I know I haven't posted in a loooonnnngggg time, oh well. Anyways, let's get it started; which 1 loss team should be playing the Michigan vs. Ohio State winner. If everything plays out I think it will be either Texas (if they win the Big 12), Florida (if they win the SEC), or possibly the USC vs. California winner.

USC must still play Oregon before Cal, though I believe Cal is he stronger opponent. Really, this isn't SC's year, with the frosh backfield and a QB who's less than stellar. With Sanchez at the helm next year, and Moody with a year of experience, watch out.

IMO, I like Cal and Michigan in a battle of hues (Yellow and Blue, that is). Texas was leapfrogged by Louisville, so Cal can do the same with a solid game against SC. Auburn doesn't impress, and will probably lose one more game before all is done (I say Georgia beats them). Same with Florida (SEC Championship)

Georgia couldnt beat Kentucky. Auburn is going to spank Georgia.

This gets really complicated if the Ducks beat USC and USC beats Cal and USC beats ND and Florida loses to FSU or SEC Champ and Ark loses to Tenn....man this could get ugly.

Cal got spanked hard by Tenn to start the year.

I dont care who UM plays in the MNC as long as ND and USC both get another loss..:)

Texas and Notre Dame by no means belong in the National Championship. Don't give me this bull about late season losses meaning more than early season losses - that's gay.

Texas lost at home to OSU, Notre Dame lost at home to Michigan. In fact they both got spanked. If OSU beats Michigan, why should Texas get a rematch against a team they lost to at home whereas Michigan lost on the road. Why should Notre Dame get to play them when Michigan already beat them. If Michigan wins why should Texas get to play them when OSU already has the tiebreaker. And Notre Dame doesn't deserve a rematch.

The only thing I could see outside of a U of M, OSU rematch is a one loss SEC team playing for the championship - the winner of the SEC.

That is the only fair and logical choice.

Great thread Discovery and good to see you back. IMO, I think Florida and Michigan run the table and meet in the National Championship game. USC will lose to Cal, USC will beat ND, and Cal will be on the outside looking in.

OK in all honesty I was waiting on this thread until after todays game between Iowa and Wisconsin. If Stocco wasnt injured I would have posted before, but considering Donovan was going to play and I wasnt sure about him I didnt want to jinx the team. Wisconsin is 10-1 and only lost to Michigan, on the road at that, who very well could be the champ. Where is the love!?! I know they havent had the strongest schedule, but lets just talk about if Stocco is playing today (I know he doesnt have a lot of respect, but hes something like 27-6 as a starter and although Donovan had comparable numbers today if you watched the game he doesnt even begin to stack up to Stocco who is a very very good QB who Ive even used as a comparison in the Heisman thread because his numbers are so good) they would have won by 20. Im not saying Wisconsin could beat all the top 10 teams out there, but they are 10-1 now, and will be 11-1 after beating Buffalo (sad matchup I know) and if they dont beat Buffalo Ill dump some Ho-Hos on my livingroom floor and eat em (:wink:). Too bad they are playing in a conference that has the two best teams in the country this year, and they dont play one of them. For the record they are a OSU thorn, Wisc beats them regularly in recent years even when its obvious that OSU is the better team. C'mon, just give em a hug, thats all Im asking for. Most bowl projections have them playing Florida in the Capitol One bowl and you know what... I think Wisconsin will win that if they (both) teams are injury free.

I think a lot of things would have to happen for Wisconsin to get the love they should. First, it doesn't help them that they didn't play Ohio State this year. Their non-conference schedule is one of the worst ever. 10-1 (will absolutely be 11-1) is still impressive considering it means your only Big Ten loss is Michigan, but the schedule is the reason for the crap they're getting.

