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Wizzle
12-14-2006, 04:03 PM
From MLive:

Thursday, December 14, 2006

Henne too ... probably Hart
There were not too many concerns that Chad Henne would actually turn pro before his senior season, but he's decided that he's coming back. And it sounds like Mike Hart's joining him.


"We have unfinished business," Henne said on a conference call. "I haven't beaten Ohio State. We have a great corps coming back. We have a great chance to do it."

Meanwhile, junior running back Mike Hart said he was "99 percent sure" he would return to Michigan.


Something tells me that all the potential early-entrant candidates had a talk that might have touched on something related to "unfinished business."




Long coming back
I hinted at this yesterday, but since it's official now ... Jake Long will be back for his senior season.


"It's best for me and for the team," he said. "I looked into it a little bit, but I never was close to leaving. I really want my degree, and we have unfinished business as a team."


Good start to the 2007 season right there.

Hell yes

Glenn
12-14-2006, 04:09 PM
Wow, that's a great surprise.

IBDTSWAAMFT

detroitsportscity
12-14-2006, 04:12 PM
Wow, that's a great surprise.

IBDTSWAAMFT

In Before Dr. Tre says whines about another michigan football thread?

Glenn
12-14-2006, 04:19 PM
Man, you're good.

"Starts whining", but close enough.

Keep your flamethrower holstered, Tre, it's all in good fun.

detroitsportscity
12-14-2006, 04:44 PM
Man, you're good.

"Starts whining", but close enough.

Keep your flamethrower holstered, Tre, it's all in good fun.

I actually had that, but I was first thinking 'says why another...' but I couldn't get another A, so I got whining about another, and didn't remember to switch says. I mean, says whines doesn't make a lot of sense.

But I think I was a little lucky on that one, as those usually own me.

Jethro34
12-14-2006, 05:39 PM
I'll step away from the pretty funny stuff and go right to the actual story.

Regarding Henne - duh. If he ever considered leaving it shouldn't have taken long for him to wake up and realize how bad that idea would have been.

Regarding Long - if he stands by this like anyone making such a bold statement should, it's VERY good news. This team will already have enough holes, they didn't need that to be another one.

Regarding Hart - 99%? Come on Cuba Gooding Jr, give us the rest. Your best lineman is returning and you know you want another shot at Ohio State. Concerning your draft status, you're up crap creek either way. Leave this year and you've got to fight Peterson and most likely a dozen other juniors and seniors that could be picked higher. Wait a year and you have one heck of a group of this year's sophomores to contend with. McFadden, Rice, Slaton, James Davis? Wow. That's one heck of a RB class. Hart just needs to accept that he's probably a 3rd round pick one way or another but he should spend one more year at Michigan to meet some serious goals including beating the Buckeyes and rolling up the career chart.

Zip Goshboots
12-14-2006, 05:42 PM
Jethro:
I couldn't agree more. I can't envision Hart having much of a pro career anyway. I'm hearing that Crable and Branch have also committed to staying. I wasn't aware that Crable had another year.

Jethro34
12-14-2006, 05:49 PM
Yeah, Crable was in the same recruiting class as Burgess, Woodley, etc - but he was a redshirt.
If he and Branch stay that would be absolutely HUGE! Crable could certainly benefit draft-wise from a strong year, one in which he would be the most experienced LB by far.
As for Branch, he certainly can't move up the charts much more than he already is considerring how many mocks have him projected as a top 10 pick. However, he could move up a little and get better money in a guaranteed contract, he could gain some individual accolades, he could develop a bit more to improve his ability to have an immediate NFL impact, and he could have that same shot at beating the Buckeyes that was mentioned before. He's probably the hardest sell.

Zip Goshboots
12-14-2006, 06:12 PM
Well, I haven't heard ANYBODY talk about Crable as a pro yet. ESPN had Pat Forde on yesterday and he discussed ten or so players who are considering coming out. Branch didn't make that list.
Could be that Forde assumes either way what Branch is doing.
I would leave if I was Branch, especially considering that he's already had a knee injury. It's that old "stock never higher" thing, like you said.

Baker
12-14-2006, 06:35 PM
Sounds like Michigan Football thread to me. Do we really need another UM football thread?

LOL, you knew that was coming

detroitsportscity
12-14-2006, 06:45 PM
I think that Branch is going, and that Hart should.

