If you are a Michigan guy that is on the inside, what the hell do you know about Barksdale and LSU?

You might know some inside info on Rojo, but Barksdale? Prove it.

You are getting me wrong...Im not on the college side of things..And the LSU stuff,I said probably...It is down to two schools.O$U and LSU..That is what I was told face to face by someone close to Barksdale...Im sorry but I cant say who....The RoJo stuff is true..Its either Michigan or USC with Michigan holding a lead...Im not sure about the USC rumors that have come out..I heard the same rumors with Michigan as well...I wish I was on this site earlier as my stories that involved Nichol de-commiting from MSU to go to Oklahoma were proven true...I dont know about other state kids and stuff like that.But I do know people and coaches throughout Michigan and can speak about some stuff here...I understand the doubts as everyone has them because everyone "knows" someone but there is no reason for me to make up crap..I try to hold myself to a higher standard and not be "one of those" posters....

Well...of course you are going to have doubters until your information is proven true. You have a TOTAL of 4 posts, and sure, post count doesn't count for everything, but it gives a person more credibility when you are talking about a MB. So don't take everything so personal, and if you have information, pass it along. Just don't be way off or like other so called 'insiders' proven wrong, your ass will be grass. LOL...

Well...of course you are going to have doubters until your information is proven true. You have a TOTAL of 4 posts, and sure, post count doesn't count for everything, but it gives a person more credibility when you are talking about a MB. So don't take everything so personal, and if you have information, pass it along. Just don't be way off or like other so called 'insiders' proven wrong, your ass will be grass. LOL...

No doubt..I dont blame people for having doubt.On message boards its only right to have doubts really....And the amount of posts does matter as you get to know what a person is like...The only problem I had was being called "michigan bias" because I like Michigan...

Could this turn bad and Barksdale ends up at MSU? Sure,and I'll look like an Idiot,but hopefully over time some will realize im not.....

Here is the new thread for football recruiting discussion. Old thread was getting too large and Glenn suggested a new one.

tommyz- When Barksdale, his coach, and Bill Kurelic(along with other prognosticators) say that it is between OSU and MSU, your LSU stuff seems out of place.

Maybe you are crazy connected, but I'm guessing your info is out of date, or just plain wrong.

BTW are you the tommyz from searn?

Ok, I moved a few of the more recent posts over here as well. The other one is locked. It will still be here for people to quote and look back at, but with the lock it won't be bumped, that way we can avoid competing threads.

Maybe link to it in the first post? (Just a suggestion...)

tommyz- When Barksdale, his coach, and Bill Kurelic(along with other prognosticators) say that it is between OSU and MSU, your LSU stuff seems out of place.

Maybe you are crazy connected, but I'm guessing your info is out of date, or just plain wrong.

BTW are you the tommyz from searn?

First off,from what I was told by someone not family,but is real close to barksdale and that it is down to 2 schools down south...To me that is LSU and O$U..Like I said earlier,If he picks MSU,ill look like and idiot for putting this out,but that is fine...Kids change their minds and maybe Dantonio can change his mind,but I dont see that coming....And yes,im the same tommyz....My name dont change on different sites..I am who I am...I dont flame,troll,or post lies..It hurts my credibility and I dont want to do that......

First off,from what I was told by someone not family,but is real close to barksdale and that it is down to 2 schools down south...To me that is LSU and O$U..Like I said earlier,If he picks MSU,ill look like and idiot for putting this out,but that is fine...Kids change their minds and maybe Dantonio can change his mind,but I dont see that coming....And yes,im the same tommyz....My name dont change on different sites..I am who I am...I dont flame,troll,or post lies..It hurts my credibility and I dont want to do that......

I respect what you have to say, however I think it has changed. It might have been that way a few weeks ago, but Barksdale's comments lead me to believe it is MSU-OSU all the way.

Go get him MD!

Go get him MD!

I didn't think Maryland was in the picture.

I respect what you have to say, however I think it has changed. It might have been that way a few weeks ago, but Barksdale's comments lead me to believe it is MSU-OSU all the way.

Go get him MD!

To be honest,I dont mind being wrong..Im not a state hater,except 1 week of the year, and hope Dantonio turns MSU into something relevant..The last time I talked to "the guy" was 2 weeks ago.Yes,things could have changed since then.Its a huge decision for kids to make,but I just dont see MSU as a place top kids want to go....YET...

On a side note,have you seen him play Tre?

To be honest,I dont mind being wrong..Im not a state hater,except 1 week of the year, and hope Dantonio turns MSU into something relevant..The last time I talked to "the guy" was 2 weeks ago.Yes,things could have changed since then.Its a huge decision for kids to make,but I just dont see MSU as a place top kids want to go....YET...

On a side note,have you seen him play Tre?

Just impressive videos, but not in person. The dude is sick in combine drills though, I know that much.

First off,from what I was told by someone not family,but is real close to barksdale and that it is down to 2 schools down south...To me that is LSU and O$U..Like I said earlier,If he picks MSU,ill look like and idiot for putting this out,but that is fine...Kids change their minds and maybe Dantonio can change his mind,but I dont see that coming....And yes,im the same tommyz....My name dont change on different sites..I am who I am...I dont flame,troll,or post lies..It hurts my credibility and I dont want to do that......

Cool that you're the same tommyz.

And when did you hear that stuff about 2 schools down south? Because Dantonio hasn't been in place for a month yet, and JB visited on the 8th. If you heard something a week or two ago, from somebody who heard it the same distance back, then you could have out of date info.

And JB seems to be playing the recruiting game pretty well, so we shall see regarding 'leaks' anyway.

Not suggesting that MSU is going to get him, OSU is obviously the favorite.

Just impressive videos, but not in person. The dude is sick in combine drills though, I know that much.

Combine drills are very impressive..But,I have seen him during games 4 times the last two years.For someone who is a 4 to 5 star player,he sure disappears at times...Hopefully the coach at wherever he chooses can get him to go 100% all the time...He reminds me alot of Gabe Watson..Someone who, if he wanted, could absolutly dominate a game but too often disappeared...

I think the fact that Barksdale dropped from a top 10 recruit nationally to out of the top 50 speaks volumes to support inconsistent play. Not bashing the guy simply because he's not coming to Michigan, just stating that dropping 50 spots isn't movement in the right direction.

I think the fact that Barksdale dropped from a top 10 recruit nationally to out of the top 50 speaks volumes to support inconsistent play. Not bashing the guy simply because he's not coming to Michigan, just stating that dropping 50 spots isn't movement in the right direction.

Bullshit Jethro.....next thing you are going to tell us is that your aunt saw him with a cast on his leg but he had it covered up so that college coaches couldn't tell. All of this just cuz he's not going to Michigan.....pathetic.

I think the fact that Barksdale dropped from a top 10 recruit nationally to out of the top 50 speaks volumes to support inconsistent play. Not bashing the guy simply because he's not coming to Michigan, just stating that dropping 50 spots isn't movement in the right direction.

He's sick good, he has an NFL body today.

At the same time he is inconsistant(as I've said), he is critisized for intensity or passion from what I've heard. Then he gets told, 'WTF' by his coaches, gets 4 sacks, then goes back to normal.

He is motivated and all, unlike Big Gabe(look at Joe's body vs. Gabe's), and coaches see that, and think they can get him to be consistently dominant.

Texas waited for him(but not long enough for him), USC pushed hard, UM wanted him, but he told him to go home, LSU ND OSU more BCS teams that wanted him. All the top teams wanted this kid, and bad, just like RoJo. He has flaws, but also has ridiculous talent.

Just heard Jeremy Crabtree of Rivals.com rave for a couple minutes about Chris Colosanti who has committed to Penn St.
I'm kind of sick of people calling Penn St "Linebacker U". Talk about a myth, just because they have a revival with Posluszny and ONE good season in the last TEN doesn't mean shit.
Either this kid just had a Penn State fetish, or UM let him slip out of their grasp.
And yes, I can't BELIEVE every kid in Michigan doesn't want to go to Michigan. So there.
I know I did, but I stopped growing in third grade.

Colasanti always had a boner for PSU.

Say, anyone else hear about Colosanti tearing his knee up this morning chasing his pet cat "Mr Dinsmore" around his parent's basement?
Just curious.

He's sick good, he has an NFL body today.

At the same time he is inconsistant(as I've said), he is critisized for intensity or passion from what I've heard. Then he gets told, 'WTF' by his coaches, gets 4 sacks, then goes back to normal.

He is motivated and all, unlike Big Gabe(look at Joe's body vs. Gabe's), and coaches see that, and think they can get him to be consistently dominant.

Texas waited for him(but not long enough for him), USC pushed hard, UM wanted him, but he told him to go home, LSU ND OSU more BCS teams that wanted him. All the top teams wanted this kid, and bad, just like RoJo. He has flaws, but also has ridiculous talent.

The comparison to gabe watson is right on...They way the both played in High school mirror eachother...They both disappear during games..That is fact...Barksdale could end up being very dominate.He has the skills and size to be...It will all come down to if he wants it...I wish him the best of luck at whatever school he chooses...

I've been reading with interest on the declining stock of JB. What is interesting is that when a player shows little or no interest in the U of Mum the rep starts going south. My favorite? "He didn't have the grades to get into A2". Oh in other words "dude, is no Marcus Slocum, eh?" What a screeching riot!! Grades? As if!! Since that is not the case with JB and the fact that he is a good student can be documented it's "he's like "Buffet Watson". He takes plays off." OK you Blue Gas Bags, he's going to OSU or MSU deal!!! [smilie=reporter.gi:

I've been reading with interest on the declining stock of JB. What is interesting is that when a player shows little or no interest in the U of Mum the rep starts going south. My favorite? "He didn't have the grades to get into A2". Oh in other words "dude, is no Marcus Slocum, eh?" What a screeching riot!! Grades? As if!! Since that is not the case with JB and the fact that he is a good student can be documented it's "he's like "Buffet Watson". He takes plays off." OK you Blue Gas Bags, he's going to OSU or MSU deal!!! [smilie=reporter.gi:

Again, I know how he plays from seeing him play 4 times.....What is even funnier is people like you always bring up the "because he did not go to Michigan" thing.Again,he compares to watson in the way he plays..If you say he does not take plays off,then you are either related to him or have never seen him play..

I understand the comparison to Gabe from a inconsistent point of view. But, his speed and height don't reflect that. Many say he moves like a linebacker, but the dude is 6'6" and over 300. That is a ridiculous combination. But, I haven't seen him in person so only time will tell.

Sounds like Michigan may be closing in on a decision from a recruit very soon. Michael Williams is going to announce at the Army AA game between Michigan and Notre Dame. Lorenzo Edwards has Michigan in his final group of schools and the recruit in question right now is Doug Wiggins. Wiggins is a thuggish, braided Corner from Miami. I honestly don't know much about him (joking about being thuggish), but stealing any CB from Miami would be kick ass in my book. If Michigan can land Wiggins, Lorenzo Edwards, Michael Williams and Rojo we could go from a so-so secondary to a potentially loaded group of DB's.

I've read that we're recruiting Williams as a nickel, not a true CB. Wiggins (from Miami, yes, but I'm under the impression Georgia is our biggest competition for him) is a CB that's not the fastest or the biggest (5'10", 180, 4.5) but he's athletic and must have other qualities to make him a 4 star guy. RoJo is obviously an instant starter anywhere, probably CB though he could play safety as well. With Finch, Chambers, and Woolfolk already in the fold, I really think Lo Edwards should play LB if he commits. I think he could end up like a Prescott Burgess.

I understand the comparison to Gabe from a inconsistent point of view. But, his speed and height don't reflect that. Many say he moves like a linebacker, but the dude is 6'6" and over 300. That is a ridiculous combination. But, I haven't seen him in person so only time will tell.

That is all im saying,is his work ethic is very compairable..They were both heads and shoulders better than anyone they went up against their senior years,yet disappeared during games which is not a good trait to have...Im not compairing body type as there is a huge difference there.But Gabe is in the NFL and that is the potential that Barksdale has..

Looks like Wiggins is announcing tonight at his HS football banquet, so we'll know within a matter of hours on him.

Looks like Wiggins is announcing tonight at his HS football banquet, so we'll know within a matter of hours on him.

I hear its looking good...Michigan could end up with 4 huge DB commits in the coming days.....

Chris Rucker of Detroit Country Day committed to the Spartans. MSU was recruiting Rucker as a slot receiver and I think he'll fit in perfectly. Rucker is the defending 100 M State Champion. Speed kills so this commitment might be a good one.

Chris Rucker of Detroit Country Day committed to the Spartans. MSU was recruiting Rucker as a slot receiver and I think he'll fit in perfectly. Rucker is the defending 100 M State Champion. Speed kills so this commitment might be a good one.

That is a nice pick up by the Spartans.......

It's nice to get a kid that was offered by the likes of Iowa and Purdon't. That said nobody is going to confuse him with RoJo either. Currently it looks like MSU is rated 9th in the Big 10 in recruiting so the term "cautious optimism" is in play here. IT comes with the shift in coaching staff everytime. Dantonio will be challenged to "coach 'em up" and so it will be baby steps over a long arduous process AGAIN. Then as Green Fans know that's part of the beauty (???) of being an MSU fan. Get those hopes up and then______________. Coach D has a lot of irons in the fire hopefully heating up over the so called NCAA "dead period". How big would Barksdale be in the fall of the dominoes? I remember how MSUFAN was holding out hope for Saginaw Highs' Woodley & Jackson right down to the last moment. We all saw how that turned out. To say Sparty is due for a good break is the understatement of the year.