But here's what would need to happen: Oregon beating USC, USC beating Cal and Notre Dame, Florida losing today or in the SEC championship game, Texas losing the Big 12 championship game, West Virginia beating Rutgers, etc. Sadly, for Wisconsin, West Virginia would still be ranked higher, as would at least 1 SEC team, maybe even a 2-loss team or two. And the loser of the Michigan-Ohio State game would also likely be ranked higher. But I would be geeked about 3 Big Ten teams in the BCS formula. It would be great for the conference.

Youre right, but I wasnt saying title game love or anything, just love. A top 10 ranking, some press talk, something anything please.

USC must still play Oregon before Cal, though I believe Cal is he stronger opponent. Really, this isn't SC's year, with the frosh backfield and a QB who's less than stellar. With Sanchez at the helm next year, and Moody with a year of experience, watch out.

IMO, I like Cal and Michigan in a battle of hues (Yellow and Blue, that is). Texas was leapfrogged by Louisville, so Cal can do the same with a solid game against SC. Auburn doesn't impress, and will probably lose one more game before all is done (I say Georgia beats them). Same with Florida (SEC Championship)

Georgia couldnt beat Kentucky. Auburn is going to spank Georgia.

This gets really complicated if the Ducks beat USC and USC beats Cal and USC beats ND and Florida loses to FSU or SEC Champ and Ark loses to Tenn....man this could get ugly.

Cal got spanked hard by Tenn to start the year.

I dont care who UM plays in the MNC as long as ND and USC both get another loss..:)

Care to reassess?:grin:

Yeah I was wrong as usual. I knew Auburn wasnt great, but jeez losing at home to Georgia just makes you a bad football team.

Yeah I was wrong as usual. I knew Auburn wasnt great, but jeez losing at home to Georgia just makes you a bad football team.

Cal just got their asses handed to them by... Arizona?

Wellp? I guess I'm NOT the second coming of Jimmy the Greek.

Anthony and TheKid still have a shot at being that though.

Wow, Florida almost joined the party today as well. Truly 1 loss teams are showing that this year it's the men and then the boys. San Jose is shutting up Boise State as well, likely killing one of the last undefeateds. I'm quite certain West Virginia will drop Rutgers, leaving ONLY the winner of next week's showdown as the lone undefeated team.
If THAT team somehow losses in the National Championship game, there will be about 80 other teams claiming they deserve a share of the championship. It could be ugly. As much as I would hate it, almost anything that causes the powers that be to reconsider a playoff makes me happy.

I think it's clear that the best one loss team would prolly be the loser of next Saturdays game. Will there be a better 1 loss team?

Holy crap, Boise St came back to win. I should probably wait until a game is over to make statements like that.

Ok, this is one thing I think I can safely say. Arkansas is kicking the crap out of Tennessee and there's a minute left, so they will win. Looking at the standings I think that no matter what else happens, this means Arkansas and Florida will play in the SEC championship game. I think Arkansas might still have LSU and Florida still has Florida State (not a big deal this season), but they might both be 1 loss teams going in. At least one will be a 2 loss team afterward.

Meanwhile, Texas is trailing Kansas State at the half by a TD and Colt McCoy is hurt. I'm not sure how serious it is but I don't think it's an immediate concern for this game because Jevan Snead is replacing him and he's a freak. He'll go nuts on K State and Texas will win this game by 10.

denny? Cal who?:grin:

denny? Cal who?:grin:
Forget Cal. Is anybody watching the Texas game?

OMFG!!!!!!!

It's a benefit to live in Cali, where it's only 7:30pm, and watch KState simply torch Texas in the third quarter.

Two consecutive trick plays for a touchdown. Correction: the same play TWICE for a touchdown!!!

Wow... unless Florida wins out, I don't see anything other than a OSU/Michigan rematch....

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/f9a4d01a-9463-438d-8457-9aee83de31a3.jpg

If USC can beat Cal, then there are two more HUGE games this season -

USC v Notre Dame which could be two top 5 teams now

SEC championship: Florida v Arkansas

Both of those games are oozing with BCS and title game implications.