Hart is a back that has had a few injuries, and is getting 4.3 thousand carries. On top of that he may lose a few carries due to the talented youth behind him that will improve 1 more year(I mean lose a few carries not his job, of course). Injuries plus a coach trying to cause more(if unintentionally) would make me nervous.

Henne - depends on who is in/out, if he is considered a 1st or even 2nd rounder I think he should take it, as he should know that this team is still going to run 1st, and this could be a pretty thin class if Brohm and company stay. He also has serious potential to be the 'workout warrior' with his rocket arm and surprising athleticism(more so if you've seen him play), shooting him up.

IMO Long, Branch, and Hart should go, Henne should see who is going, and Crable should stay.

Jethro34
12-14-2006, 07:16 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think Hart's decision may have a lot to do with the Rose Bowl. If Michigan wins the game and Hart is the MVP, he just might leave. However, if he doesn't go out on top, he may want to stick around so there isn't that bad taste in his mouth, so to speak.

If that is in fact the case, it's hard to want him to stick around, because obviously I want him to perform well and Michigan to win.

By the way, if he leaves it won't be the running Michigan misses as much. They have depth there and other guys may not be quite as good but they can get the job done. What Michigan will truly miss from him is the enthusiasm and leadership. He's a guy that can get teammates pumped up. They'll need someone else with that sideline energy and positive vibe.

ACfromtheD
12-14-2006, 09:32 PM
Jake Long is an idiot for not going.

Jethro34
12-14-2006, 09:47 PM
Ok, well, you might want to spell opportunity correctly in your sig, no reason to assume Yzerman can't spell.

ACfromtheD
12-14-2006, 09:57 PM
Thanks, I copied it from a quote website and totally missed it, solid catch. I'll get right on it.

But this time, try and respond to whats being discussed.

Doesn't change the fact that its a foolish and frankly reckless decision on Jake Long's part. He is risking his status as a top 10 pick for a chance to beat Ohio State. I understand that as a fan of the team everyone is psyched that they get a great player back. But think about what is best for the kid and his future. His window of opportunity (hey, I got it that time) as football player is small and can slam shut at any time.

It's a stupid decision pretty much any way you slice it.

Moodini31
12-14-2006, 11:19 PM
Awesome news about Jake, but I have a feeling Branch is long gone and now I'm starting to worry about Hart. He said he's 99% sure that he's coming back. Well, I remember Michael Jordan saying that he was 99.9% sure he wasn't going to "unretire" and come back and play for the Wizards. So there's actually less of a chance that Hart returns vs. Jordan joining the Wizards, (Yikes!) unless Hart's and Jordan's percentages are on different scales, LOL.

Here's why I'm starting to get a little shook.

- Is Hart's stock going to get any higher than it is right now? He is who he is as a back and he just finished fifth in the Heisman Trophy balloting. Sorry, but he's not going to show NFL coaches something new as a senior that they haven't already seen.

- The RB class this year, especially the seniors, is really weak. Next year when Slaton, McFadden, etc. come out, it will be a much deeper field.

- He is healthy. This may not be his top reason, but it should be. Never will he be able to show pro scouts more than he will this winter/spring. After last season, staying healthy is not going to be taken for granted by Hart.

Jethro34
12-15-2006, 06:58 AM
According to most mock drafts, Long is the 5th or 6th OL. That's hardly top 10 status. There, I replied to the actual subject.

WTFchris
12-15-2006, 09:34 AM
I agree on Hart. I'd like to see him back, but he's probably best off leaving (assuming he has a decent Rose Bowl).

We all know Peterson will go first, but Hart could easily be a middle to late first round pick. With next year having McFadden, Slaton, the Louisville RB?, not sure who else will be a hot name...I think his stock is highest now (unless they ran the tables next year).

Glenn
12-15-2006, 09:40 AM
I think a quick look at UM's schedule next year has these guys thinking they can do something special.

If they all come back, there is no way this is not a BCS (Top 8) team for sure, as far as I can tell at least. They could win the whole thing (pollsters willing).

Baker
12-15-2006, 12:56 PM
I think Jake Long should go if he's a first round pick. Why flirt with disaster? From what I hear, he would be a first rounder.