It's nice to get a kid that was offered by the likes of Iowa and Purdon't. That said nobody is going to confuse him with RoJo either. Currently it looks like MSU is rated 9th in the Big 10 in recruiting so the term "cautious optimism" is in play here. IT comes with the shift in coaching staff everytime. Dantonio will be challenged to "coach 'em up" and so it will be baby steps over a long arduous process AGAIN. Then as Green Fans know that's part of the beauty (???) of being an MSU fan. Get those hopes up and then______________. Coach D has a lot of irons in the fire hopefully heating up over the so called NCAA "dead period". How big would Barksdale be in the fall of the dominoes? I remember how MSUFAN was holding out hope for Saginaw Highs' Woodley & Jackson right down to the last moment. We all saw how that turned out. To say Sparty is due for a good break is the understatement of the year.

Good post, and I agree. Barksdale is the big fish. He would be so important not just as a defensive stud, but as a statment. His commitment would be a statement to other recruits that things are changing, it would also show that Dantonio might be for real.

Antwise Perez has left USC and is looking to transfer.

Michigan was his #2 school when he committed. There has been talk between the 2.

Wiggins announces tonight it is between Georgia, Miami and UM.

Perez to Maryland...Wiggins to Michigan.

Jick, is this speculation or do you have some source?

According to rivals, Wiggins announces tonight.

both from Rivals insiders...I believe Perez is a done deal.

Rucker is a solid get.

Should play a lot on ST's pretty quick.

We'll see if he ends up getting a lot of play in other areas, but he should do a ton on ST's.

How do you go from USC to Maryland?

How do you go from USC to Maryland?

By not playing at USC, and being from the east coast.

From Texas to Houston or TCU(did Snead decide yet) would be a bigger question. A&M or Tech wouldn't take him?

Verballed to Ole Miss. Woo-woo![smilie=reporter.gi:

Verballed to Ole Miss. Woo-woo![smilie=reporter.gi:

Wow.

Surprised he left Texas(the state).

Congrats to Ole Miss.

Wiggins to Miami...appears the rivals insider was wrong.

looks like Lloyd may have tapped out for the year. Gotta get Rojo to seal off a very good year, though.

scouts.com has Ashton Leggett committing to State. Any chance he brings RoJo with him?

Where I live, we get a weekly half hour segment with Jeremy Crabtree of Rivals, and he still, FWIW, insists that Rojo is a UM lean, after that it's USC. I call him nearly every week with the Rojo question, and he doens't think MSU has a chance.

scouts.com has Ashton Leggett committing to State. Any chance he brings RoJo with him?

Hopefully, but I doubt it.

And Sorry to whomever said Barks to LSU and I ripped, Kurilic thinks Barks is a LSU lean now. Which to me means, they don't think he's going to OSU, which puts LSU in a better spot than I though before. We'll see where he lands, but I shouldn't of considered it ludicrous. But the OSU guys say they don't think it's OSU, which is quite interesting, and a surprise.

Hopefully, but I doubt it.

And Sorry to whomever said Barks to LSU and I ripped, Kurilic thinks Barks is a LSU lean now. Which to me means, they don't think he's going to OSU, which puts LSU in a better spot than I though before. We'll see where he lands, but I shouldn't of considered it ludicrous. But the OSU guys say they don't think it's OSU, which is quite interesting, and a surprise.

I understand the skepticism being that I was new to the site at the time,and really still am..As far as RoJo,from everyone that I know that deals with recruiting and some contacts RoJo is either going to Michigan or USC..His USC visit was not all that great according to some.I honestly would be surprised if he went anywhere else...

As far as Liggett goes,he is a fantastic player..If it is true that he is going to state,it is a fantastic pick up for MSU..

Yes indeed, Ashton Leggett to MSU. I'm really excited about this pickup. I haven't seen him play much, but I like the idea of 225 pd back at State with a power running game.

He is the best back in the state and his numbers are pretty gawdy. I like this pickup a lot!

Yes indeed, Ashton Leggett to MSU. I'm really excited about this pickup. I haven't seen him play much, but I like the idea of 225 pd back at State with a power running game.

He is the best back in the state and his numbers are pretty gawdy. I like this pickup a lot!


Leggett really blew in under the radar too. The guy is a very tough back. People will immediately say he will fill the bill as the Fullback in Dantonio's system. Nuh-uh. He will carry the mail. He has legit 4.6/4.7 speed which isn't all that but put it together with good instincts, quick feet and good hips (see Jehruu and think opposite) and MSU has a very good back. Soft hands and head on a swivel out of the backfield too.
So now everyone wants him to whisper in his H.S. teammates ear, RoJo, to "come on a long" to E.L. Nice thought but this ain't no TV show that ends all warm and slappy. It ain't happening. I gotz to believe the esteemed Mr. Goshboots. RoJo will be a Meeeechigan Man so I start hatin' on him anytime now. Remember there is NO accounting for personal taste.
One of these days (I'm nearly ready to believe this myself) one of these 5-stars is gonna' grow a pair and come out with "God I hate those fucking ugly helmets and those hideous fucking yellow pants. I'm not a canary and I'm not gay. They've had their run long enough and me and my buddy Joey Barksdale are going to MSU and we're serving notice. New SoupeeStarz in town.Move over Beethoven"!

Yes indeed, Ashton Leggett to MSU. I'm really excited about this pickup. I haven't seen him play much, but I like the idea of 225 pd back at State with a power running game.

He is the best back in the state and his numbers are pretty gawdy. I like this pickup a lot!

Jehuu Caulcrick anyone? How's that working out?

Jehuu Caulcrick anyone? How's that working out?

That's not a power running game, that's a big back. Big Back /= Power Running game. Caultrick has no balls and plays like he's 6'6", which blows for a RB.

Leggett hits somebody, Caultrick is a 250 pounder who tries to beat you with his speed.

One of these days (I'm nearly ready to believe this myself) one of these 5-stars is gonna' grow a pair and come out with "God I hate those fucking ugly helmets and those hideous fucking yellow pants. I'm not a canary and I'm not gay. They've had their run long enough and me and my buddy Joey Barksdale are going to MSU and we're serving notice. New SoupeeStarz in town.Move over Beethoven"!

I think Drew Stanton tried that and look how that turned out for him........:)

I think Drew Stanton tried that and look how that turned out for him........:)

Besides you still have skid marks in your yellow undies from the flogging Drew and Co. were putting on you at the "Great Big High School Field" before he was injured at the half. Drew's problem was a heavy dosage of "Macho". He played hurt way too much. Like the last 4-5 games his junior year and most of his senior year. I give him props for at least trying. Kiper still has him going in the 1st round of the NFL Draft. Hmmmm.

Besides you still have skid marks in your yellow undies from the flogging Drew and Co. were putting on you at the "Great Big High School Field" before he was injured at the half. Drew's problem was a heavy dosage of "Macho". He played hurt way too much. Like the last 4-5 games his junior year and most of his senior year. I give him props for at least trying. Kiper still has him going in the 1st round of the NFL Draft. Hmmmm.

lol at your jealousy of Michigan.....lol at you going by Kiper and his draft board..

lol at your jealousy of Michigan.....lol at you going by Kiper and his draft board..

What's more painful do you suppose? Being mediocre for 40 years or being a fucking gasbag and going on about all this "elite of elite", "Harvard of the Midwest" horseshit then after you run your gums, after the most recent bowl beatdown about "running the table next fall..blah x3," and you venture out of a 5 state area and get your ass handed to you AGAIN!!! Of course you do have that .5 NC to preen about over the last 50 years. As Colin Cowherd once said, "Meeechigan? Never has so little come from so much and yapped about it more". Hey they don't call you A4 for nothin'. USC 114- Gasbags GOTZ!!!


Yeah, what does Kiper know about the draft?

What's more painful do you suppose? Being mediocre for 40 years or being a fucking gasbag and going on about all this "elite of elite", "Harvard of the Midwest" horseshit then after you run your gums, after the most recent bowl beatdown about "running the table next fall..blah x3," and you venture out of a 5 state area and get your ass handed to you AGAIN!!! Of course you do have that .5 NC to preen about over the last 50 years. As Colin Cowherd once said, "Meeechigan? Never has so little come from so much and yapped about it more". Hey they don't call you A4 for nothin'. USC 114- Gasbags GOTZ!!!


Yeah, what does Kiper know about the draft?

Ask Mike Williams what Kiper knows about the draft...lol

And quoting Cowherd? You have to be more intelligent than that....If what you wrote does not show your jealousy,Im not sure what else would...

By the way,what has your school accomplished?

Yeah, I'll admit it. I'm very jealous of Michigan. I hope Dantonio can get us to the point where we win 10 games, lose every year to Ohio State, and then tank it in a bowl game. LOL

Sorry arrogant UM fans, you are NOT the standard. If we were to be jealous of anyone in football, it would be Ohio State.

While you speak of jealousy you dream at night about having a basketball arena that has BT, Final Four, and National Championship banners hanging with Tom Izzo standing below.

Ask Mike Williams what Kiper knows about the draft...lol

And quoting Cowherd? You have to be more intelligent than that....If what you wrote does not show your jealousy,Im not sure what else would...

By the way,what has your school accomplished?

FROM THE OFFICIAL A4 COVEN HANDBOOK, (pg 1.)

"When the disparagers start about our regional prowess (yet you know we are a National Force, right?) you will reply to them in your very best automaton monotone, "You are jealous and you are envious."

Excellent gasbag. Lesson well learned.

Oh you think it was only Kiper who had Williams the #10 overall talent on the draft board?

Oops lost my head. What do you know about football with those blue & yellow pom-poms duct taped to you fartbox constantly proclaiming "hey, we're really good......aren't we?'

"Go Blew.......it out your ass".

Listen to Cowherd a little more. It'll be cheaper than an intervention!

Actually Kiper had Mike Williams as #1 on his board.

But this isn't my argument - I'll hang up and listen.

Actually Kiper had Mike Williams as #1 on his board.

But this isn't my argument - I'll hang up and listen.

"http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=19811"
The above link will take you to his picks for that year. He had Alex Smith #1 and in order, Benson, Rodgers, Braylon, Carnell Williams, PacMan Jones, Cody, Ronnie Brown and Mike Williams.

If Blue-Hoo wants to crack on Mel Kiper/Mike Williams whatever. Look at the gaggle of cadavers he gets to play with.

How about fucking talking about football recruiting you dumbasses? There are 250 other threads to talk about this other shit, but get your basketball banners and Mel Kiper the fuck out of this thread. Good lord. What the hell happened to this place?

Yeah, I know every thread in here is fair game for multiple sports and UM v MSU, but Mike fucking Williams and Mel Kiper? Get a job.

How about fucking talking about football recruiting you dumbasses? There are 250 other threads to talk about this other shit, but get your basketball banners and Mel Kiper the fuck out of this thread. Good lord. What the hell happened to this place?

Yeah, I know every thread in here is fair game for multiple sports and UM v MSU, but Mike fucking Williams and Mel Kiper? Get a job.

I believe it all started when a couple of MSU fans posted about the excitement brought on with the commitment of Ashton Leggett. Instead of not posting or posting about UM commitments, UM fans showed up in typical fashion to take unprovoked shots at MSU, their players, and past players.

I believe it all started when a couple of MSU fans posted about the excitement brought on with the commitment of Ashton Leggett. Instead of not posting or posting about UM commitments, UM fans showed up in typical fashion to take unprovoked shots at MSU, their players, and past players.

RoJo will be a Meeeechigan Man so I start hatin' on him anytime now. Remember there is NO accounting for personal taste.
One of these days (I'm nearly ready to believe this myself) one of these 5-stars is gonna' grow a pair and come out with "God I hate those fucking ugly helmets and those hideous fucking yellow pants. I'm not a canary and I'm not gay. They've had their run long enough and me and my buddy Joey Barksdale are going to MSU and we're serving notice. New SoupeeStarz in town.Move over Beethoven"!


Sorry arrogant UM fans, you are NOT the standard. If we were to be jealous of anyone in football, it would be Ohio State.

While you speak of jealousy you dream at night about having a basketball arena that has BT, Final Four, and National Championship banners hanging with Tom Izzo standing below.



I believe it all started when a couple of MSU fans posted about the excitement brought on with the commitment of Ashton Leggett. Instead of not posting or posting about UM commitments, UM fans showed up in typical fashion to take unprovoked shots at MSU, their players, and past players.

I gotta admit that I think you have taken whining to a whole new level when dr. tre and hipdigit take multiple personal shots at u-m fans, while u-m fans don't really say anything personal. (just a couple good-natured ribs after hipdigit's babyish pissfest). Then you both act personally insulted and like you have taken the high road all along. Too funny.... thanks for the good laugh.

I have no idea why you bother to quote when your quotes don't show anything.

Why is it that when Spartan fans come strong we are "taking things personal" ??? You guys ripped State, we came back. Get over it.

