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Fool
10-19-2006, 11:16 PM
On TNT right now. Preseason Lakers/Clippers game.

Black Dynamite
10-20-2006, 12:37 AM
get the fuck outta here with this. booooooooo!!!!![smilie=blaha.gif]

Atticus771
10-20-2006, 01:23 AM
Someone swat this, please.

UxKa
10-20-2006, 02:25 AM
ewwwwwwww[smilie=sayitaintso:

Glenn
10-20-2006, 08:41 AM
I love how Fool relishes the antagonist role here (at least he got rid of that Fatoine sig).

I bet he's the type of guy that says things that starts fights when he's drunk.

What's next, a "Fun with Mo Evans Trades" thread?


Detroit Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Carlos Delfino
6-6 SG from Argentina (Foreign)
3.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 10.7 minutes
Amir Johnson
6-9 SF from Weschester (HS)
6.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 13.0 minutes

Incoming
Maurice Evans
6-5 SG from Texas
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 14.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: -5.3 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and -0.9 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Matt
10-20-2006, 10:29 AM
hmmm.....how about a fellow teammate video swat?

vCrvCbh26K8

welcome to the 21st century, bitches.

Glenn
10-20-2006, 10:32 AM
Anybody else concerned that Mo Evans may be reading this thread?

[smilie=peepwall.gi:

DennyMcLain
10-21-2006, 03:36 AM
27 points.

Black Dynamite
10-21-2006, 09:32 AM
27 points.
preseason.

but i did say he'd do better there than he'd ever do here.

DennyMcLain
10-22-2006, 11:55 AM
preseason.

but i did say he'd do better there than he'd ever do here.

Mo Evans for MVeP!!!! (Most Valuable ex Piston)

Black Dynamite
10-22-2006, 02:29 PM
ben has the spot locked down unless memo explodes into nuclear level play.

DennyMcLain
10-22-2006, 07:58 PM
ben has the spot locked down unless memo explodes into nuclear level play.

MoE > Darko?

Fool
10-26-2006, 10:38 AM
Alex Acker News

http://www.eurosport.com/basketball/euroleague/2006-2007/sport_sto993887.shtml
Group A - Olympiacos 97 TAU Ceramica 78


Former Detroit Pistons player Alex Acker made a spectacular Euroleague debut for Olympiacos as his 25 points and 13 rebounds helped the Greeks win this battle between two Final Four hopefuls.

The guard dictated proceedings throughout, with Henry Domercant (19 points) and Andrija Zizic (18 points, 7 rebounds) also coming up with big performances.

The match was much closer than the scoreline suggested though, with there still only being two points between the sides near the end of the third quarter.

However, Olympiacos blew the Basques away in the final quarter, with Acker's stunning performance seeing him being compared to Euroleague legend and now Toronto Raptor Anthony Parker.

"If Parker had started the Euroleague as well as Acker did tonight, he would have been playing in the NBA for three years already" said Olympiacos coach Pinhas Gershon.

"If Acker continues playing at this level, then yes, he will do great things in the near future."

DennyMcLain
10-28-2006, 10:24 PM
EuroTrash doesn't count.

Get that shit outta here.

Sincerely,
[smilie=blaha.gif]

Hermy
11-01-2006, 07:04 AM
Great game.

Glenn
11-01-2006, 07:57 AM
This thread is vying for a goaltend.

MOLA1
11-01-2006, 08:48 AM
With people checking in on motherfuckers like Mateen Cleaves
and Mikki Moore, this should have never been swatted.

Fool
11-01-2006, 09:43 AM
I didn't stay up for this game. Can someone explain to me how the Suns lost to a Kobe-less Lakers?

Looks like a nice game by Odom, Bynum, and Phil Jackson (you telling me D'Antoni had an entire offseason to figure out how the Lakers out matched them in 3 games of the playoffs last year and couldn't do it?).

Did MoMo look good droping double figures?

MoTown
11-01-2006, 09:52 AM
I watched the first half and I was REALLY impressed by Bynum. I don't know how he was in the second half, but he certainly looked good in the beginning. He looks more athletic and stronger, with more finess in his game than last year.

In terms of Mo, I believe he was busy trying to tell Phil Jackson as to who was misbehaving in the locker room.