Funny that Hart is brought up in regards to the Rose Bowl. I was actually going to start a thread,
"If you had to chose one, which would you take?" a) Michigan wins the Rose Bowl, Hart leaves. b) Michigan loses the Rose Bowl, Hart stays

I think it might come down to that. Like Moodini said, Hart isn't going to raise his stock any higher. He had a great year, I don't really see him adding unreal speed to his game. I think he's at his peak right now.

WTFchris
12-15-2006, 02:59 PM
I think Jake Long should go if he's a first round pick. Why flirt with disaster? From what I hear, he would be a first rounder.

Funny that Hart is brought up in regards to the Rose Bowl. I was actually going to start a thread,
"If you had to chose one, which would you take?" a) Michigan wins the Rose Bowl, Hart leaves. b) Michigan loses the Rose Bowl, Hart stays

I think it might come down to that. Like Moodini said, Hart isn't going to raise his stock any higher. He had a great year, I don't really see him adding unreal speed to his game. I think he's at his peak right now.

I'd take a Rose Bowl win and Hart leaving. While I'd like to have him back, I'd hate to hear all the Florida slappy's say I told you so...not to mention the players who have never won a bowl game.

H1Man
12-15-2006, 03:10 PM
According to most mock drafts, Long is the 5th or 6th OL. That's hardly top 10 status. There, I replied to the actual subject.

If Long came out this year, I think he would be the second best tackle behind Joe Thomas. And with so many teams in need of top offensive tackles, he would've definitely been a Top 10 pick.

Jethro34
12-15-2006, 03:18 PM
If Long came out this year, I think he would be the second best tackle behind Joe Thomas. And with so many teams in need of top offensive tackles, he would've definitely been a Top 10 pick.

From what I've seen people have Thomas #1, then Blaylock from Texas, Levi Brown from Penn State, and in some cases Ryan Harris from Notre Dame all rated above Long.

ACfromtheD
12-15-2006, 03:46 PM
According to most mock drafts, Long is the 5th or 6th OL. That's hardly top 10 status. There, I replied to the actual subject.

What mocks are those? nfldraftcountdown had him going 9 in their first mock. Great Blue has him 3rd behind Levi Brown (which will change as people realize Brown is a fraud). And the huddle report has him the same (3rd OT).

He would be a top half of the first round pick barring a disaster of a combine.

Jethro34
12-15-2006, 05:08 PM
That prbably depends on what position makes a run in the first round. Some years being the #3 to #5 OT might make you a top 10 pick. Others years it puts you in the 2nd round and out of guaranteed money.

Either way, he obviously has some serious reasons and a commitment to the team. Hard to call him an idiot for that.

ACfromtheD
12-15-2006, 05:34 PM
That prbably depends on what position makes a run in the first round. Some years being the #3 to #5 OT might make you a top 10 pick. Others years it puts you in the 2nd round and out of guaranteed money.

Either way, he obviously has some serious reasons and a commitment to the team. Hard to call him an idiot for that.

Ok how is shortsided and foolish? I would love to see Jake Long come back and lead Michigan to an NC, but if you are truly looking at what would be best for Jake Long I think this is the wrong decision.

He is risking so much in terms of being able to set himself up for life for one season of college football. You can call it honoring a committment, but if I was Lloyd and I truly had the kids interest in mind you would have to tell him to take the money right?

And also, if Alan Branch declares would you say he didn't honor his commitment to the team and to the coaches? Would you say he was disloyal for it?

Baker
12-17-2006, 07:38 PM
If you are a 1st round pick, you leave. Money is not everything, however you are risking your future and your families future playing one more year in college. It just doesn't make sense. We are talking millions of dollars. Even if you don't need the money, think about how many people you could help with that money.

Zip Goshboots
12-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Dr Tre:
I happen to agree with you. If the money is there, and you are a first round pick, you go.
As for helping other people, I say fuck them. If they are counting on Jake Long's football career, well, what if he slips on the ice checking his mail this winter, and never plays a down in the NFL? It would suck to be those leeches. And then what, is Jake supposed to go out and get two jobs to support those worthless fucks?
You do it for YOU. If Aunt Gertie needs a hip replacement because she has lain around eating four gallons of Double Chocolate Strawberry Moose Shit ice cream for 45 years and she weighs 800 pounds now, and she was counting on your being a first round pick of the Bufalo Bills so she could get that operation, too fucking bad. It's not your responsibility to take care of a bunch of losers who waged their future on you being a football player.

