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Jethro34 10-01-2006, 09:43 AM This is the one game thread that just about everyone here has reason to post in.
What will happen this year?
5 quarters ago it looked like this could be a huge game, now it looks like it should be a relatively easy game.
Question marks for Michigan State:
WTF is happening?
What's the injury status of Ringer, Stanton?
Even if Stanton is healthy, should we be seeing Hoyer mixed in?
Will they make a blunder on a kick return this week?
Do they have any heart?
Questions for Michigan:
Can they learn from recent games and finish drives, play 60 minutes of defense?
Can they adjust to misdirection plays?
Will they be focused enough to not overlook the athleticism of the Spartans?
Will they fall into the trap of talking crap to emotional Spartans?
Even though the history says that bad Spartan teams have a way of taking this game to OT, it won't happen this year.
Michigan survives an early TD that makes it look like the Spartans are going to rebound, then proceeds to shut the door on Sparty.
Michigan 31
State 10
Loss #3 in a string of 5 consecutive for Sparty. (yup, Northwestern gets it done, too)
detroitsportscity 10-01-2006, 10:15 AM Ringer - Torn MCL - If true, great. It looked bad, MCL's are recoverable, ACL's, much harder, so I'll take it. Does mean he isn't playing.
Stanton - bruise, should be good.
I have lost nearly all hope now, and just want a good replacement.
I am wondering if we'll show up for some random game and look good, just messing with everyone's mind, and this(or OSU) would be the one. And Michigan seems to have more flaws than OSU, IMO.
DennyMcLain 10-01-2006, 10:35 AM For Tre's sake, I wish for a good game.
I also wish for a Michigan win, but not because I hate State. Michigan has a shot at the BCS, possibly a title shot if it can beat THE Ohio State University (I hate it when those homos say that in their NFL intros). They are the best chance at bringing a championship to the state.
Go Blue.
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Baker 10-01-2006, 05:13 PM http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/1774/imagezn4.jpg
wow, what retard came up with this copy shirt? The "whore" thing was created by MSU fans referring to "Ann Arbor." Pretty sure there was never a woman nor will there ever be a woman named "East Lansing."
Baker 10-01-2006, 05:28 PM [QUOTE=DennyMcLain]For Tre's sake, I wish for a good game.
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It's funny, I get mention anytime State loses or is struggling. There is a post calling for an official Tre suicide watch on the Illinois thread. There are a lot of Spartans here, but I usually get mentioned somehow. I guess I'm known as the biggest supporter, so I guess that's a good thing. However, it's okay fellas. I'll be alright. There is life outside of Spartan Sports for me. Thanks for the concern though haha.
With that being said, I'd love to come up with some sort of prediction here, but there is no way I can do it right now. I think the Stanton report is bogus. If his ribs were just bruised, he wouldn't have held his arm the way he did, and he wouldn't have sat out the 2nd MSU possession after he returned from the locker room.
The Ringer injury SUCKS. He was leading the Big Ten in yards per carry going into the game. 7.6 a carry!!!!! Sick! He is such a big part of that offense. Crushing loss.
Nobody seems to be mentioning the offensive line injuries. Anybody notice how many sacks MSU gave up. That never happens.
I'm excited about Hoyer for the future, but let's get real Jethro. You know and I know, you don't want Stanton out there for State. Every player goes through some struggles. It doesn't change the fact that he's a great player.
I can't make a prediction because I really don't believe the injury reports. I don't really know if I even want to make a prediction. I'd like to stand up like the loyal fan that I am and be the first believer that they can have a balls check and pull an amazing turn around, but how realistic is it? Maybe it will be more clear by Friday and I'll try to come up with something. I'll get ripped either way though. If I pick Michigan, FillyCheezeSteak will say I'm covering myself. If I pick State, I'll be called a homer. Maybe I'll let my cat make my prediction.
Meow=State win
Double Meow=UM win
Glenn 10-02-2006, 08:52 AM Weird shit seems to always happen in this game, and the best team doesn't always win (which is always true, but just seems moreso in this series).