Black Dynamite
11-01-2006, 09:56 AM
In terms of Mo, I believe he was busy trying to tell Phil Jackson as to who was misbehaving in the locker room.
probally. screw this goal tend idea. we dont back snitches.

http://www.usocpressbox.org/usoc/pressbox.nsf/0/81122806d4061f1885256eef002e18dd/$FILE/Anthony,Carmelo.jpg
The "we don't back snitches" sentiment is endorsed by Carmello Anthony rub out the snitches foundation

Black Dynamite
11-01-2006, 10:25 AM
put your mo evans following garbage here.
[smilie=burgerking.:

Glenn
11-01-2006, 10:30 AM
http://www.firstbasesports.com/images/basketball_fig20.gif

Fool
11-01-2006, 10:36 AM
I bet he's the type of guy that says things that starts fights when he's drunk.


I throw money around when I'm drunk.

Glenn
11-01-2006, 10:39 AM
This Mo Evans thread is, um, blooming* at the right time.


*Source: http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/blossoming

DennyMcLain
11-01-2006, 10:42 AM
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/moEvans.jpg > http://radaronline.com/fresh-intelligence/robert-evans-inside.jpg http://www.aprilwinchell.com/this_week/jpg/robert_evans.jpghttp://www.aprilwinchell.com/this_week/jpg/robert_evans.jpg

MoTown
11-01-2006, 11:06 AM
Terrible call. I think this was a clean swat. Someone bring the replay up on this one.

Bullshit.

Black Dynamite
11-01-2006, 11:30 AM
Terrible call. I think this was a clean swat. Someone bring the replay up on this one.

Bullshit.
seconded

Fool
11-01-2006, 11:34 AM
I don't know, Gutz just resurrected an old thread asking to put the Mo watch stuff in there. That thread is only marginally related to this one. I'd say this thread has shown its worthiness and yall just hating on a playa showing his worth more than, the so far, Unexceptional Argentinian.

Comrade
11-01-2006, 12:06 PM
I don't know, Gutz just resurrected an old thread asking to put the Mo watch stuff in there. That thread is only marginally related to this one. I'd say this thread has shown its worthiness and yall just hating on a playa showing his worth more than, the so far, Unexceptional Argentinian.
It's really going to bum them out when it becomes obvious by the end of the year that Mo Evans is better than Carlos Delfino.

Glenn
11-01-2006, 12:11 PM
This thread is legit.

It discusses a current NBA player, one that happens to be a former Piston, for added relevance.

So watch this:
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Matt
11-01-2006, 01:37 PM
two for one bonus.......that was Smush Parker w/ the assist!

while i don't take offense to resurrecting my swatted thread.....i do take offense to TWO Mo Evans threads in the NBA forum. that's just wrong.

Black Dynamite
11-01-2006, 02:29 PM
It's really going to bum them out when it becomes obvious by the end of the year that Mo Evans is better than Carlos Delfino.
lol...and they are relevent to each other? I said awhile ago he'd do better in LA, thats not gonna make him better here. and delfino's future or lack there of has no bearing on that. Mo evans wasn't working here and delfino's fate is a separate matter. this isn't a ben/darko scenario. If anything its Mo vs Flip murray and Flip Murray>>>Mo Evans.:wink:

Hermy
11-01-2006, 03:34 PM
That may be Gutz' stupidest post to date.

Comrade
11-01-2006, 03:52 PM
lol...and they are relevent to each other? I said awhile ago he'd do better in LA, thats not gonna make him better here. and delfino's future or lack there of has no bearing on that. Mo evans wasn't working here and delfino's fate is a separate matter. this isn't a ben/darko scenario. If anything its Mo vs Flip murray and Flip Murray>>>Mo Evans.:wink: Considering one was basically shipped out to give the other one playing time, I'd say they're pretty relevant. The signing of Flip Murray only made the decision to move him worse, because Carlos Delfino apparently needs 75 minutes a game to get his shot going whereas Mo could come in for 4 or 5 and drop a three-pointer or 2 and a get rebound here and there.

Daviticus 2.39
11-01-2006, 04:06 PM
Please do not give Mo Evans compliments...

He's fucking horrible.

Comrade
11-01-2006, 04:07 PM
Please do not give Mo Evans compliments...

He's fucking horrible.
So is Carlos Delfino, and you'd need a crowbar to pry some of these guys off his nuts.

DennyMcLain
11-01-2006, 05:08 PM
Terrible call. I think this was a clean swat. Someone bring the replay up on this one.

Bullshit.


MoEvans is a great man. If I wasn't already married, I'd hit it.

b-diddy
11-01-2006, 05:41 PM
just another example of how joe doesnt put more than 2 minutes of thought into any move anymore. i think matt millen's dumbness is somehow infecting dumars.

Daviticus 2.39
11-01-2006, 05:48 PM
just another example of how joe doesnt put more than 2 minutes of thought into any move anymore. i think matt millen's dumbness is somehow infecting dumars.