Baker
12-17-2006, 10:04 PM
Dr Tre:
I happen to agree with you. If the money is there, and you are a first round pick, you go.
As for helping other people, I say fuck them. If they are counting on Jake Long's football career, well, what if he slips on the ice checking his mail this winter, and never plays a down in the NFL? It would suck to be those leeches. And then what, is Jake supposed to go out and get two jobs to support those worthless fucks?
You do it for YOU. If Aunt Gertie needs a hip replacement because she has lain around eating four gallons of Double Chocolate Strawberry Moose Shit ice cream for 45 years and she weighs 800 pounds now, and she was counting on your being a first round pick of the Bufalo Bills so she could get that operation, too fucking bad. It's not your responsibility to take care of a bunch of losers who waged their future on you being a football player.

When I say "help other people" I'm talking about those less fortunate. If I had millions, the first thing I'd do is find a way to start an organization to help those in need. I'm a Christian guy, therefore I believe if you are doing well, you ought to help those that haven't been as blessed.

Maybe that doesn't fit in with your fuck everyone else, do it for yourself outlook on life.

Zip Goshboots
12-17-2006, 10:26 PM
OK, Mr Christian, how many people do you help RIGHT NOW?
Why wait until you win the lottery to become the "Great White Administrator"?

tommyz
12-18-2006, 09:25 AM
I understand why people say he should go and I myself would probably go too..But what is wrong with him staying,because he wanted his degree? That was one of the reasons he stayed,as he stated...

MoTown
12-18-2006, 09:29 AM
I agree, Tommy. Some people just like college. See: Matt Leinart. Would have been a top 3 pick in 2005.

I'll admit, if I was Long I'd take the money. But it's not that far out of the question to stay. Michigan is a great place to play - the biggest stadium in the country with an amazing tradition. In his mind I'm sure he thinks he'll live it up in the NFL for a long time. I hope for his sake he doesn't get hurt.

tommyz
12-18-2006, 09:53 AM
I agree, Tommy. Some people just like college. See: Matt Leinart. Would have been a top 3 pick in 2005.

I'll admit, if I was Long I'd take the money. But it's not that far out of the question to stay. Michigan is a great place to play - the biggest stadium in the country with an amazing tradition. In his mind I'm sure he thinks he'll live it up in the NFL for a long time. I hope for his sake he doesn't get hurt.

I just hope he does not take just 1 class that ends up being ballroom dancing.....LOL

Artermis
12-22-2006, 01:02 PM
The only junior that has not committed to coming back is Branch so far.

Crable is coming back for his senior year and so is Long.

Zip Goshboots
12-22-2006, 01:17 PM
I would have to say that Branch is as good as gone. I'd go if I were him, especially considering the fact that he has already had one knee injury.
I think he's a Top 5 pick this year if he goes.

Artermis
12-23-2006, 09:44 AM
All I know about Branch situation is that someone on Scout site knows Branch and Branch has not made up his mind yet one way or another.

I personally dont see him staying because top 10 pick is just too much money to leave on the table, especially when there are reports that he doesnt exactly like the college lifestyle (i.e. going to class).

Jethro34
12-26-2006, 07:03 PM
Branch well grown, not grown up

Big Michigan defensive tackle fires up with football and calms down with coloring books.

Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News

LOS ANGELES -- Alan Branch estimates that at least five times a day, he gets the question.

Are you staying?

Branch, a starting defensive tackle for No. 3 Michigan, is waffling when it comes to his future. He could return for his senior season or he could inform the NFL by Jan. 15 that he will enter the April draft.

He said he has an inkling which way he's leaning, but has no idea if Michigan's Rose Bowl game against No. 8 Southern California on New Year's Day will be his last with the Wolverines.

"Hopefully I wake up one day and just make a choice, so I can get everybody off my back," Branch said with a laugh. "This semester, I had a lot of fun. Going to the pros, that's a grown-up world, and I don't know if I'm ready for that now. I like having fun right now. I've developed a really nice bond with a lot of the guys. There are pros and cons to everything."

And they are?

"The pro for going is millions of dollars and getting to play better competition, and that really excites me," said Branch, who is 6-foot-6, 331 pounds. "And the pro for staying is my friends, the team unity, and we're going to have a great team next year and could win a national championship."