That being said, UM rolls.
theMUHMEshow 10-02-2006, 10:57 AM This game is slated to be a joke...
Plenty of reason why I think so...
First, too many whispers of the players not caring AGAIN for the second straight year. They have played like typical MSU turds again and totally quit on the program.
Second, Drew is a mess. Kid was hurt going into Illinios and isnt going to be any better facing on of the fastest and most physical defenses in the nation. Drew is going to leave on a body bag if they play him and run him like they have the past two weeks.
Third, Ringer is out. That means either you slot in Jimmerson and let him roll against the UM D or you go solo with Jehuu. No matter what it hurts your offense big time. You lose your speed back and most effective runner and you lose the fact your quarterbacks running ability (unless you want him dead)
I dont really want to talk about the Um offense against the MSU D because there isnt anything to talk about...there isnt one player on the field that can stick with Manningham or Arrington. Jack Long is going to manhandle the D Line and when was the last time MSU ever stoped a UM tailback from going bonkers?
Add all that to the fact that the game is in the Big House and it doesnt look good.
HOWEVA!!!! It is a rivalry game...and this game is pretty much it for MSU, they lose and this and legend that is "drew stanton" goes down as a total joke and choke job. He needs this so lets see if he can muster up something and make this a battle
Moodini31 10-02-2006, 11:01 AM I pretty much agree with Muhme. (where you been playa?) I just don't see it being close again this year. It's time for another 49-3 fiasco. I just think State is sulking already and they're banged up and the Wolverines are special this season.
theMUHMEshow 10-02-2006, 11:07 AM I dont know where the hell I've been...lol...but its UM/MSU and this is the worst one yet, there is no hype. I am a little pissed.
MoTown 10-02-2006, 01:33 PM As much as I expect Michigan to win, they've played so well throughout the entire season that they're due for a slight letdown. My only hope is that letdown comes against Illinois/Ball State/Indiana, and not MSU/PSU/Iowa.
Prediction:
Michigan 31
State 21
Baker 10-02-2006, 10:03 PM I have never been so close to calling it quits as a fan as I was on Sat. As previously mentioned, I was a hair away from telling Moodini that I was done with Spartan Fball. Dead serious. You gotta understand where I'm coming from. I've been a die-hard since I was about 8 yrs old. I still remember Lorenzo White diving over the USC line into the endzone in the Rose Bowl. I was 8 years old at the time. Ever since then it has been nothing but disappointment.
Nearly every friend that I have is a die-hard UM fan and I've listened to them rip MSU Fball and crack jokes for about 20 yrs in addition to arrogant comments about their own program. Thus the reason I absolutely despise the University of Michigan. But, I've stayed loyal.
I planned on remaining quiet about this game and I was going to come here and pull a surprising prediction. I was going to show my faith in the darkest of times and predict victory for the Spartans. I figured, if DrTre doesn't believe in MSU, who the hell will?
I was thinking it over and I had my MSU-38 UM-24 prediction ready and waiting. That was until I got the news that Ringer is out for the season today. #1 in yards per carry in the BT and he's done. MSU needs him so bad for their option, for their misdirection plays, for their screens. He is going to be missed BIG TIME. As if the back to back losses weren't bad enough, another crushing blow. There goes my prediction.
b-diddy 10-02-2006, 10:49 PM i hope stanton plays, michigan needs to experience a mobile qb before osu.
Moodini31 10-03-2006, 12:35 PM I have never been so close to calling it quits as a fan as I was on Sat. As previously mentioned, I was a hair away from telling Moodini that I was done with Spartan Fball. Dead serious.
Actually you said, "If State loses this game, I'm done with Michigan State football." When they lost, you said "I'll think about it." I don't blame you, it would be super tough to disown your longtime boys.
Baker 10-03-2006, 04:15 PM I thought I said that it might be the final straw, regardless, the fact that I was that close speaks volumes about what it's like being a Spartan fball fan.
JickBoy34 10-03-2006, 06:49 PM Nearly every friend that I have is a die-hard UM fan and I've listened to them rip MSU Fball and crack jokes for about 20 yrs in addition to arrogant comments about their own program. Thus the reason I absolutely despise the University of Michigan. But, I've stayed loyal.