How can you say that, it was quite obvious last year that Delfino was the far better player. He's just inconsistant and very streaky, those will come. The kid is 23 or 24 I forget which.

Mo Evans was flat out terrible many a time last year too, yet he got consistent playing time. If Delfino gets a consistent 15 MPG this team is far better off than Evans taking those same minutes.

Plus, the prospect we got for Evans, (Samb), looks very promising. He just needs to visit White Castle and Taco Bell everyday.

I'd also take Flip Murray who is basically replacing Evans, over Evans any day. I think Dumars did just fine, and please don't ever compare him to Matt Millen.

Matt
11-01-2006, 06:01 PM
i think (hope) that was sarcasm by b-diddy.

UberAlles
11-01-2006, 06:07 PM
So is Carlos Delfino, and you'd need a crowbar to pry some of these guys off his nuts.
No crap. So many people like Delfino for basically doing nothing.

He's a streaky (read: shitty) shooter, and he is inconsistent (read: shitty).

I'm coming up with that on any given night, he will either show some intangibles and generate a ho-hum statline or he will completely disappear.

For those of you keeping score at home, THIS IS OUR PRIMARY BACKUP FOR TAY.

Comrade
11-01-2006, 06:13 PM
How can you say that, it was quite obvious last year that Delfino was the far better player. He's just inconsistant and very streaky, those will come. The kid is 23 or 24 I forget which.

Mo Evans was flat out terrible many a time last year too, yet he got consistent playing time. If Delfino gets a consistent 15 MPG this team is far better off than Evans taking those same minutes.

Plus, the prospect we got for Evans, (Samb), looks very promising. He just needs to visit White Castle and Taco Bell everyday.

I'd also take Flip Murray who is basically replacing Evans, over Evans any day. I think Dumars did just fine, and please don't ever compare him to Matt Millen. LOL. How much alcohol did you consume before each and every Pistons game? You can argue that he looked better at times, but to say that was clearly the far better player is laughable. Your point about Murray is moot, because you want Delfino to get a solid 15 mpg's and if you think that's going to happen with Flip here you're drunker than I thought.

What has this guy done that has earned him so many fanboys? It clearly isn't his play, so it must be his attitude then. Whinning in Spanish and denying it in English must be a sure fire way to get some fans.

MOLA1
11-01-2006, 07:01 PM
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Black Dynamite
11-01-2006, 08:10 PM
Considering one was basically shipped out to give the other one playing time, I'd say they're pretty relevant. The signing of Flip Murray only made the decision to move him worse, because Carlos Delfino apparently needs 75 minutes a game to get his shot going whereas Mo could come in for 4 or 5 and drop a three-pointer or 2 and a get rebound here and there.
lol...he also fumbled atleast one pass and rebound out of bounds when he busted his way in. If you value what he did out there, more power to you. you're on crack if you expect me to buy into that as a being usefully unique ability wasted away. And for the record he played 14 minutes a game not 5 minutes. this guy would be vinny johnson if we let you tell it. and for the record delfino gave us 3.6 points per game in 10.7 minutes a night Mo gave us 5 points in 14.2 minutes. yes the difference is so vast i'm already dying about Mo being gone..:tongue2:


So is Carlos Delfino, and you'd need a crowbar to pry some of these guys off his nuts.
comrade just one time try to actually defend mo w/o throwing in delfino as an "excuse". Mo was mediocre and he's more suited in LA. just like devin george and rick fox were feeding off that with kobe and shaq in the same triangle. should we regret not grabbing them when they shook loose??

Man i'm not trynna stop you from hating delf honestly(he has alot to prove, and hasn't yet), but please stop using him as some sort of excuse to keep snitch boy. :inquisitive:

Comrade
11-01-2006, 09:19 PM
lol...he also fumbled atleast one pass and rebound out of bounds when he busted his way in. If you value what he did out there, more power to you. you're on crack if you expect me to buy into that as a being usefully unique ability wasted away. And for the record he played 14 minutes a game not 5 minutes. this guy would be vinny johnson if we let you tell it. and for the record delfino gave us 3.6 points per game in 10.7 minutes a night Mo gave us 5 points in 14.2 minutes. yes the difference is so vast i'm already dying about Mo being gone..:tongue2: Carlos Delfino's points per minute last year: 0.336
Maurice Evan: 0.352

You're right Gutz, Carlos Delfino is clearly the superior player. At the same pace he was last year, he'd score 4.7 PPG in the same amount as time as Mo. Nevermind the fact that Maurice did it shooting 5% better. But you cleared that right up. I don't think a Carlos Delfino fan should use a statline ever. That's like a blind man doing a police lineup.

