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Matt
11-15-2006, 08:31 AM
Pistons vs Hornets Preview (http://www.nba.com/games/20061115/NOKDET/preview.html)

A ragged road trip left the Detroit Piston searching for consistency. Perhaps a return to The Palace can turn things around.

The Pistons begin a three-game homestand Wednesday when they host the New Orleans Hornets.

Detroit completed a 1-3 West Coast road trip with an embarrassing 111-79 loss Saturday to Golden State that came one day after the Pistons played their best game of the year in a 97-83 win over the Los Angeles Lakers.

Detroit, which also lost to Utah and Sacramento, suffered its worst defeat since losing 119-82 to Dallas on Nov. 19, 2005.

``You're concerned no matter when it is (in a season) because you want to get consistency, and we've got to get consistency,'' Pistons coach Flip Saunders said. ``We came out kind of flat and they were hitting some shots in the beginning and pretty much just beat up on us.''

Detroit (3-4) got a much-needed break following Saturday's contest. The Pistons had played seven games in 11 days, the last two without All-Star guard Richard Hamilton, who leads the Pistons in scoring at 22 points per game.

Hamilton, out with a hyperextended right elbow, has been able to practice this week and could be in the lineup against the Hornets.

Detroit also hosts Washington and Houston on this homestand. The Pistons have five of their next six at The Palace, where they are 1-1 this season and matched a team record by going 37-4 in 2005-06.

New Orleans (5-3) had been in a funk of its own. After starting a franchise-best 4-0, the Hornets lost all three games on their own West Coast road trip before returning home to beat Charlotte 94-85 on Tuesday night.

Peja Stojakovic scored a career-high 42 points to help New Orleans win without second-leading scorer David West.

The 6-foot-9 West, averaging 17.4 points and 8.3 rebounds, is out at least two games with a strained right forearm. He's hoping to be back Saturday when the Hornets play Minnesota.

``We really needed somebody to step up and play some basketball with David West being out, and Peja stepped up big time tonight,'' Hornets forward Desmond Mason said. ``That was as wonderful a performance as I've ever seen in person. To have him step up and be a leader as a veteran, that was big time.''

Without West, New Orleans went to Stojakovic early and often. He scored the team's first 20 points and finished with a franchise-record 22 points in the opening quarter.

Stojakovic had another 11 points during a 13-4 fourth-quarter run that sealed the game for the Hornets.

``I just came out aggressive, playing like every other game. I got going, so guys kept looking for me,'' Stojakovic said. ``I kept playing, I kept shooting the ball.

``I don't know how to describe it,'' he said. ``When you're a shooter, you just shoot it even when you're missing - just trying to get yourself involved in the game, and when you make a couple in a row your teammates start looking to you.''

New Orleans will be more short-handed in the frontcourt, as center Tyson Chandler - who had 15 rebounds Tuesday - sustained a mild concussion after he was elbowed in the fourth quarter and didn't travel with the team to Detroit.

The Pistons have won four in a row over the Hornets. Before that, New Orleans had won five of the previous six matchups.

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defrocked
11-15-2006, 09:52 AM
With their beat-up frontcourt, I'd hope we can take advantage. I'd like to see Rip sit this one out just to make sure he's 100%. This early in the season there's no reason to push back from an injury. I don't want this to be a situation where he comes back too soon and has to miss time again later.

Matt
11-15-2006, 10:55 AM
no worries, i'll be at this one, so we'll win.

it's just a matter of how nasty Jason Maxiell gets.

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Glenn
11-15-2006, 12:10 PM
My magic 8 ball says "signs point to a victory tonight".

We're tanned, rested and ready.

And the Hornets are beat up.

Matt
11-15-2006, 12:24 PM
We're ready to kick some serious ass.

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Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:33 PM
RASHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ED Wallace!

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:43 PM
Desmond Mason is a THUG! Not really but he did just foul Rip

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:44 PM
Flip Murray can't make a layup?

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:44 PM
RaSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED Wallace

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:45 PM
Chris Paul cheats

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:45 PM
Flip Murray can't hit a baseline jumper

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:46 PM
Butler cheats too

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:50 PM
RaSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED Wallace can shoot fts

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:50 PM
Chris Paul sucks

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:50 PM
CBill is awesome

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:51 PM
Stoiko is a complainer

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:52 PM
Wallace was fouled

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:52 PM
Nice board Tay

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:53 PM
CBill was FOULED HARD by BJ

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:53 PM
Mr Bigshot can shoot FTs too

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:54 PM
Rasheed Wallace is full of integrity

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:55 PM
LH never touched him

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:56 PM
The refs and the NOKs cheat a lot

Tahoe
11-15-2006, 09:58 PM
The Pistons are AWESOME!

NO Horns 100 Pistons 99

UxKa
11-15-2006, 10:30 PM
Turd. 3-5. Turd again.