We as UM fans weren't inviting ya to join us anyways. You would have to root for Eastern. GO EAGLES GO BABY!
Baker 10-03-2006, 09:46 PM We as UM fans weren't inviting ya to join us anyways. You would have to root for Eastern. GO EAGLES GO BABY!
I just said I despise Michigan, what makes you think I'd want to join the UM faithful?
BTW, you'd be just as welcome in the Spartan Basketball Fraternity. (Even though you claimed to "feel" MSU Basketball after the 99 season) haha remember that? I gots a mind like a steel trap lol
JickBoy34 10-03-2006, 10:09 PM I did feel them...no doubt.
Moodini31 10-04-2006, 10:58 AM AHAHAHA! Jickboy, best sig ever![smilie=rofl.gif]
Moodini31 10-04-2006, 06:31 PM Anybody else thinking this game is not getting the hype that it usually does? Is it because none of the Sparties feel they have a shot or even care? Is the Tigers' playoff first playoff series since 1987 dominating everyone's focus? I came home from school today, I checked the Huge Show, 1130, and even 1050 (Ann Arbor) was breaking down the Tigers' loss to the Yanks and not discussing "The Civil War." This game needs some hype. It happens once a year, and we all know how much we say, "aaaaah, it's gonna be a blowout, I don't care", you know you don't want to lose to your arch-rival and hear about it for an entire year. I would much rather lose to Ohio State than Michigan State. We will all be glued to our TV's or bleacher seats at The Big House on Saturday. Everyone is going to be extremely tight on Saturday and will be freaking out during the game. I know I will be if Stanton marches down the field and Sparty goes up 7-0. Let's get some hype for this game playas. It doesn't get any bigger than this for me.
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It's the battle between GOOD and EVIL bitches!!!!
JickBoy34 10-04-2006, 06:43 PM DUCKETT BOY!!! FEEEEEL IT!!!
Baker 10-04-2006, 08:22 PM Alright Moodini, I'll give you some hype.
I am a big believer in good things happening to good people. 4 yrs ago MSU didn't have good people in their program. Knott was having sex with 13 yr olds. Smoker was on coke, Rogers-weed. The result: The most embarrassing season in MSU history capped off with a 3-49 game against UM. The Spartans deserved it.
The Spartans are not a bunch of thugs anymore. Any player attempting to cause problems is out. (ex. Tinney 4 star CB) Say what you want about Smith as a coach (ill probably agree), but he's a good guy. He's been ripped for 2 yrs all the while his wife was believed to be dying from cancer. He's never complained, whined, or made excuses. Stanton is the same. He has faith and never misses a Sunday at church. Spends his off days talking to youth groups about working for your goals. There are plenty more like him on the team. Since Smith, the bad people have been removed almost instantly.
That's why I just can't believe that this group (most notably Smith and Stanton) will not find success. I just believe that things will work out for people with faith and people that do good things. It's funny, I felt the same way about the MSU bball seniors two years ago (anderson, hill, torbert, bograkos). I kept reading all the things they were doing off the court and couldn't believe nothing but disappointment was going their way. That is until they beat Duke and Kentucky capping off their career with a Final Four.
I'm not saying MSU will end up in the Rose Bowl. I'm not saying UM players don't deserve great things too. I'm just saying I can't believe good guys can end up with nothing but careers of disappointment as a result of their hard work and good deeds. Therefore, with the rest of the country laughing at MSU's program, not a soul in the state giving them a chance. I'm standing up for my boys. Nothing points to MSU victory. 2nd best player on the team-out. Offensive line-injuries galore. Stanton-hurt. Smith-seat on fire.
I'm keeping the faith, not in MSU football, but in good things working out for good people. Here is my prediction:
THE SPARTANS SHOCK EVERYONE. Drew Stanton is going to march his team into the Big House for the final time. He will have one of the greatest performances of his career. He is going to lead his team to victory and end Michigan's National Championship hopes. Wolverine fans all over the state will forever shy away from the name Stanton like they shy away from the name Burress.