I'm not trying to sell Mo Evans, I'm just stating a fact: Mo Evans is better than Carlos Delfino.


comrade just one time try to actually defend mo w/o throwing in delfino as an "excuse". Mo was mediocre and he's more suited in LA. just like devin george and rick fox were feeding off that with kobe and shaq in the same triangle. should we regret not grabbing them when they shook loose??

Man i'm not trynna stop you from hating delf honestly(he has alot to prove, and hasn't yet), but please stop using him as some sort of excuse to keep snitch boy. Excuse me? It was the people on this board using Delfino's lack of steady playing time (and thus Maurice Evans, who was getting it) as an excuse for his broken ass shot and general malaise. There are a ton of guys I'd rather have over Maurice Evans, but Carlos Delfino isn't one of them. Mo is mediocre, but Delfino sucks.

Black Dynamite
11-01-2006, 10:15 PM
You're right Gutz, Carlos Delfino is clearly the superior player.
i said that in my last post? or are you just reading what you want. dude just kill it. you're stuck something else that has nothing to do with this. and its a fucking waste of time to even discuss this with you. clearly all you hear is "mo evans sucks and delfino is god" no matter what is said. so enjoy your altered reality.


Excuse me? It was the people on this board using Delfino's lack of steady playing time (and thus Maurice Evans, who was getting it) as an excuse for his broken ass shot and general malaise. There are a ton of guys I'd rather have over Maurice Evans, but Carlos Delfino isn't one of them. Mo is mediocre, but Delfino sucks.
thats all well and good. but doesnt make him an excuse for mo evans. i'm sure you translate that to "mo evans sucks and delfino is god" so i'll say no more. :2thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Comrade
11-01-2006, 10:26 PM
i said that in my last post? or are you just reading what you want. dude just kill it. you're stuck something else that has nothing to do with this. and its a fucking waste of time to even discuss this with you. clearly all you hear is "mo evans sucks and delfino is god" no matter what is said. so enjoy your altered reality.


thats all well and good. but doesnt make him an excuse for mo evans. i'm sure you translate that to "mo evans sucks and delfino is god" so i'll say no more. :2thumbsup: :thumbsup:Waste of time? I don't give a shit who a person is, I want the players that help us win. And if you think that Carlos Delfino is more likely to do that than Mo Evans, then its you that's living in the altered reality.

I know that even if Mo goes a full 82 games averaging 15 points and 5 rebounds and Delfino shoots 18% you'll stay hate on Mo. You're probably the only poster here more stubborn than me, and that's why you're my favorite poster.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6470/moku1.png

WTFchris
11-02-2006, 10:20 AM
You guys are funny. This argument is like arguing whether you'd rather have a hot needle or battery acid in your eye. Both sucked last year. The only reason I'd pick Delfino over Evans is that Delfino has more potential. You know what Evans is.

Matt
11-02-2006, 10:24 AM
You guys are funny. This argument is like arguing whether you'd rather have a hot needle or battery acid in your eye. Both sucked last year. The only reason I'd pick Delfino over Evans is that Delfino has more potential. You know what Evans is.

that sums it up for me, too.

Daviticus 2.39
11-02-2006, 11:31 AM
Hold the phone John Hollinger's. Can we drop the fucking stats and points per minute shit.

Delfino obviously impacted the game greater on the defensive end last year, his shooting was sloppy, but he also moved the ball well and helped create a lot of fast break opportunities for us. Just because their statistics are comparable, does not mean their impact on the game is greater. For example, look at Tayshaun, we all hold him in very high regard with a very average 14 and 4 statline.

WTFchris
11-02-2006, 11:38 AM
Hold the phone John Hollinger's. Can we drop the fucking stats and points per minute shit.

Delfino obviously impacted the game greater on the defensive end last year, his shooting was sloppy, but he also moved the ball well and helped create a lot of fast break opportunities for us. Just because their statistics are comparable, does not mean their impact on the game is greater. For example, look at Tayshaun, we all hold him in very high regard with a very average 14 and 4 statline.

actually Evans and Delfino were pretty comparable. Delfino had a couple nice games defensively (the one on Paul Pierce comes to mind), but he also looked like he was hung over half the time. Prince always plays good D, even if he's not a big part of the offense.

I think Delfino has the potential to be a 6th man of the year if he played hard the whole time. Put Maxiell's hustle in his body and you've got something. Delfino has a more complete game, it just dissapears from time to time.

However, the production did not match the potential last year (or any year). I choose Delfino over Evans because it COULD match some day.