Fool
11-15-2006, 11:01 PM
I think this might be our best game thread ever. Way to hold it down Tahoe.

Matt
11-15-2006, 11:26 PM
what a shitty game.

we were getting owned on the boards by guys who get less run than ronald dupree. please, please, please tell me that these are just growing pains, so we'll have a more cohesive 8-9 man deep rotation come playoff time. please tell me that the best teams in the NBA (dallas, phoenix, miami.......us) are just slow out of the gates.

on a cool side note, i got to go behind the scenes of the Palace and meet Amir Johnson, Greg Kelser, and Rockin' Rick Mahorn :D

Matt
11-15-2006, 11:34 PM
oh, and WHY THE FRIGGIN-A does Lindsey play 12 minutes a game?

none of the other bench players did jackshit, but Lindsey is so awful it hurts. he's not the defensive pest he was in the past....and his offense is atrocious. there's no reason he should lead all bench players in FG's attempted.

He hasn't shot over 40% FG since 1999

take all of his minutes and divide them among FlipM, Delfino, and Blalock.

Matt
11-15-2006, 11:35 PM
also, Dice looked like he was in serious pain on the bench, with two trainers tending to him.

NOT a good sign.

b-diddy
11-15-2006, 11:41 PM
oh, and WHY THE FRIGGIN-A does Lindsey play 12 minutes a game?


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when joe payed lindsey 2x his market value he probably also promised him a whole lotta PT.

Fool
11-16-2006, 12:06 AM
If anything has been made clear the last 4 seasons, its that Dumars doesn't take control of player minutes.

Mr. Oobir
11-16-2006, 12:20 AM
This was the worst game I've ever attended. I thought half-jokingly before it started, "Hah, the Pistons can't defend against Chris Paul and the NBDL All-Stars." Jesus Christ, the Pistons were terrible. It doesn't matter if they're trying to integrate the new players or whatever - you don't get into a 15-17 point defecit against the Hornets, period. Plus the old guy in front of me stood up to pull up his pants a few times, which I didn't need to see.

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WTFchris
11-16-2006, 10:18 AM
I really can't understand why we don't use the bench consistantly. You can't tell Max wouldn't have gone in there and stopped those BS baskets they were getting around the hoop. At least he would have given them a hard foul.

The thing that pissed me off the most last night was the lack of a box out on the foul shot missed. And why did Sheed shoot that 3 with 17 seconds left. Either play for 2 shots, or take your time and get a good look. Either Flip had a rotten play drawn up or they executed it bad. When Billups was hot, we should have posted him on Paul too.

Fool
11-16-2006, 10:52 AM
When Max got in in the second, he got owned defensively on the first two possessions by two different guys back to back.

Matt
11-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Flip's substitution were mind boggling. i saw no rhyme or reason when he kept bringing in players. maybe he's just testing out combinations to see what works. but, he'd put in a guy like Flip Murray and then take him out for Lindsey for no reason.

the pistons are most definitely a work in progress right now.

Matt
11-16-2006, 11:55 AM
also, Dice looked like he was in serious pain on the bench, with two trainers tending to him.

NOT a good sign.


Nov 15 McDyess left early in the fourth quarter of Detroit's 100-99 loss to New Orleans on Wednesday with a mild sprain of his left ankle. He had six points and two rebounds at the time.

Advice: McDyess could have returned to the game Wednesday and should be able to play Friday when Detroit hosts Washington.

Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3004/news;_ylt=AuuvhwOtLCmOnZYilvGvhGSkvLYF)

Uncle Mxy
11-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Another game where both our guards get 20+ points and we lose... good grief!

Flip's substitutions when he had Chauncey in Minny were pretty fucked up too, and the T'Wolves fans bitched then.

metr0man
11-16-2006, 04:16 PM
Flip's substitution were mind boggling. i saw no rhyme or reason when he kept bringing in players. maybe he's just testing out combinations to see what works. but, he'd put in a guy like Flip Murray and then take him out for Lindsey for no reason.


This is no different than last season. Even when we were winning, Flip's rotations were shitty and arbitrary.

Everybody talks about things that are directly related to this season but that's how Flip is. He's just a shitty coach, yo.

Yes, I used "yo" at the end of a sentance.

Matt
11-16-2006, 05:04 PM
it seems like it's even worse now that he's determined to get his bench more minutes. before it'd be like one or two WTF?? substitutions per game (usually Mo Evans, lol), but last night FlipM was like a girl who can't make up her mind what color shirt to wear.

WTFchris
11-16-2006, 07:13 PM
it seems like it's even worse now that he's determined to get his bench more minutes. before it'd be like one or two WTF?? substitutions per game (usually Mo Evans, lol), but last night FlipM was like a girl who can't make up her mind what color shirt to wear.

LMAO. My wife always has a half dozen shirts/sweaters out on her day off trying to figure out what to wear.