Honestly, I don't care and I don't want to stear this thread farther off course. There is just no way a rational unbiased person could start reading this thread from the commitment of whoever and come to the conclusion that u-m fans caused this mess. Hipdigit sounds like the red-headed step child in therapy (in every post) and you started talking about your messiah (Izzo) for no apparent reason. Then you both complain about u-m fans starting this mess when it is obvious that hipdigit is the match and you are adding more fuel than anyone else. I post threads showing this. I could really just go back and quote every post for the last 2 pages, because it is obvious how this thread came untracked. Go ahead and rip u-m all you want, you and your sparty friend. Your comments just amplify your pettiness. However, I defy you to prove that u-m fans started this based on the last 2 pages. I actually find you amusing , so i can't really complain. After a couple months of following this site, I just find your lack of logic mystifying and can't imagine how anyone can take you seriously.

Back on course, does the u-m qb recruit have any mobility (at least more than navarre). I know he's likely much better than navarre, but i still have visions of a tall gumpy quarterback standing in the pocket like a statue waiting to be sacked. I really think mobile quarterbacks are the future in college football. Even if they are primarily pocket passers, some threat of running and escapability are crucial.

I believe it all started when a couple of MSU fans posted about the excitement brought on with the commitment of Ashton Leggett. Instead of not posting or posting about UM commitments, UM fans showed up in typical fashion to take unprovoked shots at MSU, their players, and past players.

I really hope you were not talking about me...I applauded the landing of Leggett..Your boy HipDigIt was the one who started this crap.His posts show intelligence at its best....I never called "YOU" jealous...So why bring that up? If your gonna take shots at me,make sure I said something instead of assuming please....

Typical in the least.

I made a post that I was pleased with the pick up of the Legett kid. I also said somewhat tongue in cheek that it was going to take a 4-5 Star with some guts to realize he has the ability to be a difference maker in selecting MSU in stepping up to the challenge. Look and see what follows. A slam at Caulcrick followed by a shot at Stanton. Reading is fundamental.

In an attempt to get back on track U-M's guy Mallett has the John Navarre gene in that he has all the mobility of a fire hydrant. That said if you don't want him we'll take him. I believe he was the number one recruit out of Tejas. He's got a rocket launcher for an arm and is pretty damn accurate according to the reports I read from the "Elite 11". Next year he gets to learn from Henne and step right in. Good get for them.

I made a post that I was pleased with the pick up of the Legett kid. I also said somewhat tongue in cheek that it was going to take a 4-5 Star with some guts to realize he has the ability to be a difference maker in selecting MSU in stepping up to the challenge. Look and see what follows. A slam at Caulcrick followed by a shot at Stanton. Reading is fundamental.
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You came out originally and said


Originally Posted by HipDigIt
One of these days (I'm nearly ready to believe this myself) one of these 5-stars is gonna' grow a pair and come out with "God I hate those fucking ugly helmets and those hideous fucking yellow pants. I'm not a canary and I'm not gay. They've had their run long enough and me and my buddy Joey Barksdale are going to MSU and we're serving notice. New SoupeeStarz in town.Move over Beethoven"!

That was a slam at Michigan..It was also eerily familiar to what Stanton said about the helmets and pants.(without the swearing)..

I said


I think Drew Stanton tried that and look how that turned out for him

Which is true..Him and Ajim Shabazz came in as big time recruits and were not able to beat Michigan.. It had nothing to do with the talent both had as they are both good talents..Hell,Drew will be drafted anywhere from first to third round....They were not put in position to win by a horrible coaching staff..Hopefully that will now change with MSU as they have hired,in my opinion, a very good coach..I did not slam Caulcrick as I believe he is a beast..

So disagreement now over..Back to recruiting talk......

Wow, almost a dozen more posts about pointing fingers. Who cares? Use a different thread. I would at least like to hear about football recruiting in one out of every three posts in this thread.

So....I see on Scout.com that Rojo has apparently set a decision date, and on rivals.com it claims he'll be visiting OSU on Jan 12. Anyone know when that decision date is?

Wow, almost a dozen more posts about pointing fingers. Who cares? Use a different thread. I would at least like to hear about football recruiting in one out of every three posts in this thread.

So....I see on Scout.com that Rojo has apparently set a decision date, and on rivals.com it claims he'll be visiting OSU on Jan 12. Anyone know when that decision date is?

Signing day.

And in MSU new WOTS is that Fanuzzi doesn't like Shannon at Miami, so we have a good shot at him. We'll see though.

Not surprised. Shannon is a "D" guy with no OC. Koetter from ASU supposedly has been offered the job (among 4 others some in the NFL allegedly) but hasn't bitten. Just a gut feeling but I get the distinct feeling the bloom is off the rose in Miamitown. Lots of peeps seeing Shannon a band aid on a surgical wound. We'll see.

Signing day.

And in MSU new WOTS is that Fanuzzi doesn't like Shannon at Miami, so we have a good shot at him. We'll see though.

I want Fanuzzi BAD. The kid looks flat out awesome. He is extremely fast. The videos of him are impressive, I don't see how he's not a 4 star. If he's good enough for Miami, he's good enough for me.

I want Fanuzzi BAD. The kid looks flat out awesome. He is extremely fast. The videos of him are impressive, I don't see how he's not a 4 star. If he's good enough for Miami, he's good enough for me.

He looks sick and he's playing in the Army AA game, Miami and the Army AA game and his film = one hell of a recruit. Rumors have us getting a damn good shot at him. Don't want to get too excited yet though.

Also, scout is reporting that Chase Dumphord OL(OG probably) from Kentucky has committed to MSU. 3 star on scout, 2 star on Rivals. Scout says he has offers from Auburn, Kentucky, Louisville, and obviously MSU. Rivals doesn't include the Auburn one. He is friends with McGraha apparently.

Ishmyl Johnson DE from Milford Academy recommits to MSU per Scout. 3 star on scout, 2 on Rivals. Supposed to be a pretty solid BBall kid too, so he's got some athleticism. Offers from MSU, 'Cuse, Pitt, and Illinois per Scout and Rivals.

Oh, and Dumphord was All-Region BBall in Kentucky, and hopes to be All State this year, he's averaging 20 and 13 so far this year. Pretty good for a Olineman. Probably just eats people, but shows some athleticism.

RoJo on MSU-

“Michigan State is a good school and all, and I’m going to go down there and check it out, but I don’t think I can really fit into what they have down there as good as Ashton will or Corey,” Johnson said. “They have a good program, and there’s no telling how I’m going to like them after my visit, but I’d say now I don’t fit in.”

RoJo on MSU-

“Michigan State is a good school and all, and I’m going to go down there and check it out, but I don’t think I can really fit into what they have down there as good as Ashton will or Corey,” Johnson said. “They have a good program, and there’s no telling how I’m going to like them after my visit, but I’d say now I don’t fit in.”

Where's this from?

While Scout claims Mumphord is on the Dantonio train Rivals Jim Comparoni spoke with him late last night (Fri.) and the kid said emphatically he had not made his decision. Stand by.

While Scout claims Mumphord is on the Dantonio train Rivals Jim Comparoni spoke with him late last night (Fri.) and the kid said emphatically he had not made his decision. Stand by.

Scout is a joke. They are like are like a recruiting tabloid. I have never once found a report from rivals to be untrue. I've found several reports from scout that turned out to be untrue. ex. Crawford transferring to MSU, MSU names head coach Monday, etc.

If they report it, it is probably inaccurate. I'll wait for rivals to tell us.

Where's this from?

Rivals.com, The Wolverine, Inside the Fort. I can't post a link because it's a premium page.

Here's RoJo's coach Tony Annese on his college choices (from rivals)-

"I think he is really considering Ohio State, Michigan, USC and Florida," Annese said.

Rivals.com, The Wolverine, Inside the Fort. I can't post a link because it's a premium page.

Here's RoJo's coach Tony Annese on his college choices (from rivals)-

"I think he is really considering Ohio State, Michigan, USC and Florida," Annese said.

Has Annese been able to successfully remove the blue & yellow face paint from 1997 yet?

Hipster:
Will you PLEASE try and get over the fact that Michigan was robbed, and Nebraska received a gift by winning their half of the NC?

Rivals.com, The Wolverine, Inside the Fort. I can't post a link because it's a premium page.

Here's RoJo's coach Tony Annese on his college choices (from rivals)-

"I think he is really considering Ohio State, Michigan, USC and Florida," Annese said.

Inside the Fort? Then it's BS, you put that in an artivle if there is a real quote.

And Annesse went to UM, coached at AAP, and thinks he's getting a job if RoJo goes to UM. Not saying that his words are neccesarily false, just that he isn't a reliable source.

Inside the Fort is the premium article they put out once a week giving insider knowledge.

Then I'll have to read it.

Here is a little snip-it from an article that was premium about Barksdale....


"I've been committed for a couple of weeks now," said Barksdale. "In fact, I'm already enrolled there and I begin classes in a few weeks. I've already told the two teams I'm not choosing and I'm surprised that it hasn't leaked out yet. You won't hear it from me until Saturday, but I've known for awhile."

If you're a betting man, put your money on LSU in this race. Ohio State was at one time Barksdale's leader but the Tigers have apparently won this battle in the end if you go by rumors around the practice field.

Here is a little snip-it from an article that was premium about Barksdale....

I heard LSU too. Props to Tommy, I thought you were crazy.

I guess I am surprised only because of the distance from his folks. I've always heard that they are a very close family. I never really thought he'd go to State. Glad he'll not be in the Big 10 to make life miserable for MSU. Good luck to him.

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Former U-M target and USC freshman Antwine Perez is transferring, and is down to Michigan and Maryland.

Michigan fans might remember the name Antwine Perez from the recruiting scene a year ago, with the 6-1, 200 pound safety out of Camden (N.J.) Woodrow Wilson choosing to attend Southern Cal over the Maize and Blue. A member of the Rivals100, he was rated as the No. 29 prospect in the nation. However, he has decided to transfer, and while Minnesota and Maryland have been tossed around as likely destinations, the Wolverines also appear to be in the mix.

"It's down to Maryland and Michigan," he said in an update with TerrapinTimes.com. "I'm not going to visit Michigan. I've been there before. Like I said, I'm coming with my dad and my coach to Maryland on January 2. I want to meet the Maryland coaches, see the facilities, and get to know the players."

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTWINEPEREZ9_29150A.JPG

Former U-M target and USC freshman Antwine Perez is transferring, and is down to Michigan and Maryland.

Michigan fans might remember the name Antwine Perez from the recruiting scene a year ago, with the 6-1, 200 pound safety out of Camden (N.J.) Woodrow Wilson choosing to attend Southern Cal over the Maize and Blue. A member of the Rivals100, he was rated as the No. 29 prospect in the nation. However, he has decided to transfer, and while Minnesota and Maryland have been tossed around as likely destinations, the Wolverines also appear to be in the mix.

"It's down to Maryland and Michigan," he said in an update with TerrapinTimes.com. "I'm not going to visit Michigan. I've been there before. Like I said, I'm coming with my dad and my coach to Maryland on January 2. I want to meet the Maryland coaches, see the facilities, and get to know the players."
I'd heard Maryland for sure, it's not? Interesting. Congrats for you that you're even in on it.

Yeah, it sounds like he's Maryland bound fo sho. I was just shocked when I read that we were even being considered.

Mike Johnson (QB recruit) says MSU has a QB commit already, believed to be Fanuzzi. I'm thinking Fanuzzi doesn't want to make it public till he's absopositvelutly sure in order not to decommit and recommit to Maimi, pissing off fans.

But rumors have Fanuzzi = MSU. And people are committing to one side on Barksdale - mostly LSU, but some MSU. LSU is clearly the fave though.

Mike Johnson (QB recruit) says MSU has a QB commit already, believed to be Fanuzzi. I'm thinking Fanuzzi doesn't want to make it public till he's absopositvelutly sure in order not to decommit and recommit to Maimi, pissing off fans.

But rumors have Fanuzzi = MSU. And people are committing to one side on Barksdale - mostly LSU, but some MSU. LSU is clearly the fave though.

I will be ecstatic if we get Fanuzzi. I don't know, maybe I've got killer blinders on but from the rivals videos I've seen, Fanuzzi looked just as impressive as Nichol. Fanuzzi looked faster, Nichol a little better arm. This would be a great pickup!

Fanuzzi? Wasn't he the guy that was running things in young Vito Corleone's town in the Godfather II?

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Fanuzzi? Wasn't he the guy that was running things in young Vito Corleone's town in the Godfather II?

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No he is the kid going to the Army AA game.

Also we're in on Mike Johnson, some QB who apparantly had a crazy senior year(3000+ yards, 31/4 TD/INT or something like that) He's 6'2" and runs a 4.6. No stars, offers not disclosed, but visited Arkansas, and will visit MSU, UNC, probably Miami(good sign about Fanuzzi BTW), and OSU, weird.

One kid I really want: Chimenze Okoli - 2 star DT - Offered by PSU, VTech, and a few other places. I want D kids offered by those teams. 2nd year playing football.

I checked into Fanuzzi just to see if my eyes were lying to me. My Sporting News College Football Mag has Fanuzzi ranked higher than Nichol. Miami QB heading to State? I'm feelin it!

Nothings happened yet, but Johnson said MSU had a QB commit and he's the only logical one, and there've been rumors he likes MSU a lot, and dislikes Shannon.

According to Rivals, Fanuzzi is a 3 star who's committed to Miami.

According to Rivals, Fanuzzi is a 3 star who's committed to Miami.

He is 3 star in Rivals, 4 in Scout.

He is going to the Army AA game.

He is reconsidering his position with the coaching change at Miami.

Official - Barks to LSU.