Uncle Mxy
11-02-2006, 11:51 AM
I'd also take Flip Murray who is basically replacing Evans, over Evans any day. I think Dumars did just fine, and please don't ever compare him to Matt Millen.
Unless you think FlipM at the 3 is a real option, he's not replacing MoEvans. [Edit: He replaced Tony Delk.]

The key is, would you take MoEvans over Ronald Dupree?

Everyone shits on MoEvans and forgets that it's Flip Saunders who matches him against LeBron and Kobe, Flip who thinks he'd make a good PF in the playoffs. And MoEvans makes 20-30% less than Flip Murray. Supposedly, he was a narc in the locker room, which at his level of talent outweighs whatever positives he might have brought, but it isn't as if JD doesn't have his another narc in the locker room in the form of Lindsey, so I'm not 100% buying that.

Daviticus 2.39
11-02-2006, 12:05 PM
actually Evans and Delfino were pretty comparable. Delfino had a couple nice games defensively (the one on Paul Pierce comes to mind), but he also looked like he was hung over half the time. Prince always plays good D, even if he's not a big part of the offense.

I think Delfino has the potential to be a 6th man of the year if he played hard the whole time. Put Maxiell's hustle in his body and you've got something. Delfino has a more complete game, it just dissapears from time to time.

However, the production did not match the potential last year (or any year). I choose Delfino over Evans because it COULD match some day.

I completely agree, we just need to stay patient with the kid and his consistancy will come with consistent minutes.

WTFchris
11-02-2006, 12:44 PM
Unless you think FlipM at the 3 is a real option, he's not replacing MoEvans.

The key is, would you take MoEvans over Ronald Dupree?

Everyone shits on MoEvans and forgets that it's Flip Saunders who matches him against LeBron and Kobe, Flip who thinks he'd make a good PF in the playoffs. And MoEvans makes 20-30% less than Flip Murray. Supposedly, he was a narc in the locker room, which at his level of talent outweighs whatever positives he might have brought, but it isn't as if JD doesn't have his another narc in the locker room in the form of Lindsey, so I'm not 100% buying that.
I'd take mo evans over dupree, yes. Dupree is just Evans minus the 3 point range. Mo Evans would have been great here if he was only used in a situational role and not as the primary backup swingman that he was. I think only Delfino has the skill set for that, but Flip didn't play him enough to develop because he was in a shooting slump. It's hard to be patient with a winning team, but sometimes you have to take a step back to take two forward. You can't simply bring RIP and Prince back in all the time because you'll never have the bench when you do need it most.

Mo Evans is better served to be in an offense with a guy who draws a double (in the post or off the drive) and kicks it to him. Too many times Evans shot threes off balence trying to create his own shot. Maybe he just didn't fit here, but he does have more to offer than Dupree.

Glenn
11-02-2006, 01:30 PM
I think Dupe's got better handles than Mo, but that's about it.

Comrade
11-02-2006, 11:01 PM
Hold the phone John Hollinger's. Can we drop the fucking stats and points per minute shit.

Delfino obviously impacted the game greater on the defensive end last year, his shooting was sloppy, but he also moved the ball well and helped create a lot of fast break opportunities for us. Just because their statistics are comparable, does not mean their impact on the game is greater. For example, look at Tayshaun, we all hold him in very high regard with a very average 14 and 4 statline.
Right after you hold the phone, Super Scout. We were simply discussing real, hard basketball evidence, not some random subjective bullshit you make up. I hate these motherfuckers who disregard stats so quick like they're some fucking basketball guru. How much are you getting paid to scout Dav? How many fucking championship teams have you scouted for? Exactly, so shut the fuck up.

Zekyl
11-03-2006, 06:07 PM
I think Dupe's got better handles than Mo, but that's about it.

Wait, wasn't SuperDupe a defensive guy when we got him as an undrafted fa? I don't really remember Mo having much of a defensive game.

Daviticus 2.39
11-03-2006, 11:50 PM
Right after you hold the phone, Super Scout. We were simply discussing real, hard basketball evidence, not some random subjective bullshit you make up. I hate these motherfuckers who disregard stats so quick like they're some fucking basketball guru. How much are you getting paid to scout Dav? How many fucking championship teams have you scouted for? Exactly, so shut the fuck up.

So this is how you respond in a debate? You can't come up with any shit better than to verbally attack me on a fucking message board. You're lame as shit son.

I don't even know you man, I have zero respect for your threats or opinions. So don't waste my time expressing them.

Comrade
11-04-2006, 12:21 AM
So this is how you respond in a debate? You can't come up with any shit better than to verbally attack me on a fucking message board. You're lame as shit son.