The Spartans will win.
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"They will remember your name."
Moodini31 10-04-2006, 08:37 PM And you're not going to watch the game right Tre? [smilie=sarcastic.g: A week ago you were "done with Michigan State football", and now you're calling for a Spartan revival. Don't do it to yourself anymore playa.[smilie=fingernono.:
Baker 10-05-2006, 09:01 AM You confuse the crap out of me Moodini. You wanted hype so I gave it to ya. Then you try putting words in my mouth making me sound like a flip flopper (much like when you tried claiming I predicted MSU over ND when I didn't). I thought you'd appreciate the post. Then I talk to you on the phone and you tell me that you feel my post. I'm confused.
I did not say I was done with MSU Football. I did say I was as close as I've ever been to being done. I said I wouldn't watch IF I decided to be done with them. All in or all out.
After the Illini game, you asked, "I thought you said you were done if they lost?" I didn't feel like disagreeing and having an akward "yes you did" "no i didn't" moment, so I just let it roll. But, during the game I made sure to always say, "This MIGHT be it." I knew I wasn't in a state to make bold decisions. And I explained that during pool. I think you remember.
Regardless, you ask for hype, I provide a bit, and then you post like you don't feel it. I don't get it.
Baker 10-05-2006, 10:46 AM I think I'm a little riled up already haha.
Moodini31 10-05-2006, 04:16 PM Definitely felt the post Tre, loved the hype, I was just trying to figure out what was going on with your stance on MSU football. Almost being done forever to predicting a win vs. UM was craziness. Good to see that the old Tre is back.[smilie=thumbsup.gi:
Baker 10-05-2006, 04:54 PM Well, like I said: All in or all out.
I wasn't going to become some fence fan. If I'm going to support em, it's going to be full out as always.
Jethro34 10-05-2006, 04:59 PM Ok, someone needs to save Tre's post where he predicts the Spartans will win. I don't want to see him edit it and claim that for the 115th time we put words in his mouth.
This time it will be for real.
And he won't be able to claim that the Spartan loss was the result of 40 foul calls either.
No excuses. None. He knows going into the game that Ringer is out. He knows going into the game that John L. is a lunatic (and perhaps the best and worst thing happening to the program all at the same time). He knows going in that the O-Line he jocks so much is dinged. He knows going in that Stanton is in his usual form, dinged. He knows that his team would lose to Eastern the way they've played the last 5 quarters (I would argue that they were outplayed in the 3rd against Notre Dame as well, along with half of the Pitt game, meaning they've been IFFY at best for 8 of their last 12 quarters).
So, knowing ALL that he picked State, clear as day, at the bottom of his post. No backing down. It's out there.
He has nothing to lose. If State wins, he gets all the glory for the bold prediction. If State loses, he was simply wrong and one step closer to being DONE with Michigan State for 8 months of the year.
Jethro34 10-05-2006, 08:05 PM There's also the game beyond the game here that's huge!
This weekend could be one of the biggest combined football and basketball recruiting weekends Michigan has had in a while. They need an impressive performance.
Baker 10-05-2006, 10:59 PM I'll leave the excuse making to you. You and your valient leader are so good at it.
I made my prediction and I stand by it.
Tahoe 10-05-2006, 11:57 PM My guess is that UofM plays all 4 quarters this week, unlike the Gopher game. If so, it ain't gonna be a fun ride back for the Sparties.
Jethro34 10-06-2006, 06:52 AM We're good at it?
"Stanton was awesome until he hurt his thumb"
"Those were the worst refs I've ever seen"
Sound familiar? Just a couple of your most recent Michigan State excuses, but that's right - you forget about those completely and focus on the excuses that the better school comes up with. Nice jealousy.
Baker 10-06-2006, 09:46 AM We're good at it?
"Stanton was awesome until he hurt his thumb"
"Those were the worst refs I've ever seen"
Sound familiar? Just a couple of your most recent Michigan State excuses, but that's right - you forget about those completely and focus on the excuses that the better school comes up with. Nice jealousy.
