Area man charged with bestiality
Tuesday, October 24, 2006
By TIM YOUNKMAN
TIMES WRITER

A 44-year-old Saginaw man remains jailed today on charges of bestiality after he was seen engaged in sexual acts with a dead dog, Michigan State Police troopers said.

Ronald Kuch was arrested after police searched the area of Midland and Carter roads Friday for a man who ran away from a Bay County Animal Control officer. The entire incident was within view of a nearby day care center.

At his arraignment on Monday, Kuch demanded a preliminary examination in Bay County District Court. District Judge Craig Alston ordered him to remain jailed in lieu of $500,000 bond pending a hearing on the evidence Nov. 6.
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Kuch is charged with crimes against nature and assaulting a law enforcement officer.

Troopers said a woman from the day care center called for animal control because there was a dead dog near the property that had been hit by a car several days earlier.

Before officers could arrive, the man showed up and began engaging in sexual acts with the dog, police said. The animal control officer also reported seeing Kuch involved in the sex act and as he approached him, Kuch shoved him away and ran off.

State troopers searched the area and found the man hiding in the attic of a nearby house.

Officers determined that the house belonged to the man's girlfriend and later learned that the dog, a black Labrador retriever, also belonged to the girlfriend. The dog had been dead for four or five days.

The official charge of crimes against nature carries a maximum penalty of 15 years in prison. If the person is a repeat offender, the maximum is life in prison.

http://www.mlive.com/news/bctimes/index.ssf?/base/news-8/116170304311310.xml&coll=4

eww.

Time to change my av again.

Where's giffman?

based on this article he could be under arrest.

Should we merge this thread with the "Dog obedience training" thread?

Who hasn't had sex with a dead dog?

As a Saginaw resident I'd like to point out that this was done in Bay County, not Saginaw.

That's the only defense I can think of. I'm going to go throw up now.

It had to be dead too. Id have to say that this is worse than the kid who raped his mom:

http://www.nbc-2.com/satellite/061101_rape.shtml

That's not how we roll. We normally just shoot people.

Hopefully, people who fuck dogs are top choices.

Kuch is charged with crimes against nature and assaulting a law enforcement officer.

Troopers said a woman from the day care center called for animal control because there was a dead dog near the property that had been hit by a car several days earlier.

After bestiality, dead, dog and day care I really thought it couldn't get any worse. Glad I read the whole thing.

alright, who rated this thread 1 out of 5 stars??

Don't worry... I countered it with a 5 star.

damnit, the poll has been tainted. i should've kept my mouth shut.

Depending on what the definition of is is, moose guy might have found a loophole for dog guy...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/17/dead_deer_case/


Wisconsin case hinges on definition of 'animal'

By Lester Haines
Published Friday 17th November 2006 16:20 GMT

The defence lawyer of a Wisconsin man charged with having sex with a dead deer is claiming he's innocent of any wrongdoing - because a "crimes against sexual morality" statute prohibits sex with animals, but fails to mention carcasses, The Duluth News Tribune reports.

Bryan James Hathaway, 20, of Superior, was arrested on "a misdemeanour charge of sexual gratification with an animal" after indulging in intercourse with said deceased deer on 11 October.

His attorney, public defender Fredric Anderson, last week filed a motion with a Douglas County court which argued "because the deer was dead, it was not considered an animal and the charge should be dismissed". He wrote: "The statute does not prohibit one from having sex with a carcass."

He further argued that, according to Webster's dictionary, an animal is "any of a kingdom of living beings". If you include carcasses in that definition, Anderson reasoned, "you really go down a slippery slope with absurd results".

Anderson demanded that a judge clarify "what the Legislature intended 'animal' to mean in the statute", insisting: "And the only clear point to draw the line in that definition, I believe, is the point of death."

Assistant district attorney James Boughner countered by saying that the court could indeed use a dictionary to determine the meaning of a word, but isn't obliged to do so. He told Judge Michael Lucci that "when a person's pet dog dies, the person still refers to the dog as his or her dog, not a carcass".

"It stays a dog for some time," Boughner added, noting that Hathaway himself had referred to the dead deer as exactly that, and not a carcass, when confronted by police.

Brougher concluded by stating the "statute was on punishing the human behaviour, not protecting animals".

"It does not seem to draw a line between the living and the dead," he noted. Interpreting the statue to exclude carcasses would, moreover, "also exclude freshly killed animals", Boughner insisted. This, in turn, "could lead to people who commit such acts with animals to kill them".

Boughner's latter point seems to be backed up by Hathaway's previous form, which saw him in April 2005 plead "no contest to one felony charge of mistreatment of an animal for the shooting death of Bambrick, a 26-year-old horse, to have sex with the animal".

Judge Lucci summed the matter up concisely with: "I'm a little surprised this issue hasn't been tackled before in another case." He then promised to render a decision before Hathaway's next court appearance on 1 December.

Hathaway faces a possible nine months' jail and a fine of up to $10,000 on the deer sex rap, but if convicted, "could serve a prison term of up to two years because of a previous conviction".

Depending on what the definition of is is, moose guy might have found a loophole for dog guy...
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Judge Lucci summed the matter up concisely with: "I'm a little surprised this issue hasn't been tackled before in another case."

So this is common but nobody thought of that defense? What is the world coming to? If youre that desperate, there are male sex toys you can buy and enjoy in the privacy of your own home.

That's why only poor people get caught doing this.

Well on another note, youre born with two hands lol.

Well on another note, youre born with two hands lol.

Maybe some people get tired of making love to their right and left? I guess I can't blame a guy for trying something new, I hope it worked for him...

I would say that yes, we do shoot people that get down on a canine corpse, but fortunately I don't think most of us know any. I know I shot all 3 of the guys I knew that did that crap.

I would say that yes, we do shoot people that get down on a canine corpse, but fortunately I don't think most of us know any. I know I shot all 3 of the guys I knew that did that crap.

One I can chalk up to coincidence. Three? Time to start keeping better company.

Guess I won't be chillin at the Dead Dog INN anymore...

Why does a Saginaw man lick a dead dog's balls? Because he can!