I don't even know you man, I have zero respect for your threats or opinions. So don't waste my time expressing them.Debate? You dismissed my post like you're some fucking NBA scout. You want some respect, then show it son.

DennyMcLain
11-04-2006, 02:41 AM
Daviticus and Comrade... to the Terrordome, please.

Laxation
11-04-2006, 06:26 AM
We were simply discussing real, hard basketball evidence, not some random subjective bullshit you make up.
You were giving per48min points stats... thats hardly the whole game that Evans or Delfino bring...

Got any defensive stats to show? I cant say I saw Delfino play much, but I will remember the game against New Jersey where he played against Carter, and every trip up the floor NJ would iso Carter against Delfino, only for Carter to brick the shot against good defence. Defence, last time I checked, is not random subjective bullshit.

Comrade
11-04-2006, 08:05 AM
You were giving per48min points stats... thats hardly the whole game that Evans or Delfino bring...

Got any defensive stats to show? I cant say I saw Delfino play much, but I will remember the game against New Jersey where he played against Carter, and every trip up the floor NJ would iso Carter against Delfino, only for Carter to brick the shot against good defence. Defence, last time I checked, is not random subjective bullshit.It wasn't per48min stats (it was per minute), but that's not even the point - I said nothing about a whole game. A single game against New Jersey (especially Wince Carter) isn't exactly their whole game either, but whatever. I also never said defense was some random subjective bullshit, just the way they use it. They just spout "he has better defense" and not a single example of it. They have no footage, no comparisons of Mo and Delf guarding the same player. It's subjective garbage. You want to come into a thread, act like some fucking pro level scout and dismiss stats, then bring some fucking evidence.

And there are plently of stats for defense, everything from Defensive Rating to Opponent Production to On/Off +/-. None are perfect, they're just another tool for teams and scouts to use to evaluate a player. As for the stats, according to basketball-reference.com Delfino has a defensive rating of 103 to Mo's 105. That's roughly how many points an opponent would score on them over 100 possessions. According to 82games.com (http://www.82games.com/0506/0506DET.HTM) Mo's opponent's had an average PER of 17.3, Delfino's had 19.2. Of course, Delfino could have just been guarding better players, or it could have been the fact that Delf was usually in the game with the second stringers and didn't have Ben Wallace in the middle to cover him. But like I said, they're not perfect.

I personally feel that Delfino is the better defender with more potential, but he's no brick wall like some of you seem to believe. I also feel that it doesn't matter like it used to in today's NBA - perimeter players are going to get chewed up by the Lebrons and the Wades either way.

Either way, I'm done with this thread (and probably the NBA forum in general). I could go to the Terrordome with every Delfino knobslobber on this board but it's just a huge waste of time.

Holla.
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Daviticus 2.39
11-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Debate? You dismissed my post like you're some fucking NBA scout. You want some respect, then show it son.

When did I say I wanted your respect?

I could give a damn what you think of me, I don't take people seriously who can't show support in their arguments and instead say things like HEY SUPER SCOUT! Shut the fuck up!

Creative... fucking creative.

Let's face it, you are a Delfino hater, and you just like to show a bunch of worthless statistics when most of those stats for Delfino came from garbage time where as Evans was in real game situations.

Come back with something a little bit more thought out when you respond to this post with another lame argument.

Comrade
11-04-2006, 04:20 PM
When did I say I wanted your respect?

I could give a damn what you think of me, I don't take people seriously who can't show support in their arguments and instead say things like HEY SUPER SCOUT! Shut the fuck up!

Creative... fucking creative.

Let's face it, you are a Delfino hater, and you just like to show a bunch of worthless statistics when most of those stats for Delfino came from garbage time where as Evans was in real game situations.

Come back with something a little bit more thought out when you respond to this post with another lame argument.LOL. And the Hollinger thing was so original too fuckface. Let's face it, you're a Delfino ballsucker. I gave a shit ton more support to my arugment then you have yet. What the fuck have you said other than he has better defense? What examples have you given to even back that shit up? Where is it you fucking hypocrite?

So keep talking you punkass motherfucking goon, and I'll put you down like a sick dog in Terrordome like the last 3 or 4 motherfuckers.

Fuck you, your respect, and your time.

JickBoy34
11-04-2006, 05:49 PM
good stuff boys...quality

Comrade
11-04-2006, 05:59 PM
Let's face it, you are a Delfino hater, and you just like to show a bunch of worthless statistics when most of those stats for Delfino came from garbage time where as Evans was in real game situations.