Hurt thumb? No, broken thumb on throwing hand. thanks.
47 fouls and UM wins by three, even fouls and State wins by 20.
Yes, I remember those.
I wouldn't try to compare excuses if I was you though. You will get destroyed in that arguement. I can name 10 Jethro excuses for every 1 of mine that you list. As a matter of fact, I don't know that a Michigan loss has ever occured without you providing an excuse. Your freaking avatar (sunbelt) was a displayed excuse for nearly 6 months! haha Don't even try comparing. Even the Michigan fans here know you are the excuse king.
"My school is better. You are jealous." nah nah nuh nah nah What's next Jethro? Our colors are better?! Or how about U of M rules and MSU drools? Is this WTF or my 4th grade classroom?
I'll skip over the fact that your last paragraph while elementary, is another example of U of M fan arrogance. I sure hope I never sound like that.
SpartyNick 10-06-2006, 12:15 PM Time to sink or swim....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ-juJqjDe8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWoPEU3RwPw
Spartans put up a fight...
Michigan - 31
MSU - 24
Moodini31 10-06-2006, 06:08 PM Nick,
That Spartan movie looks sweet as hell, but I won't be watching. It seriously looks like one of the tightest movies ever, but it would bug me the whole time I was watching it.
Moodini31 10-06-2006, 06:27 PM Alright, this is it. It's prediction time.
This game scares me for 2 reasons. It's now become a one game season for Michigan State. I think MSU will be supremely focused (if that's possible) and MSU's seniors have never beaten Michigan and this is their last shot. They will bring everything they got. The second reason is, even though it's a rivalry game, I hope Michigan does not overlook MSU. It's much easier to mentally gear up for Mike Tyson in his prime than Pee-Wee Herman.
With all of that said, Sparty will give U-M their best shot, but the Wolverines will be ready. In the famous words of Lee Corso, the game will be "closer than the experts think", but Michigan will be victorious.
In-game predictions-
1. Stanton will play, and will play well, passing for 250+ and 2 scores.
2. Caulcrick will be shut down by Michigan's dominant front 7 and will be held less than 50 yards. Jimmerson will bust a 15+ yard run or 2.
3. The Spartans will not be able to slow Mike Hart and the Michigan ground attack. Hart will rush for 150+ and 2 scores.
4. Manningham and Adrian "AA" Arrington will torch the MSU secondary. Manningham goes over 100 yards for the 4th straight came and grabs his 8th TD on the year. Arrington goes for 50+ and a TD.
5. Steve Breaston will bust a 40+ yard punt return and kick return to give U-M the edge in the special teams game.
I think State starts strong in this game, jumping out to a 10-0 lead, but the Wolverines roar back led by Hart on the ground and Manningham in the play-action game. Michigan's defense locks down the run game and Stanton is forced to do it all, but is unsuccessful.
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Michigan-34
MSU-24
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The curse of Spartan Bob continues..........
DennyMcLain 10-06-2006, 08:30 PM This game scares me for 2 reasons. It's now become a one game season for Michigan State. I think MSU will be supremely focused (if that's possible) and MSU's seniors have never beaten Michigan and this is their last shot. They will bring everything they got. The second reason is, even though it's a rivalry game, I hope Michigan does not overlook MSU. It's much easier to mentally gear up for Mike Tyson in his prime than Pee-Wee Herman.
Reason 3: "DrTre SuicideWatch 2006" will become "DrTre Memorial Service" if State has a shot and blows it. Either State wins, or loses huge, DrTre lives to see another game.
Jethro34 10-06-2006, 10:01 PM Dude, our colors ARE better. Compare how often YOU wear blue and gold to how often I wear green and white. No comparison. You feel it. Tom Izzo feels it, that's why he shook my hand, TWICE!
As far as excuses, keep in mind that the national media backed me up on the ONE excuse you gave, and the conference issued a formal apology and list of wrong calls, which heavily favors Michigan. I even heard a national crew THIS season talk about how Michigan really only lost 4 games last year, calling the Nebraska game a "joke" and a "gift to Nebraska". This wasn't Michigan people, it was national.