That sucks.

nice call tommyz

nice call tommyz

Truth. LSU was out per everybody, except you, good call.

Rumors have Fanuzzi leaning heavy MSU.

Lost in all this is 4 star DB Michael Williams committing to Michigan.

Lost in all this is 4 star DB Michael Williams committing to Michigan.

Congrats on that.

You missed out on Romine too though, which hurts you guys(McGaha was the backup for Romine, but McGaha is supposed to be firm).

Hope to see Dell burn Williams a lot in these coming years.

Hey Tre........

Remember when we were talking about Big Barksdale and I told you that he wasn't even the best player on his team.............

Boubacar Cissoko, from Detroit Cass Tech, was named MVP of the Army Allstar Junior Combine and will likely be rated in the Top 10 when rankings come out for the newest batch of High School Juniors.

Congrats on that.

You missed out on Romine too though, which hurts you guys(McGaha was the backup for Romine, but McGaha is supposed to be firm).

Hope to see Dell burn Williams a lot in these coming years.

We missed out on both Romine and Lorenzo Edwards. We'll need one of the best OL classes in the country next year considering how weak this one is for us compared to our needs.

And as for Dell v Williams - hopefully Williams will be lined up against Cunningham, with RoJo (or Donovan Warren) handling Dell. (fingers crossed)

Good call on Cissoko, I was telling Mood the same thing about him. And I know a LOT of things can happen and it is really early, but he is the same type of player as ROJO, not as explosive, but is a serious canidate for an early commit right after signing day.

Cissiko is supposed to be a UM lean. Damn.

He's short though. That's his downside.

Good call on Cissoko, I was telling Mood the same thing about him. And I know a LOT of things can happen and it is really early, but he is the same type of player as ROJO, not as explosive, but is a serious canidate for an early commit right after signing day.

I think he's going to try to get the big time offer list 1st. But that's just my feeling.

First off, props to tommyz. I didn't post anything, but I thought you were nuts when you first posted about Barksdale going to LSU. Keep coming with the info playa.

Now, to the Army All-American game. I really don't think this is cornbread here, but I think Ryan Mallett was the best player on the field. He finished second in the MVP voting to 5 star LB Chris Galippo. The guy has absolutely the strongest arm I've ever seen. He came out firing away with a 27 yard bullet to Ahmad Paige. I know Claussen got all they hype all year and on the broadcast, but it's obvious that he was outplayed by Mallett. I love Chad Henne, but I think Mallett is more talented and I can't wait for him to be the starting quarterback at Michigan. I've been browsing the national recruiting message boards on Rivals and everyone is calling for Mallett to be the highest rated QB, some even saying the #1 PROSPECT in the country.


The Army Bowl did not reveal that Mallett is a great quarterback - we already knew that - it really showed just how great of a leader the Texas talent can be. The arm strength is unparalleled, probably by any quarterback coming out of high school ever, but the attitude and charisma is also very unique to the big kid with the huge arm.

While Michigan fans wait with unparalleled anticipation for Mallett to strap on the maize and blue helmet, he joins them in that excitement.

"I leave tomorrow," he told NBC Sports. " I can't wait to get there."

For the game, Mallett was 6-of-9 for 91 yards and one touchdown. He lead the West squad on three of their four scoring drives and had a fourth, his final of the game, end on the East's eight-yard line when time expired and the West running out the clock.

Claussen was 6-12 for 43 yards and a pick.

A few other cats that stood out in the game, Noel Devine is sick, Everson Griffen is sick, Eugene Clifford is sick and Fanuzzi looked horrible.

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The #1 QB in the country.

Just some other info I have heard..RoJo has stated that he will take all his visits just to expieriment everything..With that said,he will end up at Michigan and starting next year..

Cissoko was the best player on Cass Tech this year.Even though he is small,he can be a shut down corner. He is a very strong Michigan lean,but will end up taking visits.Michigan will probably have to wait on him like they are doing with Rojo....Just what I heard...

By the way,for you MSU fans.I talked to someone about the Fanuzzi-MSU thing and said there was no truth to any of the rumors...That is just my person but im sure some of you have more inside stuff than I do about MSU...

One last thing.I forgot what Mag had Fanuzzi rated higher than Mallett..That is just rediculous...

First off, props to tommyz. I didn't post anything, but I thought you were nuts when you first posted about Barksdale going to LSU. Keep coming with the info playa.

Now, to the Army All-American game. I really don't think this is cornbread here, but I think Ryan Mallett was the best player on the field. He finished second in the MVP voting to 5 star LB Chris Galippo. The guy has absolutely the strongest arm I've ever seen. He came out firing away with a 27 yard bullet to Ahmad Paige. I know Claussen got all they hype all year and on the broadcast, but it's obvious that he was outplayed by Mallett. I love Chad Henne, but I think Mallett is more talented and I can't wait for him to be the starting quarterback at Michigan. I've been browsing the national recruiting message boards on Rivals and everyone is calling for Mallett to be the highest rated QB, some even saying the #1 PROSPECT in the country.

Claussen was 6-12 for 43 yards and a pick.

A few other cats that stood out in the game, Noel Devine is sick, Everson Griffen is sick, Eugene Clifford is sick and Fanuzzi looked horrible.


Agreed - Props to TommyZ.

Mallett looked good(but #1 prospect, and all that, umm no), Clausen bad, or at best average.

Devine, Griffen, and Clifford = STUDS.

Fanuzzi and Tyrod Taylor - really needed the opprotunity to roll out rather than drop back and get swarmed by sweet DE's.

Fanuzzi looked rusty I'd say, his INT was 1 foot away from being a perfect TD, but was ugly as is. He also had some pass to no one. He had some positives = on his one roll out, he faked like he was going to run and had a great little flip pass to either the RB or a slot over coverage. Also showed a solid build and all, but really looked rusty.

I was underwhelmed with Fanuzzi's performance in the AA game, but his regular film still looks very good. Not like I'm going to drop a kid off the map for 1 ASG in January.

Clifford deserves a 5th star though(WOW).

The West O = didn't impress me, West D was SICK though. East O had some great individuals(Benn and Devine) - but that line got completely and utterly destroyed. The other Florida RB(Rainey?) = overrated as all hell, he can juke and dance around people, but makes dumb moves and is SOOO East/West it's not even funny.

Just some other info I have heard..RoJo has stated that he will take all his visits just to expieriment everything..With that said,he will end up at Michigan and starting next year..

Cissoko was the best player on Cass Tech this year.Even though he is small,he can be a shut down corner. He is a very strong Michigan lean,but will end up taking visits.Michigan will probably have to wait on him like they are doing with Rojo....Just what I heard...

By the way,for you MSU fans.I talked to someone about the Fanuzzi-MSU thing and said there was no truth to any of the rumors...That is just my person but im sure some of you have more inside stuff than I do about MSU...

One last thing.I forgot what Mag had Fanuzzi rated higher than Mallett..That is just rediculous...

Do you know or think RoJo to UM - just wondering.

That sounds about right for Cissoko.

On Fanuzzi, he did visit, and that is straight up fact. Whether he is leaning MSU/Miami/Our Lady of the Saints, I'm not sure. However Scout, Rivals, and Texas people have all said this, which leads me to believe that it is at least possible.

And Fanuzzi over Mallett - if you ran the spread(run not pass) or some other offense that needed the QB to run or at least be able to I guess I could see that, as Mallett looks like Navarre in that regard. However, Mallett looks WAY better in general at this point. I think that Fanuzzi played poorly for him at the AA game, but to put him over Mallett = one hell of a reach.

I think that Fanuzzi could make a case for being a low 4 star/or at least a high 3 pretty easy though(Miami, AA game, etc.), and certainly could be a very solid QB at the next level.

I know it is probably hard to say who you are getting stuff from, but I think we'd all like to know that.

Cissiko is supposed to be a UM lean. Damn.

He's short though. That's his downside.

In the past 6 recruiting classes, there's actually only been one guy officially listed as shorter than Cissiko and that's Brandon Harrison.

That will be a problem if he stays at CB and people go after him high, especially in the redzone. However, if he ends up at Michigan I hope he has the type of attitude that Ernie Sims had - people don't ask how tall he is after he hits them.

Also, since he is only halfway through his junior year there is still the outside chance he could add an inch or two. If he ended up at 5'11", it would still be small compared to a lot of the DB's these days, but it wouldn't be such a huge difference.

Personally my feeling is that if he is such a stud player, like RoJo, I wouldn't mind seeing him all over the field. See some time at WR, TB, KR, PR, CB, etc. He looks like he would be a good guy to blitz with on D or send long from midfield on O. End around possibly.

If Michigan can get a number of these uber-athletes and someone injects some creativity into Lloyd Carr's head we could see some incredibly exciting plays.

However, I fully understand that the creativity thing is about as likely as the earth crashing into the sun next week, so I'll just go back to wanting him as a short CB.

Do you know or think RoJo to UM - just wondering.

That sounds about right for Cissoko.

On Fanuzzi, he did visit, and that is straight up fact. Whether he is leaning MSU/Miami/Our Lady of the Saints, I'm not sure. However Scout, Rivals, and Texas people have all said this, which leads me to believe that it is at least possible.

And Fanuzzi over Mallett - if you ran the spread(run not pass) or some other offense that needed the QB to run or at least be able to I guess I could see that, as Mallett looks like Navarre in that regard. However, Mallett looks WAY better in general at this point. I think that Fanuzzi played poorly for him at the AA game, but to put him over Mallett = one hell of a reach.

I think that Fanuzzi could make a case for being a low 4 star/or at least a high 3 pretty easy though(Miami, AA game, etc.), and certainly could be a very solid QB at the next level.

I know it is probably hard to say who you are getting stuff from, but I think we'd all like to know that.

First,I cannot say where I got my info..I hope my posting about Barksdale a month ago shows im not a jackass...

Second,Mallett is not a statue like Navarre was..Mallett is no 4.5 guy but can roll out of the pocket.He showed that in the East/West game...

Last, Like I said about Fanuzzi,My guy said there was no truth to the rumor..But others have more insite with the MSU program than my guy..

Just some other info I have heard..RoJo has stated that he will take all his visits just to expieriment everything..With that said,he will end up at Michigan and starting next year.

Yes! If tommyz says it, bank on it!

Cissoko was just named the Army All-American Bowl combine MVP.

He also had this to say-


Cissoko told TheWolverine.com in September, "I'm going to wait until after the season, and then I'm going to have something. I'm going to commit early." He later said he'd plan to take some time (and possibly a few visits) before announcing, though he made it clear in a later Rivals.com article who was No. 1 on his list.

"Growing up it was Michigan that inspired me a little bit," he said. "They are my early favorite, but everyone is still in the hunt. There are teams like Ohio State, Penn State, Tennessee, they are all still in it."

Sounds good.

Yes! If tommyz says it, bank on it!

No,No,No,No,No..............[smilie=greenapple.: [smilie=happy.gif] [smilie=lipsrsealed:

I know jack shit about recruits, but we better not handcuff Mallett with our playcalling like with do with Henne right now. That's an argument for a different thread, but we totally underutilize Henne and our WR's (shocker, I know).

Mallett will have a ton of talent at WR too. With Hemingway, Clemons and Webb in this recruiting class he has the weapons. Babb is listed as a 4 star WR on scout.com, but I've heard more about him as a DB. If RoJo commits he could play both ways potentially.

He'll have Minor and Brown out of the backfield for at least one year (all this is assuming he redshirts next season)

Hey Tre........

Remember when we were talking about Big Barksdale and I told you that he wasn't even the best player on his team.............

Boubacar Cissoko, from Detroit Cass Tech, was named MVP of the Army Allstar Junior Combine and will likely be rated in the Top 10 when rankings come out for the newest batch of High School Juniors.

Props! Didn't know about him. I can admit when I'm wrong. Super good call

Mallett will have a ton of talent at WR too. With Hemingway, Clemons and Webb in this recruiting class he has the weapons. Babb is listed as a 4 star WR on scout.com, but I've heard more about him as a DB. If RoJo commits he could play both ways potentially.

He'll have Minor and Brown out of the backfield for at least one year (all this is assuming he redshirts next season)

Babb was academically ineligible at his HS, I believe. Wouldn't count on him right now. Might be a prep kid.


And MSU wise - Petrino to Louisville could help us. 6'8" WR(and BBaller) Josh Chichester is from Harmony Prep in Cinci, where we have huge connections, our BBall program could also be a draw. Also Matt Simms(yes that Simms) could decommit, and had a Cinci offer, some of the main teams he was considering the first time around, BC and ASU - coaching changes. Played in the AA game and didn't do bad IMO. A longshot I'd say though, at least at this point.

10+ visitors coming in this week could be VERY exciting.

New from Cissoko...


Since his appearance at the NIKE Camp, college teams have been bidding for the 5-9, 170-pound Cissoko's attention. He already holds offers from the likes of Michigan, Penn State and Tennessee, but early signs bode well for the Wolverines. Since the beginning of the fall, Cissoko had wanted to make an early decision and now that decision may come as soon as next month.

"I think he's considering doing that and I think he might be leaning towards Michigan," confirmed Fobbs. "He likes them, it's a good program and I think it's a good fit for him too. I told him I felt he was one of those kids who definitely fit into the 'Michigan Man' style and philosophy."

I guess there was 500 kids at the combine, and Cissoko was named the MVP over all of them.