Either way, Branch said he intends to get his degree in General Studies. He is about 30 credits shy. Getting his degree has been the only concern of his parents, Detroit natives now living in New Mexico.

"My family is not rich, but they're well off," said Branch, who had 23 tackles, two sacks, one pass breakup, two forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries this season. "They don't need my money, or they don't need me to go right away, so that's why I think I'm in a good situation, because I'm not forced to do anything.

"I could come back, I could leave. There's no pressure from anyone in my family. They're just there to support me."

Branch is generally an easy-going, roll-with-the-punches kind of guy. Not much flusters or frustrates him. Well, not much except traveling to Southern California.

He was a half-hour from landing in Albuquerque to spend a few days at home before heading to Los Angeles, when snow prevented the flight from landing. The plane was diverted to Denver, where Branch spent the night.

"I didn't want to waste money going to a hotel and sleeping for five hours, so I slept there (at the airport)," he said. "So I wake up (in Denver), and I see snow, and I thought, 'Oh, man.' They told us we were not going to be able to get on a plane. Then, I went downstairs to figure out how I could get into a hotel, and they were all booked. I was in the airport for over 24 hours. I'm sure there were some people who thought I was a bum, but I lay down on the floor. I'm usually an upbeat guy, but that was the most bitter I've been."

Branch never got home.

"I missed the pecan pie, the sweet potato pie," he said.

The thing about Branch, though, is he is resilient. He has a youthful approach to most things and often is considered a kid in a big guy's body. During practices here as the Wolverines have prepared for USC, Branch has been seen doing cartwheels on the field.

"My favorite shows are cartoons," Branch said. "I am a little kid. If you want to hang out with me, you're going to have to sit down and watch some cartoons, because I watch them all day long. If you don't feel like doing it, don't come over to my house. I never grew out of that stage, I guess. I just love it. It's funny."

He occasionally taps into his inner kid with coloring books. Branch said he uses crayons and has done five books this year.

"It relaxes me," he said. "A lot of people don't think about the little things that make you happy. Just coloring, that was fun for us (as kids)."

His off-the-field nature can't be confused for the young man who takes the field for Michigan.

"If you ask anyone who knows me personally, they'll say I'm a cool, calm, collected guy, but when I get my pads on, I become a whole new person," Branch said. "I become this crazy guy that you don't expect from me."

Branch also is considered one of the most astute Wolverines.

"The greatest attribute he has, when I ask questions, it doesn't matter what position, he answers," said defensive line coach Steve Stripling. "He's one of the smartest football players I've ever coached. Sometimes in game films, they'll come out in a new formation, and guys won't know where to line up, and he'll start telling them. He is really a brilliant football player."

He also has frequently been described by Michigan coaches as a phenomenal athlete. In high school, he played baseball, basketball and soccer, and in football, he played nearly every position -- receiver, tight end, running back, quarterback, punt returner, cornerback and linebacker -- and, yes, he was this size back then.

Zip Goshboots
01-02-2007, 12:12 PM
I tell ya, it's a good thing these Michigan players are coming back for another year.
It's going to be really something to be the first Michigan class to lose to Ohio State AND lose a bowl game four years in a row.
And, thank GOD, our leader and mentor, Lloyd Carr will be there to lead them to this historic achievement.
If there is one face that sums up the frustration of Michigan Football, it is the GREAT LLoyd Carr (I know, winner of a half national championship, the first one for the school since 1948).
Welcome back to Ann Arbor, Jake Long, Chad Henne, Mike Hart, and Shawn Crable. The nation shudders at the thought of yet another Wolverine Juggernaut!

HipDigIt
01-02-2007, 11:59 PM
This is terrible financial advice. The guy is passing on probably $7M in pocket next season so he can stick around and beat up on Eastern Mich., Indiana, and the rest of the cheese before he takes the gaspipe against OSU, this time at home, before the Sun Bowl beatdown. Huh?

Glenn
01-03-2007, 09:45 AM
This is terrible financial advice. The guy is passing on probably $7M in pocket next season so he can stick around and beat up on Eastern Mich., Indiana, and the rest of the cheese before he takes the gaspipe against OSU, this time at home, before the Sun Bowl beatdown. Huh?