When your team has more talent than the other and one obviously controversial call decides the game, you can make excuses.
Baker 10-06-2006, 11:42 PM Nick,
That Spartan movie looks sweet as hell, but I won't be watching. It seriously looks like one of the tightest movies ever, but it would bug me the whole time I was watching it.
Moodini, you absolutely felt Troy. The basis for the movie is the Spartans from Sparta defeating the Trojans of Troy. You felt that! Give it a shot
Jethro, its funny that a crew of BT officials reviewed the clock situation on the Duckett play and ruled that it was stopped in time, but you didn't accept that. You still whine about it, and so does Moodini apparantly after his last post. But, media members criticize officiating in the Neb game and that seals the deal in your mind. Slightly biased approach. You capitalized "ONE" putting emphasis on me naming only one Jethro excuse. I actually stopped at 6 when I originally wrote the post and realized it was going to come off kindof jickish so I erased it.
Once again Denny is worried about me. Insert weirded out emoticon. Not sure why the attention all the time. Like I previously posted, State Football isn't my life. I'll be okay no matter the outcome. Thanks for the concern haha.
Moodini31 10-07-2006, 12:58 AM Yeah, I'm sure I'll check out that Spartan flick, but it's going to be tough for it to get a $$$$ rating from this cat.
And about that Duckett/Spartan Bob game, I'm not whining, I'm just saying MSU is cursed ever since that game. Michigan State has not beat Michigan since.
Jethro34 10-07-2006, 11:46 AM I still whine about that game? Are you serious? You're the one that complains more than anyone I've met in my life about people putting words in your mouth, so how do you respond? By joining the party.
I whined about that game for 2 years, true. If it had gone the other way, I guarantee a Sparty would have as well. But, as Mood pointed out, karma is a bitch. I simply joke about that game now.
By the way, I'm sure you loved Gameday recaping the recent games today, because THEY complained about the intereference no-call on Desmond. But I guess they were just being whiny Michigan fans, right?
JickBoy34 10-07-2006, 12:16 PM good stuff...
Baker 10-07-2006, 12:29 PM I still whine about that game? Are you serious? You're the one that complains more than anyone I've met in my life about people putting words in your mouth, so how do you respond? By joining the party.
I whined about that game for 2 years, true. If it had gone the other way, I guarantee a Sparty would have as well. But, as Mood pointed out, karma is a bitch. I simply joke about that game now.
By the way, I'm sure you loved Gameday recaping the recent games today, because THEY complained about the intereference no-call on Desmond. But I guess they were just being whiny Michigan fans, right?
You are making this too easy. It has been, what? Over a decade since the game and you are still mentioning/whining about contact with Desmond's toe. LOL! I don't have to put words in your mouth. I've heard little comments or jokes several times over the last 2 years about the Duckett play. And after about 15 years you are still whining about a loss to Michigan State! Absolutley hilarious.
JickBoy34 10-07-2006, 12:49 PM UM 31
MSU 23
I had a dream...
what a great sports weekend........
Umich: 35
MSU: 21
Baker 10-07-2006, 02:50 PM UM 31
MSU 23
I had a dream...
Me too. It was so tight. State had a return for a td and Nehemiah Warrick returned a pick for a TD. Stanton struck gold for the third score. It was amazing. Then I freaking woke up and I was pissed. The dream was soo good, I just wish one of these damn dreams would become reality soon. haha
Baker 10-07-2006, 04:59 PM Arrington just "scored a TD." Absolute garbage. Both shoulders hit out of bounds first, clearly no TD. NO REVIEW FROM THE BOOTH! John L. should have challenged it, but why should he have to.
Also, no review on Scott's first down catch. Definatley don't need any help from the officiating. ridiculous
Baker 10-07-2006, 06:30 PM Well, looks like the first TD won't matter. This is just a drubbing. Manningham just scored again. First time I really completely felt that John L. should be done. Not because they are going to lose, but because this is just one giant mental error. Every single play that MSU has had an opportunity to make, they've blown it or they've ruined it with penalties. The special teams coach should be fired after the game, because he is just horrible.