Another write-up on BC

Boubacar Cissoko, Cass Tech High in Detroit, Mich., was a unanimous choice as the overall MVP of the combine. The talented cornerback was so tough in press coverage that the coaches asked him to back off so the receivers would have a chance to make a play. Cissoko looked like he was physically capable of playing this year's All-American Bowl.

Anyone have a list of previous junior combine MVPs? I'm interested in seeing what those junior MVPs went on to do their senior year, in college, and beyond.

Partial answer to my own question. I believe Caleb King was the overall MVP of last year's junior combine. As a senior he is the #3 RB in his class, a 5 star Georgia commit (according to scout.com)

In 2004 the junior MVP was Marcus Shavers, DE. He went on to be a 4 star DT recruit and played at Arkansas. As a true sophomore, he played a limited role on this year's Razorback squad. Played in 5 games, started none. Had 1 tackle, which was for a 1 yard loss, and had 1 QB hurry. Played in 7 games as a true freshman.

In 2003 the junior MVP was Terrail Lambert, who went on to be a 4 star CB recruit and singed with Notre Dame. Lambert is a backup CB - probable starter next season with both starting CB's leaving. Big games this season included 2 INT's against State, one of them being returned for a TD. He also logged 10 tackles against Purdue with 3 passes defended, 1 FF and 1 recovery in that game.

I still can't find the 2005 MVP. It might have been Myron Rolle, but I can't confirm that anywhere.

Simms is officially 'back to square one' recruiting. Louisville's writers think he'll recommit after meeting with Kragthorpe. We'll see.

Babb was academically ineligible at his HS, I believe. Wouldn't count on him right now. Might be a prep kid.
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Babb made all the requirements and is fine as far as academics go....Here is a little tid bit about what he might be when he gets here..


Rangel said Babb is going into Michigan right now as a wide receiver, but is open to playing either defensive back and wide receiver. He currently stands 6-1 and 189 pounds according to his uncle and looks forward to getting even bigger when he gets to Ann Arbor.

As far as MSU goes,this is a huge week for them...Hopefully they can pull some kids..If not,I consider it a huge loss of a weekend

Babb made all the requirements and is fine as far as academics go....Here is a little tid bit about what he might be when he gets here..



As far as MSU goes,this is a huge week for them...Hopefully they can pull some kids..If not,I consider it a huge loss of a weekend

They are getting some kids pretty much no matter what this weekend. But getting some of the 'right' kids is HUGE this weekend.

Not sure where it was, but one article had one of UM's Cali guy's(pretty sure it was Babb) as ineligible in HS. Apparently he had enough to still qualify overall, but it raised questions to me. Jimmy Pressley went to my HS and was ineligible for 2 seperate sports seasons, and was able to qualify though, so it probably isn't that hard to do. He did flunk out of UM in a year though.

I believe Babb was ineligible at the end of the season - based on his school's requirements that could mean just about anything. Perhaps in that particular marking period he wasn't doing well. I can only speculate.

However, being ineligible for your high school team for a while can be overcome quite easily. It's even possible that he's got some intelligence level but not much classroom work ethic, who knows. I was aware of the ineligibility at the time, but I'm glad it's cleared up.

I believe Babb was ineligible at the end of the season - based on his school's requirements that could mean just about anything. Perhaps in that particular marking period he wasn't doing well. I can only speculate.

However, being ineligible for your high school team for a while can be overcome quite easily. It's even possible that he's got some intelligence level but not much classroom work ethic, who knows. I was aware of the ineligibility at the time, but I'm glad it's cleared up.

I'm sure he has the 'intelligence level' to stay eligible, but not the work ethic. Nowadays every school has their joke courses for the athletes, to keep them eligible. Remember Harrick's class at Georgia? Nothing came of it, even though players were staying eligible by answering "how many Quarters are in a basketball game? A. 1/2 B. 17 C. 4 D. Orange (BTW the answer is C)", while the answers there are my own, that was a REAL question from Harrick's final.

I was happy with the small splash that Dantonio made right away with recruiting. Not that he amazed and brought in tons of studs or anything like that, but he had the top kids in the state adding MSU to their list after only one talk with MD.

But now, he's got to bring in a quarterback. There are lots of them that are up in the air and plenty that are mentioning MSU. Most of these kids are highly touted qb's in the rankings. He's got to close the deal on one and then really hit up the studs in next years class.

I'll be interested to see what he can do with some of these guys with a whole year to recruit them, not 2 wks.

I was happy with the small splash that Dantonio made right away with recruiting. Not that he amazed and brought in tons of studs or anything like that, but he had the top kids in the state adding MSU to their list after only one talk with MD.

But now, he's got to bring in a quarterback. There are lots of them that are up in the air and plenty that are mentioning MSU. Most of these kids are highly touted qb's in the rankings. He's got to close the deal on one and then really hit up the studs in next years class.

I'll be interested to see what he can do with some of these guys with a whole year to recruit them, not 2 wks.

QB is a big deal.

Fanuzzi and Simms - Plan A kids who look real good.
Bates and Johnson - Solid kids, but not going to set the world on fire.
Cousins - a #2 Qb in our class, who has potential, but needs work.

One of the hottest quarterback targets in the nation is Mike Johnson of Durham (N.C.) Hillside. It looks like the 6-foot-1, 208-pounder is close to heading to East Lansing for an official visit. "I actually talked with Coach (Ted) Gill tonight," Johnson said earlier this week. "He is supposed to get back with me with the information about taking a visit to Michigan State. He is going to text me or talk with my coach about the details about my visit there. He mentioned that they want to take two quarterbacks this year. That doesn't bother me. I know I am going to have to compete no matter where I go."

Matt Simms(Phil's son, Chris's Bro) is coming in this weekend.

We are one of the 2 favorites listed.

And Johnson looks like he's a great backup option for MSU(vs. Simms and Fanuzzi) or a GREAT #2 QB signing.

And Fanuzzi's dad has quotes saying they LOVED the MSU visit, also says the Nichol 'We're still committed to Miami, but we're gathering information' line.

This weekend will be huge beyond huge for MSU.

The fact that we could get Sims or Fanuzzi has me so excited. I'll take one and I don't care which one. I'd probably like the gene pool of Sims slightly more. However, Fanuzzi looks good. I'd definately take him and be thrilled.

Lots of good kids coming in for a looksee. A Rivals insider is projecting six of them will eventually wear the Green & White. Dantonio is really pulling out the stops in Florida. Some nice kids flying under the radar. I am confident that Dantonio will sort them out. How long before spring ball? Chomp!!

I'm not sure if you guys saw it or not, but rivals has their top analysts projecting where all of the uncommitted stud recruits are going to commit and all 4 have RoJo donning the Maize and Blue.

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http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=628615

I'm not sure if you guys saw it or not, but rivals has their top analysts projecting where all of the uncommitted stud recruits are going to commit and all 4 have RoJo donning the Maize and Blue.

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http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=628615

He's going to MSU. Well at least I can hope, but it is supposed to be UM.

What happens with Noel Devine is what I think'll be interesting, looks like Prep, but what if he goes somewhere, or where will he go out of prep. He is flat out insanely talented, but also completely nuts.

I'm not sure if you guys saw it or not, but rivals has their top analysts projecting where all of the uncommitted stud recruits are going to commit and all 4 have RoJo donning the Maize and Blue.

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http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=628615

Hopefully for Rojo he doesn't make a mistake like that. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with my dislike for Michigan. If I'm a Top 10 player in the nation right now, I'm not going to Michigan. I would want to play at a school that has one of those big game coaches. In his case, I'm going to USC or Florida if distance isn't an issue. Why?

If I go to Florida or USC, I am going to play in major Championship games and when I get in those games, I have a coach who is notorious for finishing the job. I want that as a top recruit. Michigan is one of those top notch schools, but Carr's inability to win the big games/bowl games and his vanilla stubborn ways would turn me completely off.

Just looked up MSU's schedule next year. I don't know that we should even really care about recruiting. Sorry for the pessimistic attitude but, @Wisc., @Iowa, @Ohio State, @ND, @Purdue

Did I just reel off 5 losses that easy. ugh

They decided it would be good to add @Cal for our first game of the 2008 season. What FUCKING moron made that decision?

Forever shit.

The Cal game is a return trip for the game in either '01 or '02, when they were bad.

Hopefully for Rojo he doesn't make a mistake like that. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with my dislike for Michigan. If I'm a Top 10 player in the nation right now, I'm not going to Michigan. I would want to play at a school that has one of those big game coaches. In his case, I'm going to USC or Florida if distance isn't an issue. Why?

If I go to Florida or USC, I am going to play in major Championship games and when I get in those games, I have a coach who is notorious for finishing the job. I want that as a top recruit. Michigan is one of those top notch schools, but Carr's inability to win the big games/bowl games and his vanilla stubborn ways would turn me completely off.


RoJo is supposed to be a Charles Woodson type player (CB/WR) and I think things worked out pretty good for him at U-M. Check out Muhme's sig if you forgot.

He's going to MSU. Well at least I can hope, but it is supposed to be UM.

What happens with Noel Devine is what I think'll be interesting, looks like Prep, but what if he goes somewhere, or where will he go out of prep. He is flat out insanely talented, but also completely nuts.

Lived in Naples for a spell. I have a friend involved with H.S FB there and he says Devine doesn't have the brains God gave a goat. Should be a lock for West Virginia.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with my dislike for state, but if I am a top quarterback, there is no way I consider state. Of their last two quarterbacks, one was a collasal disappointment and the other was a cokehead. I won't even get into the joke that is charles rogers. The ability of MSU to ruin top talent is becoming legendary. If I am a top quarterback, I am going to stay away from a school that celebrates victories over Northwestern. That is just embarassing and not something I would want to be a part of.

If I am a top player, I want to go to a school that can attain the incredibly mediocre standards of reaching a bowl and playing on tv once in a while (besides Notre Dame). If I want any exposure at all I go to a school besides MSU.



The fact that we could get Sims or Fanuzzi has me so excited. I'll take one and I don't care which one. I'd probably like the gene pool of Sims slightly more. However, Fanuzzi looks good. I'd definately take him and be thrilled.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with my dislike for state, but if I am a top quarterback, there is no way I consider state. Of their last two quarterbacks, one was a collasal disappointment and the other was a cokehead. I won't even get into the joke that is charles rogers. The ability of MSU to ruin top talent is becoming legendary. If I am a top quarterback, I am going to stay away from a school that celebrates victories over Northwestern. That is just embarassing and not something I would want to be a part of.

If I am a top player, I want to go to a school that can attain the incredibly mediocre standards of reaching a bowl and playing on tv once in a while (besides Notre Dame). If I want any exposure at all I go to a school besides MSU.

You are retarded. Smoker - was a druggie, until then he was a 1st rounder. And Stanton - will be a 1st day pick, better than he should have been from HS.

And there is a new coaching staff.

And the only people celebrating the win over NW were JLS's staff.

And MSU is on TV everywhere 4 times every year(ND, UM, OSU, PSU) which is way more than most 'mediocre' teams.

So, pretty much you are just a hater.

How about 'Why would I go to UM if I'm a RB - none of their RB's have done shit in the NFL.' Or as a QB - I'll get drafted late. Or as a WR - Bust.

You are dumb.

Lived in Naples for a spell. I have a friend involved with H.S FB there and he says Devine doesn't have the brains God gave a goat. Should be a lock for West Virginia.

About what I've heard.

He's gonna be amazing in that spread O though. 200 yard games will be off days for him.

Smoker was a 6th rounder...not a 1st.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6960

RoJo is supposed to be a Charles Woodson type player (CB/WR) and I think things worked out pretty good for him at U-M. Check out Muhme's sig if you forgot.

Actually it is getting pretty hard to remember that. Seems like the last 5 years have been painted Red and Yellow by Pete on the west coast. If I'm going to pick an Elite program, I'm picking the one that is offering warm weather and a coach that has been coming up big. No offense to Michigan, but USC and Florida are currently the cream of the crop.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with my dislike for state, but if I am a top quarterback, there is no way I consider state. Of their last two quarterbacks, one was a collasal disappointment and the other was a cokehead. I won't even get into the joke that is charles rogers. The ability of MSU to ruin top talent is becoming legendary. If I am a top quarterback, I am going to stay away from a school that celebrates victories over Northwestern. That is just embarassing and not something I would want to be a part of.

If I am a top player, I want to go to a school that can attain the incredibly mediocre standards of reaching a bowl and playing on tv once in a while (besides Notre Dame). If I want any exposure at all I go to a school besides MSU.

You basically ignored my good points about RoJo and took offense to it. Sorry if the truth hurts, but I gave UM props for being a great program in my post. Unfortunately they are not where USC and UF are.

And because of the offense you took, you posted this garbage trash talk. I agree with you though. If I were an All American qb, I would not go to State either. Catch you off guard with the response? I can be unbiased. I wouldn't go to State if I was a top player. With that being said, your last post makes you look like a bitter pissed off moron fan.

Smoker was a 6th rounder...not a 1st.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6960

He would have been a first if he wasn't an addict. Read my post. 'He was projected as a 1st rounder till he was a rehab kid.

MSU gets Michael Jordan, 6'6" 280 pound DE/DT who runs a 4.8. 4 star in Rivals, offered by Nebraska and MTSU.

Actually my post was just a joke to get the expected reaction out of you.