Dont forget Rutgers. If they beat WVU, they will get some serious consideration as an undefeated team.

Teams in the running:

OSU - Win and in.
UM - Win and in.
Florida - Win out and in.
USC - Good shot if they win out
ND - Name could get them in if they win out.
Arkansas - Good shot IF(LSU, Florida, etc. !!!) they win out.
Boise - Incredibly unlikely, but should at least get into the BCS.
Rutgers - Win out, and will at least have a shot.
Wisconsin - Needs a lot of losses in front of them, BCS likely though.
Wake - WAY underrated. Win out and should make the BCS, and maybe an argument they should be there.

My calls -
OSU over UM, OSU in the title game.
Florida loses 1 game, either FSU due to rivalry, or Arkansas in the SEC championship. Not into the championship.
USC up in the air vs. Cal, beats ND.
ND lose to USC.
Arkansas loses to LSU.
Boise wins out, doesn't make the championship.
Rutgers has a shot next week to make it.
Wiscy wins out, makes the BCS.
Wake wins out, BCS.

USC and Rutgers have the best shot, then UM, according to my predictions.

I think it's clear that the best one loss team would prolly be the loser of next Saturdays game. Will there be a better 1 loss team?

I don't think so. As wierd as it would be to have a rematch in the National Championship game, it probably be just that. Let's say Michigan wins. Then Ohio State would have one loss to the #1 team in the country. If Ohio State wins, Michigan has 1 loss to the #1 team in the country on the road. No one loss team is going to have a "better" loss than Michigan or Ohio State.

My head is spinning. Too many scenarios.

While it's certainly shaping up that a close game has all the potnetial of leaving Michigan #2 still in the BCS points - I must say that I'm having nightmares.
Tre says I never pick against Michigan. Well, I'm picking against them this time. So if they lose close and get the rematch, what happens if they lose again? Seriously, 11-0 is awesome, but end it with back to back losses to the hated Buckeyes? I would rather go 8-3 and then beat them. I'll post more on this particular matchup in the OGT.

Having a rematch prolly wouldn't be best. Let the loser go and kick another teams butt and end up prolly #2.

The winner better win the BCS Champ game.

I'm going to go ballistic if Michigan loses to OSU and somehow Notre Dame gets the national title shot vs. OSU.

I don't like the idea of a rematch. How can you expect the winner to beat their rival again?

My prediction: USC (i still don't think ND is that great and they have Cal and ND at home) vs Saturday's winner.

I don't like the idea of a rematch. How can you expect the winner to beat their rival again?

My prediction: USC (i still don't think ND is that great and they have Cal and ND at home) vs Saturday's winner.

I didn't like the idea of Oklahoma getting rung up by KState the last game of the season and STILL getting into the title game.

If there's enough margin between #2 and #3 in the BCS calculations, then it CAN happen.

I think if UM loses a close or controversial game, with the rest of the teams being as tightly packed together as they are, seeing what UM/OSU would look like on a neutral field would have a lot of appeal.

The networks would love it for sure.

I'm going to go ballistic if Michigan loses to OSU and somehow Notre Dame gets the national title shot vs. OSU.

Just reading this(Glenns post) made me nauesous.

I don't want to hate on a Michigan team but MSU taking their foot off the neck of ND is still pissin me off.

This will be interesting to watch play out. By the end of the season, they way they are ranked now... 1 plays 2, 3 plays 5, 4 plays 7, and 6 plays 8. So regardless, 4 of the top 8 teams will lose by the end of the year. I think that means a BCS for Wisconsin too since they are sitting at 9 and only have to bump up 1 spot. 3 Big 10 teams in the BCS sounds pretty nice.

For Notre Dame to get there they would obviously have to beat USC. Still not saying they necessarily deserve it, but they still have a huge game to win before we have that conversation.

Whiskey should be ranked way higher, imo.