It's like 24-0 now. I'll eat my words, I tried to rally the troops. At least I stuck with my boys when nobody would. This is bad when DocTre is chillin while MSU is playing UM. Way too immune to this.
Congrats to the blue boys
Baker 10-07-2006, 07:23 PM I guess I'll make my 100th post of the day. haha
I did forget to give Michigan props on the last post. I'm not an ignorant fan. Michigan played very well. Props
This is in no way whining or excuse making because it wouldn't have made a difference, just a comment. But, these officials have been BRUTAL!!!!!!!!!! They are currently reviewing Stanton's 2nd rushing touchdown of the possession, however...they did not review AA's td. It's really bad. It doesn't matter at all because Michigan is dominating, but i just don't understand at least 8 calls in this contest.
Jethro34 10-07-2006, 07:39 PM Good sportsmanship to show up afterward. I'll give ya props for that.
And by the way, next year I'll mention that you brought up the officiating, even though you said it wasn't whining. Just warning you. lol
Baker 10-07-2006, 07:56 PM haha, it was just a passing comment. Wasn't even really riled up about it.
MoTown 10-07-2006, 08:36 PM Tre is right, though. That wasn't a touchdown. That doesn't mean they wouldn't have scored on the next play, but that particular play was not a touchdown.
Good game by Michigan. They didn't play their best, but they played well.
Jethro34 10-07-2006, 10:10 PM I wasn't even referring to the TD comment. I was referring to the penalites comment. I agree that it wasn't a TD, but I would also point out that it was a great coaching move by Lloyd to hustle his guys out there for the PAT. JLS was way outcoached at that moment.
As for the penalties, it certainly did seem excessive at times by way of sheer volume. That's a LOT of penalties. However, having watched them all, I would disagree that 8 of them were potentially bad or nitpicky calls. I think penalties is a reflection of coaching as well.
Speaking of coaching, we've been saying that kick returns are a coaching matter, and State had been questionable there the previous two weeks. Then they start the game questionably today with a horrible return. Later in the game, on a punt return, he falls on one at the 4. Doesn't everyone and their sister know that you plant your heels at the 10?
Jethro34 10-07-2006, 10:12 PM Oh, one more thing. Jamar Adams is an idiot. State could have potnetially hung around a bit longer because of him. It was 4th down. You do not intercept the ball inside the 5 at that point. I understand you're fired up for the pick and the stat, but you knock the ball down and get the ball with much better field position. Stupid play, and with Michigan's offense EVERYONE knew it would be 3 runs and a punt. Had he knocked the ball down Michigan could have had some slightly less obvious play calls and maybe scored again.
Oh well, they won anyhow.
Jethro34 10-07-2006, 10:20 PM Ok, I'm still not done. I want to extend my 25% of meaningful sports takes for a minute.
So here's the extension -
This game would have been so much better from an excitement and quality game point of view had there not been injuries and suspensions.
Think about the game for a bit.
Now picture State with Kellen Freeman-Davis and Javon Ringer. Now keep Clifton Ryan and Trannon in for the final minutes, and help their O-Linemen and LB's that were nursing small injuries. If State had all that (and could have cut down on the stupid penalties) we might have had a competitive game. However, remove the tiny injuries that likely aren't a concern but kept Hart and Manningham out of the 4th quarter for the most part, and that gives them the advantage still.
I know you can't just eleiminate all that stuff, but I do think that if each team was at 100% there would have been more firepower and the game would have been more entertaining for the casual fan.
(on the other hand, I was glad it wasn't because I would have been too nervous to flip back and forth to the Tigers game during commercials)
Moodini31 10-08-2006, 10:14 PM I'll have a big long epic post on this game later, but to quickly sum it up, I knew Sparty was done the second that clown Demond Williams hesitated after receiving the kickoff in his own endzone and got tripped up at the 9 yard line. It was another dominant performance in all 3 phases of the game by the Wolverines, in what seems to be shaping up like a special season. It looks like a throwback to the Bobby Williams era for Sparty with the penalties and mental breakdowns.