LOL, a Spartan fan talking junk about teams that play in the Sun Bowl?

http://www.beavton.k12.or.us/jacob_wismer/leahy/2001/idioms/kettle1.jpg

WTFchris
01-03-2007, 10:26 AM
This is terrible financial advice. The guy is passing on probably $7M in pocket next season so he can stick around and beat up on Eastern Mich., Indiana, and the rest of the cheese before he takes the gaspipe against OSU, this time at home, before the Sun Bowl beatdown. Huh?

I was with you until you mentioned the Sun Bowl. I think U of M will crush almost everyone next year, but it remains to be seen if they lay a steamer in their two big games or not. I can't fault any of those juniors for wanting to erase the memory of losing all your big games. Suppose they go to a team like the Lions that will never win the big one. You better win while you can.

On the flip side it is a financial risk as you mentioned.

detroitsportscity
01-03-2007, 07:49 PM
I was with you until you mentioned the Sun Bowl. I think U of M will crush almost everyone next year, but it remains to be seen if they lay a steamer in their two big games or not. I can't fault any of those juniors for wanting to erase the memory of losing all your big games. Suppose they go to a team like the Lions that will never win the big one. You better win while you can.

On the flip side it is a financial risk as you mentioned.

I see UM going 8-4/9-3 next year. Debord isn't going to let that O perform like they should, and the D is losing a lot. So UM will drop a couple/few.

FillyCheezeSteak
01-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Have you checked the schedule next year..................take a look and then look at what every team in the Big Ten is bringing back and tell me how Michigan doesn't win the Big Ten or go 7-1 minimum!!!

detroitsportscity
01-03-2007, 10:49 PM
They lose to OSU.

I think Iowa could end up pretty good next year, I'll call that my #2.

Plus one upset - MSU? NW(always pesky)? UW(still return some pretty good talent)?

And then the bowl game.

And I haven't checked your schedule. And UM/OSU next year = OSU. They return a lot. We'll see just how much, but they're gonna be good again next year.

HipDigIt
01-04-2007, 08:02 AM
News Flash:
30 of the last 37 years either U-M or OSU (at times BOTH) figured in a share of the Big 10 Title. Is there a pattern here? Can you say Big Deuce Little 9? It is what it is.

Zip Goshboots
01-04-2007, 09:11 AM
detroitsportscity:
MAN, you REALLY go out on a limb there, don't ya?
"Michigan could lose to: Iowa, MSU, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Penn State, Illinois, Indiana, Notre Dame, Purdue, Minnesota, or Oregon.
They will lose to Ohio State (Notice my balls. OSU has beaten them five of the last six. I'm making the bold prediction that UM loses to them next year).
And here is his BOLDEST prediction of them all: Iowa COULD be pretty good next year.
Fuckin' A, you oughtta have your own radio show.

detroitsportscity
01-04-2007, 03:51 PM
detroitsportscity:
MAN, you REALLY go out on a limb there, don't ya?
"Michigan could lose to: Iowa, MSU, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Penn State, Illinois, Indiana, Notre Dame, Purdue, Minnesota, or Oregon.
They will lose to Ohio State (Notice my balls. OSU has beaten them five of the last six. I'm making the bold prediction that UM loses to them next year).
And here is his BOLDEST prediction of them all: Iowa COULD be pretty good next year.
Fuckin' A, you oughtta have your own radio show.

I meant could as in 30-50% shot, and they aren't gonna lose to ND, IU, UI, or Minny. Those teams are gonna lose by 30+.

I say could as in - there's a pretty good shot, but I'm gonna have to see how things shake out before committing(who leaves early for teams, Ferentz to pro's?, etc.).

Congratulations on bitching about me saying what I thought, with 9 months till next season, so there was no reason I could possibly leave some room for change. I mean seriously.

I'm not like you, I try to have all(nearly all) my predictions to actually have some reason behind them, because I want them to be something I can stand back on. So I'm not going to commit to something until there is reason to believe it, rather than spewing random shit like you do. Not that that isn't fine too, but it's not my style.

And if I had a radio show I would commit to UM losing to CMU for the next 20 years or some other retarded thing, and preach 'Jungle Karma' or some dumbass thing when I bring 472 favorites on and some win.

Zip Goshboots
01-04-2007, 08:38 PM
You're saying I spew "random shit"?
How on Earth can you make that claim?