According to 82games.com (http://www.82games.com/0506/0506DET.HTM) Mo's opponent's had an average PER of 17.3, Delfino's had 19.2. Of course, Delfino could have just been guarding better players, or it could have been the fact that Delf was usually in the game with the second stringers and didn't have Ben Wallace in the middle to cover him.It's pretty clear this douchebarrel isn't even reading my posts. He just comes back after a few hours of sniffing Delfino's gym shorts and accuses me of the very things he's doing.

Vinny
11-04-2006, 07:54 PM
Mo Evans blows. I don't care if you love Delfino or hate him, Evans was a waste of space out there. That is all.

Black Dynamite
11-04-2006, 07:58 PM
I know that even if Mo goes a full 82 games averaging 15 points and 5 rebounds and Delfino shoots 18% you'll stay hate on Mo.
neither will happen. you're stuck in an extreme world. much like those espn winter x games snowboarders who get pissed when they get bumped to espn ocho for division 1-aa football. [smilie=paca.gif] If Mo does anything good in LA, I was right that the triangle was a perfect fit for him and a better fit than here. I thought the trade was win/win for both sides. If he stinks it up i was wrong and he actually does suck monkey balls no matter what the scenario. Either way i never went out on a limb like you have with the delfino vs mo whatever nostradamus pick of destiny. i'm just happy he's not here and happy that he found a home that fits him to prove he didn't fit here(all this time you keep figuring i want him to fail). i could care less who replaced him whether delfino, dupree, or flip murray. All 3 guys were preferred over him. If theres something wrong with that to the point of battling all weekend, then maybe you need a mirror to check whose balls are in your mouth. :inquisitive:

Comrade
11-04-2006, 08:03 PM
neither will happen. you're stuck in an extreme world. much like those espn winter x games snowboarders who get pissed when they get bumped to espn ocho for division 1-aa football. [smilie=paca.gif] If Mo does anything good in LA, I was right that the triangle was a perfect fit for him and a better fit than here. I thought the trade was win/win for both sides. If he stinks it up i was wrong and he actually does suck monkey balls no matter what the scenario. Either way i never went out on a limb like you have with the delfino vs mo whatever nostradamus pick of destiny. i'm just happy he's not here and happy that he found a home that fits him to prove he didn't fit here(all this time you keep figuring i want him to fail). i could care less who replaced him whether delfino, dupree, or flip murray. All 3 guys were preferred over him. If theres something wrong with that to the point of battling all weekend, then maybe you need a mirror to check whose balls are in your mouth. :inquisitive:I simply said Mo Evans is going to be better than Carlos Delfino. You asked how that is relevant, and I explained it. While I would need a mirror to check whose balls are in my mouth, you already know whose are in your mouth fanboy.

Black Dynamite
11-04-2006, 08:42 PM
call everybody you want a fanboy. you're the one trying to shove Mo will do better than delfino down people's throats. mask it as something else. but you took it to the "well ummmm, you guys are delfino nuthuggers so ummm ha" ...

Again Mo evans did nothing here, why is there an argument like we should regret anything he does in LA? should we regret not getting kobe and Phil Jackson too who are both a serious factor in his improved points? how is beefing with anyone who didnt think much of him not a waste a time since he was not a vital piece. I mean arroyo was more vital than him as was darko honestly. i dont get your efforts. and i really dont get your undying mission to paint all those who question your imaginary truth of of all truths word as "delfino fanboys". :inquisitive:

Black Dynamite
11-04-2006, 08:44 PM
Mo Evans blows. I don't care if you love Delfino or hate him, Evans was a waste of space out there. That is all.
another delfino fanboy. i tell ya, you guys are on delfino's jock. [smilie=blaha.gif]

dont like mo =love delfino. the eternal equation.:inquisitive: :huh:

Comrade
11-04-2006, 09:07 PM
call everybody you want a fanboy. you're the one trying to shove Mo will do better than delfino down people's throats. mask it as something else. but you took it to the "well ummmm, you guys are delfino nuthuggers so ummm ha" ...

Again Mo evans did nothing here, why is there an argument like we should regret anything he does in LA? should we regret not getting kobe and Phil Jackson too who are both a serious factor in his improved points? how is beefing with anyone who didnt think much of him not a waste a time since he was not a vital piece. I mean arroyo was more vital than him as was darko honestly. i dont get your efforts. and i really dont get your undying mission to paint all those who question your imaginary truth of of all truths word as "delfino fanboys". :inquisitive:I'm not trying to shove anything down anyone's throats. Don't read or respond to my posts if you don't like it. Simple as that.