MSU is historically a great team with great fans and solid academics, but I think top in-state players should choose central and western before state until state proves they can make it to a bowl game. Does that fit your back-handed complement expectation?

Your post just comes across as jealousy because michigan might get a good player. I really don't care much about msu. If msu wins (besides michigan), good for them. If they get a good recruit, good for them. If I posted something negative in response to every piece of good news for state, that would just be dumb hating (i.e. your style). You should just start all of your posts with "because I hate michigan, i hope they are terrible, here is why." At least then, you would be honest. I just think it is funny that you don't realize how silly your posts about michigan are.

Michigan might not win all the games, but players get plenty of exposure and um sends plenty of players to the pros (even if Lloyd is a rather poor head coach and they flopped badly against USC). See, I can admit flaws about michigan too. (are you as shocked as I was supposed to be?) THis might also come as a shock to you, but a lot of kids like to play close to home or want to play for teams they have always cheered for. Florida got a lot of homegrown talent over the last couple of years despite being pretty mediocre. Did those players make bad decisions? Maybe Michigan won't be better than FLorida or USC next year, but recruits can get a great education (if they want to), a great college experience (100,000+ every game), and solid coaching. I somehow doubt it would be as disasterous as you believe.



You basically ignored my good points about RoJo and took offense to it. Sorry if the truth hurts, but I gave UM props for being a great program in my post. Unfortunately they are not where USC and UF are.

And because of the offense you took, you posted this garbage trash talk. I agree with you though. If I were an All American qb, I would not go to State either. Catch you off guard with the response? I can be unbiased. I wouldn't go to State if I was a top player. With that being said, your last post makes you look like a bitter pissed off moron fan.

MSU gets Michael Jordan, 6'6" 280 pound DE/DT who runs a 4.8. 4 star in Rivals, offered by Nebraska and MTSU.


Good for state, I think dantonio will do a good job coaching up the defense.

Sorry I flipped at you if you're joking, but shit like that = bullshit, and it bugs me, because people do think that stuff.

Jordan is a big commit, a JuCo though, 3 to play 3 academically.

Matt Simms - staying on campus another day, I'm assuming out of his(dad's) own dime, because officials can only last 48 hours. I'd say that has to be big news.

Xanadu, you're such a tool. You post 2 paragraphs worth of garbage trash talk and when you end up looking like an idiot, you claim, "I was just joking." LOL! Yeah, I'm the one looking stupid.

Get over yourself and your team. I love the "you're just jealous" argument thrown in every other day. Yeah, cuz everybody in the world is dying to represent the Maize and Blue after 3 straight nose dives and the Amaker Show.

If you can't handle somebody suggesting that Michigan isn't the right place for a recruit, then your fan loyalty is a little unhealthy. Not everything posted here is some twisted opinion based on whether that individual is a Wolverine or Spartan fan. Are you able to discuss without claiming EVERY SINGLE OPINION is somehow tainted by the fact that I support a different school?

I suggested that the Defending National Champions or 2007's Preseason #1 Team might be a better fit for RoJo. Am I really stretching it that much? SIGH....

UM loses 2 recruits.

4 star S(or possibly LB) Jeremy Finch is now a IU commit.

and

3 star RB(DB?) Marquise Maze, with the Barry Sanders moves decommitted. Now looking at SEC schools mostly I believe.

And apparently there is some rumor that Barringer and Mundy won't return. Anyone know what's up with that?

Sucks for UM.

Jordan is a big commit, a JuCo though, 3 to play 3 academically.

Matt Simms - staying on campus another day, I'm assuming out of his(dad's) own dime, because officials can only last 48 hours. I'd say that has to be big news.

I'm really excited about the MJ commitment. Not a bad name either. Two 4 star defensive players is definately a step in the right direction. It really will be nice to see a good defense on the field. I like that.

I agree with the Sims assessment also. Him staying on campus another day is a good sign. If they get him, our recruiting picture starts looking very solid. Just wish that schedule wasn't lingering in the back of my mind.-YUCK

UM loses 2 recruits.

4 star S(or possibly LB) Jeremy Finch is now a IU commit.

and

3 star RB(DB?) Marquise Maze, with the Barry Sanders moves decommitted. Now looking at SEC schools mostly I believe.

And apparently there is some rumor that Barringer and Mundy won't return. Anyone know what's up with that?

Sucks for UM.

Interesting. I feel it. haha No, seriously though, I looked at Michigan's recruiting class and it is still very very good. I'd love to have it. But, you'd think with running in the #2 spot nearly all season long, they'd have a Top 3-5 class coming in.

Tre, why do Purdue and Notre Dame scare you next year? Notre Dame should be terrible or average at best with all their losses on O and D.

Tony Fein is supposed to choose a school tommorrow, after meeting with MSU's coaches. And MSU is the only one of his 3 favorites named, or visited.

4 star LB, offered by Nebraska, Cal, and many others. 24 year old Iraq vet, runs a 4.6.

MSU should start rolling here soon.

Tre, why do Purdue and Notre Dame scare you next year? Notre Dame should be terrible or average at best with all their losses on O and D.

Purdue I could see, they were better than us this year, and are returning a lot.

ND we should beat IMO. We almost beat them with a retard coaching, now, with ND losing nearly everyone, we should beat them.

Actually, yes your opinions are retarded. It sounds like you think that all top 10 recruits should go to the 1 or 2 schools that finish the season with the best football outlook/rank regardless of any other consideration (distance from home, academics, overall like/dislike of campus). News flash for dimwits: other considerations besides final rankings are important to recruits. Plus, some recruits likely want to make their own history at the schools they play for. Florida wouldn't have won the title if their recruits made decisions based on your dumbass criteria. Luckily for Florida, their recruits made decisions based on what was best for them and not the final polls.

However I suppose the same 1 or 2 schools should get all the top recruits every year regardless of location and the number of players already at their position. Michigan's D coordinator was an NFL secondary coach and um also has an obvious need in the secondary. I guess those facts are trivial to recruits, huh? Anyways, my post was a joke, because I felt like posting something as stupid as you to see if I could reduce my intelligence that low. Just because state has had a few bad years does not mean they can't turn the program around so that their qbs won't run into the same problems that smoker and stanton did.

Your whole post was a backhanded way of saying michigan will never be great and doesn't deserve top recruits. If you had any relevant info about why rojo shouldn't go to michigan (i.e. logjam at position, no history of developing cbs, etc.), I might agree. Your post was nothing, but recylced garbage you always post about michigan. Whatever... I went to michigan and I can guarantee any player would get a good education and enjoy the complete college experience if they stayed 4 years. So guess what, I'm going to call your garbage as it is (at least until I get bored, which will probably be pretty quick).

So fine, you're not jealous, you're just stupid.


Xanadu, you're such a tool. You post 2 paragraphs worth of garbage trash talk and when you end up looking like an idiot, you claim, "I was just joking." LOL! Yeah, I'm the one looking stupid.

Get over yourself and your team. I love the "you're just jealous" argument thrown in every other day. Yeah, cuz everybody in the world is dying to represent the Maize and Blue after 3 straight nose dives and the Amaker Show.

If you can't handle somebody suggesting that Michigan isn't the right place for a recruit, then your fan loyalty is a little unhealthy. Not everything posted here is some twisted opinion based on whether that individual is a Wolverine or Spartan fan. Are you able to discuss without claiming EVERY SINGLE OPINION is somehow tainted by the fact that I support a different school?

I suggested that the Defending National Champions or 2007's Preseason #1 Team might be a better fit for RoJo. Am I really stretching it that much? SIGH....

Michigan Losing Recruits:
You've got a dolt for a head coash, and you lose every big game on national TV, and then you ask a kid to come play in the worst weather on the planet.
The day UM shows some balls and gets a head coach worthy of all that bluster about tradition and most victories and all that shit, THEN watch the program fly.
Until then, glorified mediocrity.
Anybody as scared as I am that Lloyd might just actually pull off getting DeBord the job when he hangs it up?

YEAH!

Arthur Ray 3 star OG, who played in the O/D AA game and has amazing film is an MSU commit. Offered by BC(originally committed there), CSU, Illinois, Indiana, ISU, Kentucky, and NCSt.

The guys who came in got to see The Brez in "full bloom" on top of everything else. The Jordan and Ray commit's are huge. I'm hoping this Fein kid, who is an Iraqi War vet connected with MD. Seems very mature as one would think but I'm afraid of west coast roots and a Cal commit.

I find it interesting that Fitch headed to Bloomington to accompany his home slice who is a 3-star DT and after given a sniff from U-M they passed on him. Hoeppner and his buddy must have got his ear. Good for him. A courageous decision to try to be a differnce maker at IU. With Hoeppner and Zook bringing in studs this only bodes well for the overall strength of the Big 10. Nice for a change.

If Michigan hired debord as head coach, the school would deserve everything state fans say about it. Didn't Debord compile a .300 winning % at central. I would think if anyone is promoted it would have to be English. I think he would bring a lot of fire, but I'd be happy if coordinators called the plays for both units.

I feel like all schools have decommits, so that it isn't too big a deal to me, although michigan can use all the secondary help they can get, especially next year. Also, I feel like the weather balances out with southern schools. the heat and humidity in the south are as oppresive as the cold in michigan. California is a different story weatherwise and I can see why it is so easy for USC to recruit (though i'd never personally want to live in LA).



Michigan Losing Recruits:
You've got a dolt for a head coash, and you lose every big game on national TV, and then you ask a kid to come play in the worst weather on the planet.
The day UM shows some balls and gets a head coach worthy of all that bluster about tradition and most victories and all that shit, THEN watch the program fly.
Until then, glorified mediocrity.
Anybody as scared as I am that Lloyd might just actually pull off getting DeBord the job when he hangs it up?

The guys who came in got to see The Brez in "full bloom" on top of everything else. The Jordan and Ray commit's are huge. I'm hoping this Fein kid, who is an Iraqi War vet connected with MD. Seems very mature as one would think but I'm afraid of west coast roots and a Cal commit.

I find it interesting that Fitch headed to Bloomington to accompany his home slice who is a 3-star DT and after given a sniff from U-M they passed on him. Hoeppner and his buddy must have got his ear. Good for him. A courageous decision to try to be a differnce maker at IU. With Hoeppner and Zook bringing in studs this only bodes well for the overall strength of the Big 10. Nice for a change.

Cal = stoner central, you need to be a pro to hang up there. And they are all hippies, so his Army roots would probably reject that BAD, but that's just the feel I've gotten from Cal, and the Army.

Cal = stoner central, you need to be a pro to hang up there. And they are all hippies, so his Army roots would probably reject that BAD, but that's just the feel I've gotten from Cal, and the Army.

Uh, I knew of 1 or 2 guys in the Army that got "baked" from time to time. Berkely is a great place with a lot going on. Cal is a tremendous school too. The FB program is not exactly slogging along either. Big decision for Fein.

You kidding me? Hipster, you KNOW Berkeley is all of that and a bag of Dill Pickle Lays, man.
It's a no brainer for me: Ann Arbor or Berkeley, just norf of San Francisco?
I honestly don't know why a kid would even stop to think about that one.

detroit sports:
You some kind of moron? They're "all hippies"? Been listening to Rush Limbaugh lately?
Berkeley is THEE BOMB. And a kid fresh out of the Iraq War SHOULD want to shed those "Army Roots", sit back, and have some friggin' fun.

detroit sports:
You some kind of moron? They're "all hippies"? Been listening to Rush Limbaugh lately?
Berkeley is THEE BOMB. And a kid fresh out of the Iraq War SHOULD want to shed those "Army Roots", sit back, and have some friggin' fun.

Zip - Cal is all Save Darfur and smoking weed. Not that those are bad things, but pretty much the opposite of the army stuff. And the guy seems to have liked his Army time, rather than trying to get away.

If I'm choosing a school - Cal's mellow life = not bad; from the perspective of a kid who went through the Army, fuck Cal.


And yes I do know that more than a few Army guys get baked pretty often, however, the overall attitude of the army is pretty conservative and all that. So generally MSU would make more sense than Cal.

Uh, I knew of 1 or 2 guys in the Army that got "baked" from time to time. Berkely is a great place with a lot going on. Cal is a tremendous school too. The FB program is not exactly slogging along either. Big decision for Fein.

He never had an official to Cal.

And yes Army people get baked, the Army is still generall conservative.

Cal is a better school and a better FB team, MSU has a MUCH better area(not a Berkely fan, looks shabby), and seems to have a better 'fit'. Also he probably has a better shot at playing here.

Yes, East Lansing is a MUCH better area. 40 below zero from November to May, cloudy and rainy 325 days a year, and so much lovely scenery to enjoy.
Cal, on the other hand, man, the ocean, sunny all the time, babes out the wazoo, driving Highway 1 up and down the California coast. Man, that sucks.
If the kid goes to MSU, I'm all for it. But hey, think outside the box, man. Conservative Army shit is great if you're sitting in the desert waiting for some car bomber to drive by. Many of our soldiers aren't there because they are conservative, either. More than a few are there for a job they never thought would actually happen-war- and after they survive, shaving every day and polishing your boots every day seems kind of boring.
I don't want to take this into a philosophicl discussion of lifestyles and stuff, but do kids really EVER go beyond "Where I'll play" and "Can I get laid" and "How is the party life"?