Zip Goshboots
01-04-2007, 08:42 PM
So, when can I look forward to seeing your REAL predictions?
And then your For REal predictions?
And then your Really for real predictions?
Honestly, you Sparties kick back and predict UM to lose every week. I guess the old saying is true: A broken clock is still right twice a day (unless it's a digital, in which case it is just not working and doesn't show any time).

Moodini31
01-04-2007, 10:18 PM
Looks like Branch is gone. Word is he hasn't registered for any classes this semester and they started today, so let's go Terrance Taylor and Brandon Graham!

Jethro34
01-05-2007, 06:46 AM
Maybe he just wanted a Katzenmoyer schedule and he's on the wait list for golf, water aerobics, history of underwear, study hall 1, study hall 2, and advanced beginnings.

Jethro34
01-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Official now, Branch is in the draft.

Kinda sucks. We still have talent there but obviously I'm not going to claim he wouldn't make a HUGE impact. I wish him well in the NFL.

Glenn
01-09-2007, 08:21 AM
He won't get past the Skins at #6, so you can't really blame him.

Jethro34
01-17-2007, 05:42 PM
I won't be here long, still avoiding much of the catfighting of the forum, but I am here for a question.
I saw on either rivals or scout that Michigan had announced some coaching changes (and it featured a picture of Ron Lee) but it's a premium article and mgoblue.com has nothing about it.
Anyone know what the changes are? Since it could technically be classified as Wolverines (coaches) that are or are not returning, I chose to use this thread.

Jethro34
01-17-2007, 05:47 PM
Sorry, just noticed Chris put something about this in the recruiting thread. Disregard my visit.

Artermis
01-19-2007, 04:02 PM
Ron Lee is out and I heard Curt Mallory would be replacing him from someone on the scout site.

Zip Goshboots
01-25-2007, 04:03 PM
Not sure this deserves a new thread, but did anyone hear Dhani Jones on Dan Patrick?
He got into a little Michigan football talk. He was not very happy with what he perceived as a "lack of preparation" for the Rose Bowl, called Chad Henne the "ultimate choke", and said that UM's lack of being able to go out west and play a good Rose Bowl is an ongoing problem.
The only thing I disagree on is Chad Henne. I think he is going to be a very good pro. He is totally handicapped by UM's lack of offensive planning and strategy. When he gets the UM handcuffs off, I look for this kid to blossom. He has a very strong arm, is good with the intermediate throws, and has a very good deep ball.
I think his career at UM is going to be marked by much dissapointment, and that he won;t exactly leave with "warm and fuzzies" for Lloyd and staff.

WTFchris
01-26-2007, 09:52 AM
How did Henne choke? I don't remember him having any bad games this whole year. He had an off year last year though. i'd call the play calling the choke job.

Baker
01-26-2007, 10:48 AM
Not sure this deserves a new thread, but did anyone hear Dhani Jones on Dan Patrick?
He got into a little Michigan football talk. He was not very happy with what he perceived as a "lack of preparation" for the Rose Bowl, called Chad Henne the "ultimate choke", and said that UM's lack of being able to go out west and play a good Rose Bowl is an ongoing problem.
The only thing I disagree on is Chad Henne. I think he is going to be a very good pro. He is totally handicapped by UM's lack of offensive planning and strategy. When he gets the UM handcuffs off, I look for this kid to blossom. He has a very strong arm, is good with the intermediate throws, and has a very good deep ball.
I think his career at UM is going to be marked by much dissapointment, and that he won;t exactly leave with "warm and fuzzies" for Lloyd and staff.

Damn, pretty harsh. I think the stuff about needing to play better is accurate. However, generally you want former players saying good things about their former school and supporting them, not bashing them on national radio.

Zip Goshboots
01-31-2007, 02:05 AM
Dr Tre:
You are correct, sir. You do want former players to speak highly of the team. However, in this case, Jones was right on about the coaching. And, the worst fan is the one who buries his head in the sand and shouts: "Hey! We're the number one all time winning team! We've pounded Ohio State 59-39 in the series! We are GREAT!"
You have to see the deterioration in the program, and look at a kid like Jeremy Finch (an early, solid committ) changing his mind and going to friggin' INDIANA.
Jones was off his rocker about Henne, though. Henne is solid, and will be a very good pro.