Carlos Delfino hasn't did shit here either, and he's now playing where Mo did. We didn't have Kobe or Phil Jackson on our team, so I don't see your point. I never said anything about Arroyo or Darko either, so once again I don't see your point. All I said was that Evans is going to be better than Delfino. You asked how they were relevant. I explained. Dav came in (and he clearly is a fanboy, just read some of his posts "Carlos Delfino is clearly better!") like the strawman he is and got lit up. Either way, I'm done with this thread.

Hermy
11-05-2006, 12:33 PM
another delfino fanboy. i tell ya, you guys are on delfino's jock. [smilie=blaha.gif]

dont like mo =love delfino. the eternal equation.:inquisitive: :huh:

Untrue, I think both stink. No question Mo was better than fino, but both are garbage.

Daviticus 2.39
11-05-2006, 05:20 PM
LOL. And the Hollinger thing was so original too fuckface. Let's face it, you're a Delfino ballsucker. I gave a shit ton more support to my arugment then you have yet. What the fuck have you said other than he has better defense? What examples have you given to even back that shit up? Where is it you fucking hypocrite?

So keep talking you punkass motherfucking goon, and I'll put you down like a sick dog in Terrordome like the last 3 or 4 motherfuckers.

Fuck you, your respect, and your time.

Oh, you are going to put me down on a message board like a sick dog.

That's umm, intimidating...

Anything else?

JickBoy34
11-05-2006, 05:39 PM
I'll take Dupree over both, suck on that one bitches...

Zekyl
11-05-2006, 07:14 PM
Is anyone counting how many times Comrade has said he's leaving only to come back to defend himself again? I have nothing against him since I really don't know him. I was just curious.

Uncle Mxy
11-06-2006, 07:34 AM
Why isn't this shit in The Stands?

Black Dynamite
11-06-2006, 08:26 AM
Why isn't this shit in The Stands?
because delfino is so hot a topic that being compared to him gets you a goal tend?:huh: otherwise mo isn't really all that big a deal. good luck to him in LA, perfect fit for the kid.

Black Dynamite
02-11-2007, 11:09 PM
~bump~? :mccosky: do you miss Mo? does his performance in LA(a team he fits better than us imo) give you any pause on us trading him?

Delfino: 4.9ppg fg%.409 ft%.826 3pt%.337 rpg:3.2 mpg:15.8 Apg:1.1 PER:12.78
Evans:7.9ppg fg%.433 ft%.752 3pt%:.318 rpg:2.8 mpg:22.1 apg: 0.9 PER:11.29

at best they aren't that far apart based on what they do with their minutes, but delfino seems to do better in the hustle stats and looks like a better 3 point shooter. go figure.

ps: can we swat this thread now?

FP22
02-12-2007, 01:24 AM
~bump~? :mccosky: do you miss Mo? does his performance in LA(a team he fits better than us imo) give you any pause on us trading him?

Delfino: 4.9ppg fg%.409 ft%.826 3pt%.337 rpg:3.2 mpg:15.8 Apg:1.1 PER:12.78
Evans:7.9ppg fg%.433 ft%.752 3pt%:.318 rpg:2.8 mpg:22.1 apg: 0.9 PER:11.29

at best they aren't that far apart based on what they do with their minutes, but delfino seems to do better in the hustle stats and looks like a better 3 point shooter. go figure.

ps: can we swat this thread now?

Mo looked good today against the Cavs going 1-for-9 with 2 TOs.

Good post btw, but one stat you forgot...

Delfino: Defense
Evans: Defense?

Hermy
02-12-2007, 07:15 AM
I think it was ESPN where he is now nominated for sub of the year (along with Max) becasue of his defense. Maybe SI or SN. Anyway they were raving about him and calling him one of the top pickups of the year.

Wait, it was my ESPN the Magazine, the one with Dwight Howard on the cover.

Glenn
02-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Evans: PER:11.29

Hollinger must have caught Mo spying on him.

Zekyl
02-12-2007, 10:53 AM
Delfino gets us 3 less points per game, but that's with 6 less minutes. I think if he was getting 6 more minutes a game, he'd get us the extra 3 points, plus all of his other numbers would be up, even though they're already better than Mo's. I think with 6 more minutes a game, his shot would be dropping a little bit more, too. Not a lot, but I think he'd get into a better groove and he'd probably be about even with Mo's 43%

Glenn
02-27-2007, 12:34 PM
A career high?

If you don't know, you better axe somebody.

MoTown
02-27-2007, 12:43 PM
Bumping this thread just gets me swat-happy Glenn.

I'm still not over the fact that you called this a goaltend.