I have to correct myself. There is a rule that regardless of BCS ranking, no three teams from one conference can be in BCS games. So it will just be UM and OSU even though UW will probably end up in the top eight. Poop.

I heard a stat this morning, and forgive me but I can't remember the exact numbers, but the teams that Wisco has beaten this year are like a combined 42-67 record-wise.

The teams that Rutgers has beaten are something like two games over .500

I know that doesn't mean anything, but it's interesting nonetheless.

The BCS takes two at large teams though. Notre Dame would take one if they win out, the other would be a champion from a non-bcs conference (if they are in the top 12 of the BCS rankings). Currently ND and Boise State would get in. If there are not 2 non-bcs/ND teams in the top 12, then they take additional BCS schools. Wisconson would have a chance if either Boise State or ND lose another game. Rutgers and WVU play each other, so the loser would fall below Wisconsin. If Florida or Arkansas loses (one will), they will also fall below Wisc.

The OSU/U of M winner would play in the title game, the loser goes to the Rose Bowl. Wisconsin would play either the Sugar, Fiesta or Orange bowl.

It's still possible if either Boise State or ND fall outside the top 12.

But assuming that OSU and UM stay in the BCS games and above UW, which I think they will, UW is automatically out regardless of their ranking due to the no three team rule.

There is no rule that says 3 teams cannot be in the BCS (at least one I saw). There are rules as to who has to be taken, not who cannot be taken. if ND or a WAC team (for example) isn't in the top 12, then the next best BCS school is taken. Wisconsin could be that team, unless the rule you talk about exists. If so, I'd like to see it. i don't see how they could have that rule. What if U of M and OSU end up in the title game (unlikely, but possible)? The Rose Bowl takes the Big Ten Champ and Pac Ten champs, unless they are in the Title game. Who are they going to take if U of M and OSU play for the title? The Florida/Arkansas loser? ND? Boise? WVU?

I just read the rules again on the BCS website and I don't see a rule like that. It would be hard for Wisconsin to get in though because Boise or ND would have to be ranked outside the top 12. They'd also have to finish above the Florida/Arkansas loser (shouldn't be a problem). I think it could happen, but I'm not %100 sure.

BTW, this is the senario for a rematch of U of M and OSU, just as a FYI:


BCS No. 3 USC loses to California and/or UCLA and beats BCS No. 5 Notre Dame. Both the Trojans and Irish are out. If Notre Dame gets by USC, would the Irish deserve a rematch against the Wolverines (if they win) after getting blasted earlier in the year, or would anyone put the Irish in over Michigan if Ohio State wins? It might be a tough sell.
No. 4 Florida loses the SEC championship game.
No. 6 Rutgers loses at West Virginia
No. 7 Arkansas loses to LSU, but beats Florida in the SEC championship game.
No. 8 West Virginia beats Rutgers, but doesn't win in a blowout. The voters don't move the Mountaineers past the Michigan-Ohio State loser.
No. 9 Wisconsin and No. 10 Louisville each finish with one loss, but aren't even close in the human polls. No. 12 Boise State either loses at Nevada or tops out in the human polls at around five.

http://www.tellshowbcs.com/FAQ.html

Almost at the bottom, under 'Notes':

2. Only two teams from a conference may participate in BCS bowls regardless of eligibility.


As far as the OSU/UM rematch, damn thats a lot to happen.

It seemed like even more a week ago, then 1/3 of the equation all happened in one week. Lousiville lost, Texas lost, Florida almost lost, Auburn lost, Cal lost, Tennessee lost, etc.
It gets crazy this time of year.
While it's unlikely ALL of that would happen, it's a guarantee that SOME of it will.

http://www.tellshowbcs.com/FAQ.html

Almost at the bottom, under 'Notes':

2. Only two teams from a conference may participate in BCS bowls regardless of eligibility.


As far as the OSU/UM rematch, damn thats a lot to happen.

thanks for finding that. I thought it would be pretty crazy to end up with 3 teams in there but I couldn't find that rule.