Yes, East Lansing is a MUCH better area. 40 below zero from November to May, cloudy and rainy 325 days a year, and so much lovely scenery to enjoy.
Cal, on the other hand, man, the ocean, sunny all the time, babes out the wazoo, driving Highway 1 up and down the California coast. Man, that sucks.
If the kid goes to MSU, I'm all for it. But hey, think outside the box, man. Conservative Army shit is great if you're sitting in the desert waiting for some car bomber to drive by. Many of our soldiers aren't there because they are conservative, either. More than a few are there for a job they never thought would actually happen-war- and after they survive, shaving every day and polishing your boots every day seems kind of boring.
I don't want to take this into a philosophicl discussion of lifestyles and stuff, but do kids really EVER go beyond "Where I'll play" and "Can I get laid" and "How is the party life"?

You've never been to Berkley have you?

Cal has average chicks at best. It is about 4 miles from the coast, and a half hour from any competent beach. It is north more, so it's not 70 every day, it is 60(not that I'd be complaining), and it is in San Fran, and not it the best of areas.

MSU's chicks > Cal's chicks.

Not that he couldn't find somebody in the Oakland/San Fran area, but EL > Berkley.

MSU's Chicks > Cal's Chicks
You are right. Michigan chicks are fatter than California chicks.
Been to Berkely, lived across the bay from San Fran.
Anyone who doesn't think that is a nice place must still be thinking that George Bush is a helluva president.

4 star and #30 overall prospect Jerimy Finch has decommitted from Michigan and has committed to get this........Indiana. [smilie=wtfgun.gif]

"I'm excited," Finch, a former commitment to Michigan from Indianapolis Warren Central, said. "This is the beginning of a lot of good things for Indiana."

From Rivals-
Finch said one of the biggest – if not the biggest reason – why he's heading to Indiana was because of the friendships he's built with three of his teammates, who are also heading to play for the Hoosiers. Early in the recruiting process, Indiana picked up commitments from Chris Adkins and Andrew McDonald. Then teammate Jeff Boyd, a defensive lineman, committed to Indiana this weekend also.

Finch said it just felt right for him to join them in Bloomington.

"It was a big deal in my decision," he said. "I think the four of us can make a big impact. We all wanted to stick together since we'd been together forever in high school. We're going to keep the team together, go down there to Indiana and make big things happen."

I can't wait to see Mario Manningham roasting this crimson clown in front of 20,000 people in Bloomington.

Also, it sounds like Marquis Maze will decommit and is looking at Miami, Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, West Virginia and Virginia Tech.

Interesting situation-
After months of no contact with the Michigan coaching staff, Maze categorized his chances of ending up at Michigan as "very slim."

"I don't really know what's going on," said Maze. "Around October, Coach Jackson left a message on my mom's phone because I took a visit to Tennessee. I really didn't agree with what he was saying on the message."

I viewed this recruiting class as disappointing BEFORE all of this, now we REEEEEALLY need RoJo.

What we REAALLLY need is a new, energetic, intelligent, hard working COACHing staff.

What we REAALLLY need is a new, energetic, intelligent, hard working COACHing staff.

Yeah, that would REEEEEALLY help too. [smilie=banghead.gi:

Michael Jordan - offered today by Miami and Florida.

But he's staying a Spartan, and won't visit them.

And Tony Fein is all but committed.

The excitement is building in East Lansing. No more having to comeback from 35 down to beat Northwestern!
I can almost SMELL a Sparty upset of UM in 2014.

Hey guys, I know most consider this a forgone conclusion but my person told me that RoJo is in fact a Wolverine...Just letting you know what I was told..

Actually, yes your opinions are retarded. It sounds like you think that all top 10 recruits should go to the 1 or 2 schools that finish the season with the best football outlook/rank regardless of any other consideration (distance from home, academics, overall like/dislike of campus). News flash for dimwits: other considerations besides final rankings are important to recruits. Plus, some recruits likely want to make their own history at the schools they play for. Florida wouldn't have won the title if their recruits made decisions based on your dumbass criteria. Luckily for Florida, their recruits made decisions based on what was best for them and not the final polls.

However I suppose the same 1 or 2 schools should get all the top recruits every year regardless of location and the number of players already at their position. Michigan's D coordinator was an NFL secondary coach and um also has an obvious need in the secondary. I guess those facts are trivial to recruits, huh? Anyways, my post was a joke, because I felt like posting something as stupid as you to see if I could reduce my intelligence that low. Just because state has had a few bad years does not mean they can't turn the program around so that their qbs won't run into the same problems that smoker and stanton did.

Your whole post was a backhanded way of saying michigan will never be great and doesn't deserve top recruits. If you had any relevant info about why rojo shouldn't go to michigan (i.e. logjam at position, no history of developing cbs, etc.), I might agree. Your post was nothing, but recylced garbage you always post about michigan. Whatever... I went to michigan and I can guarantee any player would get a good education and enjoy the complete college experience if they stayed 4 years. So guess what, I'm going to call your garbage as it is (at least until I get bored, which will probably be pretty quick).

So fine, you're not jealous, you're just stupid.

I'm stupid and retarded, yet you still can't figure out that a quote goes at the beginning of a post. No, I'm not saying all recruits should go to the #1 and #2 school. I'm saying that if I was RoJo, I'd want a coaching staff that has proven itself recently in big games. That's all. If that upsets you that much-sorry

Michael Jordan - offered today by Miami and Florida.

But he's staying a Spartan, and won't visit them.

And Tony Fein is all but committed.

I'm even more excited after seeing Miami and Florida offer. If he can play for those defenses, I'll welcome him with open arms to the Spartan D.

I'm even more excited after seeing Miami and Florida offer. If he can play for those defenses, I'll welcome him with open arms to the Spartan D.

Agreed, that's some bigtime quality offers.

Hey guys, I know most consider this a forgone conclusion but my person told me that RoJo is in fact a Wolverine...Just letting you know what I was told..

Probably true, but lame and unexciting.

Hey guys, I know most consider this a forgone conclusion but my person told me that RoJo is in fact a Wolverine...Just letting you know what I was told..


Probably true, but lame and unexciting.

[smilie=donthate.gi: Speak for yourself! [smilie=fingernono.:


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I think that Fein, Jordan, and Ray had a response more similar to mine to RoJo than yours, for you.

So - Congrats, I'm hoping he wants to play with Ashton and his Bro, but it does look like you're going to win this one. And by looks like, I mean all but signed.

I think that Fein, Jordan, and Ray had a response more similar to mine to RoJo than yours, for you.

So - Congrats, I'm hoping he wants to play with Ashton and his Bro, but it does look like you're going to win this one. And by looks like, I mean all but signed.

det- I was told he never considered MSU..he went there because his bro and Ashton wanted him to go...I will say again,that I believe Legett to be a steal for the Spartans.The kid is a beast..Very Under-rated and I believe will start in time over the backs that are there now..

det- I was told he never considered MSU..he went there because his bro and Ashton wanted him to go...I will say again,that I believe Legett to be a steal for the Spartans.The kid is a beast..Very Under-rated and I believe will start in time over the backs that are there now..

While I appreciate the praise and am excited about it, I don't think anybody will be starting over Ringer until Ringer is in the NFL. The kid is just sick. Hopefully he comes back strong after the injury. I am very excited about Legett though.

The final rivals100 is out.

Mallett makes a huge jump to #4, RoJo is #8 and Toney Clemons makes the list at # 91. Sweet.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1475

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Ron Lee, who coached Michigan's cornerbacks and punt-return team for the 2006-07 season, is out per the Detroit News website (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007701170381) today. No reason was given for Lee's departure.

For those of you that are concerned this will impact the Ronald Johnson recruiting in some way, Steve Stripling - Michigan's D-Line coach - is heading up that process.

Was this move done to help get Rojo? I'll defer to the U of M experts on here.

Also:


Michigan State's offensive coordinator and tight ends coach has been named the new offensive coordinator at New Mexico, Lobos coach Rocky Long announced.
Dave Baldwin replaces Bob Toledo, who became head coach at Tulane last month. Baldwin, 51, spent the past four years at Michigan State

Is he the one Mike Valenti called HR Puffenstuff? Who's gonna replace him, the Cookie Monster?

MSU gets commitments from 3 star OLB(who runs a 4.6) Greg Jones. Previously committed to Minnesota. Should be on rivals in minutes.

Also Aaron Bates a K/P(will be a punter) committed as he either didn't get an ND offer, or ND didn't make a good enough case. Will be on Rivals this weekend.

MSU gets commitments from 3 star OLB(who runs a 4.6) Greg Jones. Previously committed to Minnesota. Should be on rivals in minutes.

Also Aaron Bates a K/P(will be a punter) committed as he either didn't get an ND offer, or ND didn't make a good enough case. Will be on Rivals this weekend.

Damn it Detroit, you always beat me to the punch. haha That linebacker commitment could be a very good one if he can pack on about 30 pounds of muscle. Shouldn't be too hard given his frame. Man, a linebacker with 4.6 speed is NICE.

This class continues to go from average at best to very solid. It is becoming littered with 3 star talent w/ a few 4 stars mixed in. Looks like they are a hair away from a 4 star linebacker too. They get him and we are looking at 4 Four Star recruits (3 Defensive players). That is pretty good given the few weeks Dantonio has gotten to recruit.

Next year MD might make some serious noise on the recruiting scene. It is a must if we every want to get out of the cellar.

Is this class catching up with what St Lloyd has done (Mallett excepted)?

Damn it Detroit, you always beat me to the punch. haha That linebacker commitment could be a very good one if he can pack on about 30 pounds of muscle. Shouldn't be too hard given his frame. Man, a linebacker with 4.6 speed is NICE.

This class continues to go from average at best to very solid. It is becoming littered with 3 star talent w/ a few 4 stars mixed in. Looks like they are a hair away from a 4 star linebacker too. They get him and we are looking at 4 Four Star recruits (3 Defensive players). That is pretty good given the few weeks Dantonio has gotten to recruit.

Next year MD might make some serious noise on the recruiting scene. It is a must if we every want to get out of the cellar.

Fein looks like he's starting to look elsewhere(visiting Ole Miss and Louisville in coming weeks), rather than the near lock suggested earlier. We'll see if we'll be able to lock him down.

Up to 18 commits(once Bates is announced).

Hopefully we'll be able to get in on Everson and/or Threet if Gailey is off to Miami.

Is this class catching up with what St Lloyd has done (Mallett excepted)?

Not quite, after the decommitment of Finch, Michigan is now at #12, they should be to 10 if RoJo commits. MSU is currently at #44.

http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=1014

However, if you factor in coaching of talent, UM slips to #74.

However, if you factor in coaching of talent, UM slips to #74.

haha, totally agree.


BTW, anyone hear where Mitch Mustain is off to now that he's leaving Arkansas for sure? Man, I'd like him in EL.

The talk out in the Great Plains is OKLAHOMA.

I heard a rumor this morning that insunuated that if Mitch Mustain goes to Oklahoma (the front-runner) that Keith Nicol would seriously reconsider going there seeing as how they would be in the same class essentially. I think it would be real interesting if Mustain made a quick decision to see what would happen.

I have inside information that Mustain has seriously pulled his hymen and is keeping it a secret from Bob Stoops.

MSU gets Kirk Cousins 2 star QB with an offer from Colorado and some MAC schools. Was named in the 'next 10' by the Elite 11, so Bob Johnson loved him. http://studentsports.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=560635

Not sure how good he really is, but seems like a decent project, hope that we get another kid though.

And Bates is official now, 43.2 yard average, offered by Purdue, WVU, and MAC schools.

And Mustain, Oklahoma and Tulsa seem to be the leading candidates, Tennesee and a few others are supposed to be in on some level too.

And Nichol couldn't switch, as he's already enrolled there, he would have to transfer, rather than decommit.

DSC, did you really throw out Bates punting average? Come on now, I think that is going just a little too far..........LOL

DSC, did you really throw out Bates punting average? Come on now, I think that is going just a little too far..........LOL

Well what other stats/measurements are worth mentioning? I can talk about the size or speed of other guys, but a 5'2" punter who runs a 8 second 40 could be just fine, and a 7'4 guy who runs 3 second 40 could suck(though he should try WR).

He was All State Ohio, which would also have been a valid point I guess.

haha, totally agree.


BTW, anyone hear where Mitch Mustain is off to now that he's leaving Arkansas for sure? Man, I'd like him in EL.

BTW - RoJo is having his official at MSU this weekend, and dropped Florida.

Yes he dropped the national champs for MSU.

Hopefully this means Tommyz is wrong, but we'll see, and I'm having a hard time betting against UM still.

BTW - RoJo is having his official at MSU this weekend, and dropped Florida.

Yes he dropped the national champs for MSU.

Hopefully this means Tommyz is wrong, but we'll see, and I'm having a hard time betting against UM still.

Unfortunately for you im not.....[smilie=happy.gif]

Rojo's mom wouldnt mind seeing her sons together at MSU.

Rojo's mom wouldnt mind seeing her sons together at MSU.

I wouldn't either.

Hell I wouldn't mind a big ol' Muskegon pipeline: Leggett, RoJo, CoJo, Crawford(the QB that went crazy in the championship game), and so on. That would be real nice. At least we have Leggett.

MSU gets a commit from Kevin Pickelman, offered by everyone in the MAC and Cinci(Kelly not MD).

6'4 240 pounds, and has run a 4.68(was 6'3 212 at that point though).

So he's got good athleticism at least.

