the league soon. i know these work out under dombrowski, but years of randy smith really made me believe things just dont work out for this team. i mean, how bad have we been in the last 20 years at developing players? travis fryman and...? i would be extremely psyched if bondo goes to the next level as a tiger pitcher, though.

Yeah, we haven't exactly developed the best talent recently, although a number of the key contributors on last year's team were our draft picks. Inge, Infante, Rodney, Zumaya, Verlander, and Granderson were all big parts of the puzzle this year. You might as well consider a guy like Bonderman someone we developed even though we got him from the A's organization. Maroth has only pitched in the majors as a Tiger. Monroe, Thames, Robertson all had limited experience in the majors with their previous organizations.

Now, sure, we all had reason to think one day we might have the best lineup in the league, featuring Justin Thompson, Jeff Weaver, Kenny Baugh and Kyle Sleeth with Matt Anderson slamming the door shut in relief. Eric Munson was going to lead the league in homers. Robert Fick would be amazing. Some key acquisitions like Steve Sparks as the #5, Damion Easley and Deivi Cruz turning double plays to Randall Simon. And of course Jose Macias had a golden glove, Juan Encarnacion was pure skill and Gabe Kapler was simply the next superstar. Shane Halter at the hot corner and we're done building a championship team!

Yikes.

I don't even know what happened to half of those guys? They all just disappeared it seems.