5 in a row......the curse continues.....
theMUHMEshow 10-09-2006, 12:01 AM Bottom line is this...
Henne>Stanton
Hart>Ringer, Jehuu
Manningham>CRog, Plex errr Trannon, Love
Lloyd>JLS
Martin>Mason
Sims>Dhalman, Morgan
Moodini31 10-09-2006, 12:34 PM Good call Jehuu.
Caulcrick on facing U-M's defense-
"I'm not trying to talk trash, but I don't think it's much of a challenge, It's just like playing another game. I have faith in my offensive line, and I'm gonna go and do it."
Baker 10-09-2006, 10:19 PM Bottom line is this...
Henne>Stanton
Hart>Ringer, Jehuu
Manningham>CRog, Plex errr Trannon, Love
Lloyd>JLS
Martin>Mason
Sims>Dhalman, Morgan
Muhme, I started to get more and more respect for you over the last few months, but this past week you've sounded ridiculous on several occasions. This post being one of them. This entire post is retarded, seriously.
First of all, Ringer is a sophmore, BT Freshman of the year, did not play in this game and was currently leading the BT in yards per carry. So why the hell are you posting Hart>Ringer? I don't think you should even be comparing them, but if you are I could argue 7.8 yds a carry.
Manningham>CRog, Plax ???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm fucking laughing my ass off right now. Charles Rogers was the wide receiver of the year as a junior, he set the NCAA record for consecutive games with a TD catch (14), and made possibly the greatest catch in NCAA history (and Moodini says that) and he did so with half a year of a coked out QB and a half a year with a backup and WITH BROKEN RIBS. Manningham will never earn himself the #2 pick in the NFL Draft playing on a pathetic team like Rogers did.
And don't ever compare Manningham to Plaxico Burress. That's where you'll set me off Big Time! Manningham is freaking great. But, Plaxico Burress dropped 255 yards on Michigan. Yes, 255 freaking yards. All the props in the world to Manningham, but he has a waaaaaaaaaaaays to go before he reaches Burress level.
Did you really compare AD's? Wow.
Okay, why the hell did you throw bball in there? But, now that you have...you are a clown. Raymar Morgan will accomplish TWICE as much as Sims. Mark that shit down right now. And if you want to go in that skewed direction:
Lucas, Allen, Summers, Morgan, Lucious>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Legion, Sims
I really question someone with your tainted overly biased point of view having a job covering teams in our area. Aren't you supposed to be the most objective one here?
Baker 10-09-2006, 10:53 PM BTW, in regards to Manningham. If you check the Big Ten 06 thread. DocTre is the only person Wolverine or Spartan to declare Mario as a 1st Team All Big Ten Selection this year. It is not time to compare him to Spartan greats yet.
I really question someone with your tainted overly biased point of view having a job covering teams in our area. Aren't you supposed to be the most objective one here?
That's journalism. Muhme is going for radio talk show personality/host. Think Maury Povich, not Peter Jennings.
Moodini31 10-10-2006, 06:36 PM I know there was some talk here about whether or not Arrington's catch was a TD. Per the NCAA rule changes, as long as ANY PART of the body comes down in bounds it is considered a legal catch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/dhheaps/cap001Arringtoninbounds.jpg
Look at his left hand. The very next frame shows his hand bouncing up and his elbow hitting OOB, in otherwords his hand hit and then ricocheted upwards. IMO, it is further proof that his hand hit - it would not have ricocheted upwards if it had not made contact with the ground.
Very, very close. If Henne wouldn't have tried to throw it into the stands we wouldn't even be having this debate.
MoTown 10-11-2006, 08:48 AM I stand corrected. That looks to me like he's in. Good work, Mood.
Moodini31 10-11-2006, 10:54 AM I stand corrected. That looks to me like he's in. Good work, Mood.
Thank you, thank you very much.[smilie=wink2.gif]
That's an incredible act of awareness whether he made it or not.
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