I'm wondering how we have room for him with 6 schollies now remaining though, QB, RB, 2 OL, DL, 2 LB, 2 DB is what we still need/want, but we don't have that many schollies. We're favored on Anderson, Dumphord, Merrill, and Coleman, plus maybe Martin or Davis. So there isn't much room.

Andre Anderson = SPARTAN!

5'8 RB with 4.4 speed, and he was a Minny commit(lets just say that Mason's RB's have done well).

2 star today, will be a 3 barring something surprising, EdgyTim(illinois prep guy) is REAL high on him.

DSC.........couple of questions...

1. Is Anderson that cat with the super blown out afro?

2. What is the deal with C.J. Peake? I had heard he was a Sparty lean and one site is reporting he is a solid Wisky verbal and the other site has him listed as a silent with MSU 2nd.....any idea?

DSC.........couple of questions...

1. Is Anderson that cat with the super blown out afro?

2. What is the deal with C.J. Peake? I had heard he was a Sparty lean and one site is reporting he is a solid Wisky verbal and the other site has him listed as a silent with MSU 2nd.....any idea?

1. Yes.

2. He committed to Wiscy, visited MSU, then reaffirmed his commitment to Wiscy.

Check out Boubacar Cissoko's myspace page. I like Michigan's chances.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=142901305&MyToken=c100dfb4-c580-4fd5-b426-11d4356fd30a

Also, apparently RoJo enjoyed his visit to MSU and his mom says everyone is even with no one having an advantage. She also said him leaving the state would be no problem.

Here's a section of the interview with his mom from Spartanmag-

Did Mrs. Johnson accompany Ronald on the visit to East Lansing?

"Yes I did," she said.

What were her impressions of the visit?

"It was nice."

Did Ronald have much to say about it?

"He enjoyed himself."

Did you learn anything about Michigan State during the visit that you didn't know beforehand?

"It's a good school."

You had some one-on-one time with head coach Mark Dantonio?

"Yes I did."

What were her impressions of him?

"Nice guy."

As for slightly more expansive information, Mrs. Johnson conceded that the decision-making process has become a bit more difficult than expected.

"It probably has," she said. "With all the different visits, I guess he didn't expect it to be that much to see or that much to learn. The difference in the schools is a lot.

"He is enjoying himself, but it is somewhat stressful," she said. "It's a learning experience.

"All the schools that he is looking at are great schools. And he is looking at the academics, and the coaching staff, as well as whether he fits in."

Fitting in appears to be as big a factor as any. On Dec. 27, he told TheWolverine.com: "I am going to have to wait it out and see where I fit in the best."

On Sunday night, Mrs. Johnson was asked if there is a leader.

"No," she said.

Is Michigan State still in it?

"Yes."

Does she think the visit helped Michigan State, or kept the Spartans where they were?

"Um, it kept all of the schools … basically it's up in the air right now," she said. "There is nobody ahead of anybody, and nobody behind anybody at all."

What were some of the messages that Michigan State tried to convey to the Johnsons?

"That this is a good school, and a good place to be, and you can get a good education as well as have a good time on the football field," she said.

Mood, I really hope that somebody stole your password and made this stupid post. I can't believe you have posted Cissoko's myspace (which clearly is fake). Seriously Mood..........just tell me it wasn't you who actually posted that.

I think because RoJo has been such a heavy UM lean the whole time, it would have taken an Earth shattering visit to sway him any. Sounds like Mom is just doing the typical recruiting thing and saying everyone is even.

We all know that is the furthest thing from the truth. I don't know why he doesn't just announce and get it over with if it's stressful. UM has been far and away his leader for an eternity.

Rojo may have been a Michigan lean for quite some time, but the more this drags out, the more I feel he's headed west to WIN big games under Pete Carroll.

Fein has narrowed his list to Michigan State and Ole Miss. Fein is a 4 star linebacker and would be a big addition to the Spartan recruiting class. Hopefully Dantonio can lock him up.

Mood, I really hope that somebody stole your password and made this stupid post. I can't believe you have posted Cissoko's myspace (which clearly is fake). Seriously Mood..........just tell me it wasn't you who actually posted that.

Yeah, I had my doubts too. Some cat posted it on The Wolverine, I just relayed it.

About RoJo, I get the feeling the longer the process takes, the more and more he leans to USC. [smilie=wreck.gif]

I have this feeling that he cancelled his visit to Florida because of his fear of flying. I remember hearing that it took something big for him to get on the plane and go to USC a while back. I think its a three team race between UofM, MSU and tO$U. I think as it stands right now here is the percentages of the teams left.....

UofM -- 40%

tO$U -- 40%

MSU -- 20%

I have this feeling that he cancelled his visit to Florida because of his fear of flying. I remember hearing that it took something big for him to get on the plane and go to USC a while back. I think its a three team race between UofM, MSU and tO$U. I think as it stands right now here is the percentages of the teams left.....

UofM -- 40%

tO$U -- 40%

MSU -- 20%

Florida - uncancelled, he's visiting this weekend.

And on MSU -
Ish Johnson - solid commit, period.
No more DB's being taken(WTF? turned down Hancock and Coleman; someone locked up?)
Hancock and Davis committed to Toledo, Gresham FSU, Merrill Wiscy, Fanuzzi Bama.

Alex Williams is possibly looking away from OU - his teammate decommitted, and OU's coaching instability has him at least somewhat worried. He has FSU out of his top 3; and he is interested in Bama(only bad news here).

Confused as to the plan right now. Seems like we might have a few silents(Dumphord likely).

What instability at OU? you know something we don't? It didn't scare The Stain away.

What instability at OU? you know something we don't? It didn't scare The Stain away.

Stoops is being mentioned as a candidate for the Cowboys job, maybe that is what he meant?

I have this feeling that he cancelled his visit to Florida because of his fear of flying. I remember hearing that it took something big for him to get on the plane and go to USC a while back. I think its a three team race between UofM, MSU and tO$U. I think as it stands right now here is the percentages of the teams left.....

UofM -- 40%

tO$U -- 40%

MSU -- 20%

MSU 1% and that is because of his bro. I would bet of Jesus returning to Earth, rocking a Plaxico Burress jersey and a Spartan helmet before I would bet on RoJo in EL. I'd have a heart attack.

He's going to UM

Stoops is being mentioned as a candidate for the Cowboys job, maybe that is what he meant?

That's correct.

Stoops to the pros has caused a bunch of recruits to hop off. They are all getting told - "He's ditching you guys before the sanctions come down."

3 MSU kids were bumped to 3 stars - Cousins, McGaha, and Anderson. Arthur Ray Jr. was upped to 20th OG from 55th(5.7 RR rather than 5.5 too).

And UM had Mark Huyge moved up to 3 stars, and and Jr. Hemmingway got dropped to 3.

I disagree with Cousins and Huyge's rankings, both should've stayed at 2 IMO. The others I'm OK with. I think that Cousins Elite 11 regional camp performance helped him.

WOTS is that Minister Barksdale received a $50K "donation" from a Louisianan just days after the MSU in home visit. Hmmmmmmmm.

Hipdigit:
WHO told you that Barksdales Dad, a minister, would understand "more money buys a bigger couch in heaven (or, in this case, maybe a Lexus SUV)?

MSU favored for Alex Williams 3 star OT from Louisiana offered by OU, FSU, and Nebraska. Bama made a late push too, but he said no thanks.

MSU favored for Alex Williams 3 star OT from Louisiana offered by OU, FSU, and Nebraska. Bama made a late push too, but he said no thanks.

That's pretty solid company. Detroit...just curious, where do you get your info from? Are you connected to the program in some way?

That's pretty solid company. Detroit...just curious, where do you get your info from? Are you connected to the program in some way?

Rivals and being a local FB fan, and just a general diehard. Rivals tells me who is going where and provides video(possibly their best feature) which helps me make my own conclusions.

On some stuff I actually have 'connections' but they aren't great. My grandpa is huge into the program, so he'll be able to tell me how the 5th string walkon gunner is looking, and 1 MSU commit(Joel Foreman) is from my old HS so I know some stuff from that perspective, but it's not like I'm getting stuff from MD.

I'm a big HS football fan(mostly Milford, but some in general), so I've seen many of the Michigan kids play, so evaluation wise that is fun. TommyZ is into that too, he was on the Searn boards, which is probably the best HS FB boards for Michigan(though not as trafficked as MLive).

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Chase Dumphord(OT/OG offered by Auburn, Kentucky, and Louisville) is believed to be a silient commit, and is listed as a commit on Scout(their new guy is connected with MD's staff, too bad the rest of their service sucks so bad). Dumphord was also All Region basketball last year, and is hoping to be All State(averaging 18 and 16). If Izzo needs a banger down low he might have one for the spring in future years.

That would be a really nice OL class - Ray and Williams = studs, Dumphord and McGaha = very solid, and Foreman is one hell of a 'sleeper' as he is VERY VERY good having seen him live many many times.

I'm a big HS football fan(mostly Milford, but some in general), so I've seen many of the Michigan kids play, so evaluation wise that is fun. TommyZ is into that too, he was on the Searn boards, which is probably the best HS FB boards for Michigan(though not as trafficked as MLive).

Yeah, Searn's site is a great site..no kiddie stuff either which is great...I know alot of high school coaches in Michigan..Im a Mega/wlaa follower and have quite a few connections with the PSL...I watch alot of Michigan high school football..

I know this is probably common knowledge but look or cissko to possibly commit early to u of m...Also, a running back out of country day in Jonas Grey ending up a Michigan...Not early but a lean...

Signing Day is in 8 days and there has to be something exciting going on...........Tommy, Chris, Mood, Tre, Glenn, DSC............anyone got anything?

I've got a bad case of priapism.

Fein announces next Tuesday, believed to be leaning a bit towards Ole Miss.

Okoli has PSU and VTech up top, deciding tomorrow.

Okoji seems to not have been that into his Iowa visit, but isn't even sure if he should visit other places, when Iowa and MSU(not visited) are his offers, he seems out there.

Jeremiah Martin is expected to visit this weekend, he might not commit till after signing day though(Grades?).

Stefanik may be brought in for a visit soon.

Alex Williams is an MSU lean, probably deciding on signing day.

Chase Dumphord's coach said the Chase will sign with MSU come signing day.

Everson may be interested in MSU.

Michigan related - Donovan Warren is believed to be a USC lean, but 'not by as much as earlier thought'. He at least considered coming out to UM for a 2nd tour.

Signing Day is in 8 days and there has to be something exciting going on...........Tommy, Chris, Mood, Tre, Glenn, DSC............anyone got anything?

Filly,

I'm purely a voyuer in this discussion, just trying to read and learn. [smilie=peepwall.gi:

Signing Day is in 8 days and there has to be something exciting going on...........Tommy, Chris, Mood, Tre, Glenn, DSC............anyone got anything?

Im still saying that RoJo will end up at Michgan...Im trying to find out about Everson for you spartan fans...I honestly would find it very surprising if he decided to de-commit from Ga.Tech....He is going there with a fantastic quarterback recruit in Steven Threet from Adrian..Having someone there from your "area" helps out alot...

To be honest with you State fans.I am really surprised that D'antonio has not made efforts to go after either Steven Threet or Justin Siller (committed to Purdue)...Both of those quarterbacks are high end QB's out of the state of Michigan..To me,it makes no sense...

Filly,

I'm purely a voyuer in this discussion, just trying to read and learn. [smilie=peepwall.gi:

I was thinking the same thing. I enjoy the talk, but I have ZERO to report on this stuff.

Well speculation is running rampant over on scout.com that Michigans in home visit was canceled tonight.. I cant confirm nothing as my guy is busy right now...

Yup, word on the national board on rivals is that RoJo has dropped Michigan and the in-home has been cancelled. Most believe that RoJo is unsure how long LC will be the coach and what will happen after. I guess other schools are doing some negative recruiting. I've had a bad feeling about this all along.

Here's a comment from Tony Annese, RoJo's high school coach, who's been seen as a pro-Michigan guy.

From Tony Annese:

"I'm not even part of this process anymore. You're going to have to call his mother."

God I hate recruiting. How's that for some juice Filly?

I have heard the same thing from the Scout board.

His mom is the one who dropped UM. They think it is USC or UF (with UF being in the lead), but not to discount MSU in all this as his brother is already committed there.

Funny how after he blew out his knee only one school stood by him.

Things are looking decent for Warren from the WC.

The plan this week for the recruitment of five-star Muskegon, (Mich.) defensive back Ronald Johnson was to host each of the head coaches from the five remaining schools on his list and then come to a final decision for his Sunday announcement at church. Well, it's only Wednesday, but there have already been changes in that plan.

Muskegon head coach Tony Annese confirmed with The Wolverine Wednesday morning that a planned visit from Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr to Muskegon High today did not happen and was not expected to. Whether or not that means Michigan is out of the running, Annese could not comment on and directed all inquiries to the Johnson family.

On Monday, Johnson told The Wolverine that he would start to trim his list throughout the week after he and his mother had the time to sit down and discuss the five remaining schools on his list starting Tuesday.

"We'll probably narrow it down to three, two and then pick the college I am going to go to," Johnson said. "By Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday we should know and get it together for Sunday."

With Michigan not visiting in the school or in Johnson's home today, the prospects of the Wolverines landing his commitment on Sunday do not look as promising as they did before the week began.

From what is being said...ROJO committed to UM twice (last december and then again some time this season) with his mom making him decommit after each time.